So I am guessing ... Madexx and 4.1 PTR... no change? =/

[Pent]

So I am seeing all of these new changes (Hydras, etc..) and some changes being reverted (Rak'shiri, etc) in 4.1... all because of hunter feedback/gripes I am guessing.

And then I look at all of the hunter "talk" about Madexx in all of his forms, and how a lot of hunters (not just on this site, and not just me) are pretty much dumbfounded on why Madexx hasn't been tweaked to a point of not making anyone upset but making his camp just a tiny bit easier to deal with.

Like...

Retiring his NPC ID from the spawn table, because there is no reason at all for the brown one to spawn as a rare when the same exact color/skin is available if you jump a river in the same zone. Let the people who tamed him as brown keep him, but take his ID out of the random rotation.

Or... how about a more consistent spawn timer? Or even a more consistent way of knowing when or where a particular color will spawn?

Or... since it seems that Blizzard thought it was OK to make the brown Madexx skin a common skin why not make all Madexx skins common... Yeah.. I am sure that won't ruffle any feathers.

Blizzard could even put the different colors of Madexx spawning in different zones as rares.

I am happy that Blizzard/Noah has listened to so many hunters about certain pets/beasts, and I am sure that some of you who are/were adamant about Madexx not changing at all, but was fine with other pets changing, will still complain about "Madexx being just right".

I am sure some of you will say that Sambas or Karoma is a harder camp... but Sambas and Karoma only come in one color each.

And seriously... some of you saying things like "a rare is a rare for a reason" then saying that everyone would have Loque if he was easy to camp... The last time I checked everyone who REALLY wanted Loque had him... going by the amount of them on any server I jump onto... he isn't that rare. I have yet to see any rare pet that is really rare on a server... Sure, you might think that since you only know of two people that has <insert rare pet here> then it is really rare... but trust me... there are a lot of others who have whatever pet it is.

Rare spawns are meant to require more effort to get them.

How much effort is too much?

If you put in some time to actually do circles and camp any given beast/pet you'll get that pet sooner or later. It all depends on how much time you are willing to look for it. I/We am not only fighting the same problems that plague other hunters looking for certain rare beasts to tame... I am also fighting the randomness of which color Madexx is going to spawn the next time I see him.

You know what I think should change across the board? Spawn timers. I think every single rare beast that can be a pet should have a spawn timer of no more than 6 hours. It wouldn't upset me at all, and I don't think it would diminish any certain pet's rarity. So you camped for <insert pet name here> for 27 hours straight (or 9 weeks, 4 days, 14 hours and still going)... do you really want everyone who wants the same pet to have to go through the same thing you did? If things keep going the way they are going within the next 5 years your 27hr spawn timer on a pet will be 4 hours anyway.

One track mind? Yes.
Beating a dead horse? Yes.
Slaying the slain? Yes.
Will it ever stop? Yo, I don't know. Turn off the lights... *ahem*...

There will always be complainers about why something shouldn't change, and if it changes anyway they seem to quit complaining not too long afterwards... and then when the change is reverted everyone is happy again.... and if it never changes back the complainers forget about it anyways.

Noah, I implore you to do something....

Want more to read about the subject? http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic ... 833?page=1

If you're in pitch blackness all you can do is sit tight until your eyes get use to the dark... and hope they do.

I am not afraid of others saying that things should remain the same, I am afraid of others saying things should remain the same because they already have what they want out of it.... and nothing happens because of that.

If you are going to comment on this, please try to keep it civilized, and the forum posters out there that are afraid of agreeing with me (I know some of you do)... don't be... the admins aren't going to mute you for stating your opinions on it. So at least show some support or at least say that something should be changed.

Thanks.

[Ziarre]

I've got to agree. I didn't see a ton of browns, but I found 15 spawns before I finally saw one blue. One in four chance would be better than one in five for those still hunting.

[Lisaara]

It's madness.....I personally think Madexx shouldnt be a rare at all and be like a quest mob that spawns in different colors as he's killed an only takes 5 minutes to respawn.

[Jin]

But I remember one thing many people asked for when Blizzard asked for feedback was some ultra hyper hard pet to get for the insane people

In my opinion I think the way it works now with one common skin that everyone can get with no efforts and the rare ones where you have to spend some (or a lot of) effort to get the color you like is a very good idea. I think there should be both common and rare pets because we players want different things!

[Senna-Umbreon]

... Honestly, I can't say how tired I am of seeing this stupid 'NO MORE BROWN MADEXX!!' crap. I'm just freakin' SICK of it! *Facepalms*

But, I will put a little input on this so my post won't just be me b**ching about this... If ANYTHING should be changed.. It's the common mob. NOT Madexx. Give the common one a totally new look and keep Madexx spawning as brown. Or hell, just remove the common one completely!

[Loki]

Really, I think the current system is pretty good. With the common brown people can get the model easily, and although camping for a specific color is a pain, it's the only pet like this in the game, and it's not like all pets have this kind of mechanic. One thing I would change, however, is give him only one spawn point, because that way you won't miss a color when it spawns because some randomer kills him, and it should make the camp a bit less tedious. And yeah, removing brown from his spawn table or recoloring the brown common mob would be a good idea as well (though removing 1 color makes the other 4 easier to get so removing might be the best choice).

[Moonlost]

I actually quite like the randomess of what skin of Madexx you end up with. Really, I feel it adds to the charm of the pet and the fun of the tame. Although you know you're going to tame a giant scorpion of awesome, you're not quite sure what colour of awesome. Brown included. Call it destiny or karma.

With that said, I can see this being a pain for people who do have their hearts set on one single colour. So, perhaps a reduced spawn time to compensate? 4-6 hours seems fair.

[Jin]

Thinking of it yes it would be a good idea to pick the brown off the table, if you decide to go hunt/camp for one of the rare skins you shouldn't end up with the common I think.

[Luinn]

Maybe if the spawn point(s) was just moved to a more out-of-the-way place?

The biggest problem I had with my Madexx hunts was other people killing him because he is in such a high-traffic area. I think it's human nature to kill a rare scorpion the size of a small house, especially if it happens to spawn right on top of you. Moving the spawn point(s) to a less-traveled location would remove some of that temptation.

So far as the colors go, I like the idea of making the common scorpids in Uldum a totally different color. Then we hunters have yet another color choice.
(A brilliant purple would be nice...)

[Griffley]

Maddex is fine as he is imo,
The effort it takes to get your favorite color makes it all the more special.

[Ijomi]

I love my Bronze, even though he has a bajillion common doubles. However, I have to say I'm rather bemused and disappointed by all the requests to take Bronze from the table. Deny those that already have him and DO care their much-camped scorpid is "rare" their bling? Hypocrisy much?

[Royi]

Or hell, just remove the common one completely!

I agree! Theres one brown Scorpion out on the west that has attacked me at least 3 different times while I go on my mining routes! He camps near Elementium Ore on purpose just to lure me out to attack!

Sure I get a restraining order, but do the Ramkahen authorities do anything about it??? NooooOooo.

You'd figure after helping smash thousands of Thieving Pygmies for them they would help somewhat... Jerks.

You know what, I hate those camel mounts anyways!

[wildstormz]

I agree Bronze would be so annoying as we now got common Bronze. I dont see why Blizz didn't take the effort to take Bronze out of it! They also could of got a new Color Scorpid like Purple, Yellow Or even ( Rainbow ) Mix of colors couldn't,t be too bad.




And No offense Blizz should seriously put the Spawn timer to 4-8hours spawn not something like 12-48 hours.

Why because there too many people go omg that's a (Rare) lets kill it might drop something awesome...

It just not fun see it getting killed all the time. I really think it should be move somewhere else to spawn.

And where it is now every1 quest there and it just keep getting killed over and over...

[Pent]

I love my Bronze, even though he has a bajillion common doubles. However, I have to say I'm rather bemused and disappointed by all the requests to take Bronze from the table. Deny those that already have him and DO care their much-camped scorpid is "rare" their bling? Hypocrisy much?

You do realize that if they remove the brown Madexx from the spawn table and retire his ID... your brown Madexx will be even more "special".

Hypocrisy ; hy·poc·ri·sy [hi-pok-ruh-see]
–noun, plural -sies.
1. a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess.
2. a pretense of having some desirable or publicly approved attitude.
3. an act or instance of hypocrisy.

Now in what regard was a being a hypocrite? Seeing as there are other people who believe the same way I do about the Madexx dilemma.

[Pent]

Maddex is fine as he is imo,
The effort it takes to get your favorite color makes it all the more special.

I will guarantee you that when and if I get the Green Madexx he won't be anymore special than any other pet I have... and I didn't have to camp 9+ weeks for any of them.

When I say camp I mean camp... I don't mean "Oh, I'll log on once in awhile and have a look."

Like said in the original post... the only people that seem to want to keep everything the way it is are the ones who have nothing to lose because they have what they want.

How come so many others think that everyone should have to camp for weeks to get a pet they want. If I can be called a hypocrite then I should be allowed to call some hunters greedy, IMO.

This isn't all about me. Sometimes it takes one person to open up the eyes of a company to what others are also seeing as being stupid. Not everyone, but some... evidently it only takes some to complain enough to get things fixed and I don't even have to list examples... there are many other threads everywhere about people complaining about something cosmetic and sometimes that is enough for Blizzard to react.

[Vephriel]

I honestly am a fan of what they did with the Madexx colour spawns, it was such a creative idea. I realize not everyone enjoys camping a rare pet, and I'm certainly not disregarding that. I know my personal feelings on Madexx are that he's a fun challenge with a hint of surprise that's never been seen before with a rare, and I do enjoy that.

Madexx is a very unique case, the first inclusion of a multi-coloured rare. It's something new, fresh. I was impressed by the idea and thought it was a clever way to implement all of the colours of the new scorpid model in a challenging way.

I completely understand being frustrated when the colour you want does not spawn, but Madexx is just a single mob that they decided to do this with. Perhaps they won't try this sort of spawn method ever again if they considered it a failure or to be too aggravating, but it was simply a new idea. I'd rather see more creative ideas concerning rare spawns in the future. Some may work better than others, but at least they're trying new things.

[Royi]

Maddex is fine as he is imo,
The effort it takes to get your favorite color makes it all the more special.

I will guarantee you that when and if I get the Green Madexx he won't be anymore special than any other pet I have... and I didn't have to camp 9+ weeks for any of them.

Why are you spending 9+ weeks camping a pet you dont even care about? I don't think thats Blizzards fault.

Anyways its just pixels when it comes down to it. color=#008000 is really not that much different than color=#0000FF

I honestly don't know why you wouldn't treat a Green Madexx as the holy grail of pets after seeing your numerous threads and multiple posts all regarding your camping experiences on this Green Madexx Pent. That completely baffles me.

[zedxrgal]

Veph has a excellent point and I agree.

I also don't feel there's a "dilemma" with Madexx. It's either going to be brown /bronze rare and common skin or Blizzard will remove it from the rotation. No big dilemma there. What will be will be. And honestly getting the luck of the draw, to me, is exciting. I wasn't picky and didn't care what color spawned I just wanted Madexx.

If you want Madexx himself then what color he spawns shouldn't matter. As I said before and I'm saying it again be thankful you (no one directly) spotted him so many without interruption from anyone. Myself and many many others weren't even remotely as lucky and that's with camping hours upon hours.

Give Blizz some time to see what they decide. No major dilemma. Noah has done more then enough to have to attempt to work out issue with the bronze /brown Madexx because some don't think he should be a rare spawn anymore because he'll have a common skin.

Common skin or not he's still Madexx and your (no one directly) pet. The attachment and worth shouldn't change because he has a common and it also should be removed just because some folks don't want the rare on the rotation anymore.

Just my two bits.

[Pent]

Maddex is fine as he is imo,
The effort it takes to get your favorite color makes it all the more special.

I will guarantee you that when and if I get the Green Madexx he won't be anymore special than any other pet I have... and I didn't have to camp 9+ weeks for any of them.

Why are you spending 9+ weeks camping a pet you dont even care about? I don't think thats Blizzards fault.

Anyways its just pixels when it comes down to it. color=#008000 is really not that much different than color=#0000FF

I honestly don't know why you wouldn't treat a Green Madexx as the holy grail of pets after seeing your numerous threads and multiple posts all regarding your camping experiences on this Green Madexx Pent. That completely baffles me.

It's the last Cataclysm rare I want/need right now. It isn't that I don't care about it, it is because I have been camping ONE certain color for 9+ weeks and have only seen it ONCE.

Madexx is Madexx. I have the four other colors (well.. except brown, I keep ditching brown)... I could have had the four colors thrice over if I had kept them or had not given them away.

I personally want green. Random Joe #1 personally wants blue and Random Joe #2 personally wants red. I just don't see why anyone would want to put their WoW-life on hold for as long as it 'could' take in order to get the color they want seeing how long I have been at it just for a color.

Know why I won't treat the green Madexx as the holy grail of pets? Because I know that somewhere someone else has done a fly-by their first trip to Uldum and tamed the green one. It's the same as any other pet.... any pet is only "rare" for about a week... then you'll start seeing them all over the place sooner or later... well.. unless the pet is ugly.

Royi... weren't you the other one upset about not getting the green Madexx and you got upset and said you had camped enough so you stopped? Or am I thinking of someone else? ... and wasn't this like over a month ago...? ...I am still at it.

Veph, I totally agree that having Madexx in 5 different colors is an awesome idea, but the semi-random timer and random color on each spawn is not so awesome. Sure it was awesome for the first two that anyone camps, because your odds are high you won't get the same color. I don't think Blizzard thought that people would be so gung-ho over any certain color as much as some of us are... If you want a blue Madexx and you only ever see everything but blue... you'll be upset with the situation too.

[Pent]

And honestly getting the luck of the draw, to me, is exciting. I wasn't picky and didn't care what color spawned I just wanted Madexx.

If you want Madexx himself then what color he spawns shouldn't matter. As I said before and I'm saying it again be thankful you (no one directly) spotted him so many without interruption from anyone. Myself and many many others weren't even remotely as lucky and that's with camping hours upon hours.

You are lucky. Don't sell yourself short. You weren't picky. You didn't care what color you got. This would actually be all fine and dandy if no one cared what color any pet they got was...

Let me make an example that is kinda crazy, but it may show some how I feel and they would understand where I am coming from better... Let's pretend that brown Madexx was never a rare, but instead the Madexx (that is brown now) spawned as a fiery Madexx that is a transparent <insert you favorite color here>. Now this Madexx would share the spawn table with the blue, red, green, and black Madexxs. You decide before you are even high enough to tame him that you MUST have that color and no other color would do... The problem is you are never able to tame him because you never see him, but you are seeing the other colors spawn like mad whenever you are lucky enough to be around when they appear...

OK... I have no clue where I am going with this, but the point is I am not asking for colors to be changed or even removed from the game all I am asking for is a little something that Blizzard could do in order to make the color spawn to be less random, or for it to spawn more times a day to increase the likelyhood of a hunter's choosen Madexx color to be a little readily available without sitting around for 12-24hrs (or 9+ weeks) from the last spawn only to see it spawn in the same exact color because the color spawns are totally random.

I assure you, zedxrgal... if you spent the time I have spent in Uldum doing circles you would have seen just as many Madexxs (or more) as I have... and there is a chance that you would have totally missed out seeing one specific color... like me. Like I said, I have seen multiples of the other 4 colors, but only one green... random is random, but that just doesn't seem fair for some reason.