A fun place to chat about hunter pets in the World of Warcraft.
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I recall TotalBiscuit being upset Blizz STILL hasn't done this yet after 3 expansions.Worba wrote:Separation is really the only solution. Until they do that, both are going to (continue to) be eachother's ball and chain.
For WoW's sake, I hope so.Worba wrote:If so, he was spot on.
Hopefully things will be different in Titan.
Some will just go after your pet to pull you out of camo.Jessibelle wrote:Not really. Arcane mages spam AB. Boomkins spam Moonfire. Warlocks? They got Hellfire. Those are instant.Worba wrote:Except the other classes you described make more use of non-instant spells e.g. which can be interrupted or disrupted somewhat. Yes we have aimed shot but that spec also has a daze built into two of its primary attacks, so that just leaves steady / cobra which A) we can already use while moving and B) are for sustained ranged combat anyway not close tight spots.
And as for camo - even when moving you still get "Untargetable by ranged attacks. Reducing the range at which enemy creatures will detect you", so it's great for the purpose I described. If it doesn't make you a rogue in PVP, well... it shouldn't.
More than anything else, alot of this stuff really just highlights (more and more) the fact that it is simply not possible for the wow engine to 100% simultaneously accommodate both PVP and PVE.
Camo has restrictions - again, it's not intended to make us ranged rogues.AdamSavage wrote:Some will just go after your pet to pull you out of camo.Jessibelle wrote:Not really. Arcane mages spam AB. Boomkins spam Moonfire. Warlocks? They got Hellfire. Those are instant.Worba wrote:Except the other classes you described make more use of non-instant spells e.g. which can be interrupted or disrupted somewhat. Yes we have aimed shot but that spec also has a daze built into two of its primary attacks, so that just leaves steady / cobra which A) we can already use while moving and B) are for sustained ranged combat anyway not close tight spots.
And as for camo - even when moving you still get "Untargetable by ranged attacks. Reducing the range at which enemy creatures will detect you", so it's great for the purpose I described. If it doesn't make you a rogue in PVP, well... it shouldn't.
More than anything else, alot of this stuff really just highlights (more and more) the fact that it is simply not possible for the wow engine to 100% simultaneously accommodate both PVP and PVE.
Case in point, makes Camo useless if it's not actually making us camo.Worba wrote:Yes, camo has restrictions - again, it's not intended to make us ranged rogues.
I've still had mobs aggro me while camo so thats hardly 100% foolproof help.Worba wrote:Yes ^
A spell doesn't have to be 10/10 to still be useful.
Gotta know the level's aggro range and not get too close? It DECREASES the aggro range, doesnt get rid of it. So you cant go kissing the mobs. Basically its useful for PvP/CC'ing in raids and dungeons/running past stuff in low level raids. Its not the best thing in the world. But its pretty damn useful.Jessibelle wrote:I've still had mobs aggro me while camo so thats hardly 100% foolproof help.Worba wrote:Yes ^
A spell doesn't have to be 10/10 to still be useful.
10/10 is better than 1/10.
Matter of opinion and apparently Camo has a bit of complaints so obviously something is wrong with it.Jadein92 wrote:Gotta know the level's aggro range and not get too close? It DECREASES the aggro range, doesnt get rid of it. So you cant go kissing the mobs. Basically its useful for PvP/CC'ing in raids and dungeons/running past stuff in low level raids. Its not the best thing in the world. But its pretty damn useful.Jessibelle wrote:I've still had mobs aggro me while camo so thats hardly 100% foolproof help.Worba wrote:Yes ^
A spell doesn't have to be 10/10 to still be useful.
10/10 is better than 1/10.
Just because someone says there's something wrong with it doesn't mean they don't know how to use it. It's wiser to assume they know something about the ability.Jadein92 wrote:There are complaints that healers spells cost too much mana. Doesnt mean that blizz is going up and fix it. Its a nice little extra thing we get. If you dont want to use it, alright. But know how to use it before you say there is something "wrong" with it.
It's usually still better that way so one doesn't sound rude, regardless of evidence or not.Worba wrote:Actually without supporting evidence it doesn't mean anything one way or the other.