Stances Overriding Commands

Acherontia · **Posted:** Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:00 am

So I haven't really done much hardcore soloing since the change to pet stances. I just want to say, it is really aggravating that pet "stances" now override manual commands--i.e. if I tell my pet "move to," it carries on attacking, or will head that way and then turn back.

I have to set the pet to passive, THEN move it, then back to this "assist" stance. If a pet is on "assist" in PvP and I tell it to change target, but if I have a DoT on the current target, it will go running back to the DoTTed target trying to "assist." It's really annoying. I was trying to solo an old WotLK heroic boss today, and had to recall the pet into LoS for heals every now and then, but the pet simply refused to return, or to move to LoS when in Assist due to my Serpent Sting.

I'd like to see manual commands ALWAYS override "stance" behavior until the command is executed.

Wondering if anyone else has run into issues with this, and just needed to vent >.>

Sarayana · **Posted:** Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:18 am

I have the problem all the time. I notice it a lot on the airship fight in DS (I forget his name) -- because I dps his dragon first, if I don't set my pet to passive and sic her on the boss, she'll just hang out on the railing of the ship until I turn to the boss, even if I do start the fight by sending her after the boss. As BM, I hate not being able to use KC when it's up.

Quivering · **Posted:** Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:14 pm

This annoys the water out of me. On a fight like Blackhorn, when he lands, pets can't seem to hit Goriona. So I have to take him off Assist, send him to manually attack Blackhorn, then I attack Goriona without worrying my pet is going to run to the side of the boat and look at the dragon to death. The fact I have pet attack and hunter mark in a macro makes this that much more annoying -_-

Edit: just saw Sarayana has the same problem xD

Syriana · **Posted:** Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:20 pm

I took pet attack off of my macro for exactly this reason. I've grown accustomed to the changes, but they still annoy me. Especially when I tell my pet to attack a new target, he runs a few meters in that direction, and then changes his mind and goes back to what he was doing.

Zuilu · **Posted:** Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:35 pm

This has caused problems for me a number of times, pets really have a mind of their own now.

Junrei · **Posted:** Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:31 pm

Quivering wrote:

This annoys the water out of me. On a fight like Blackhorn, when he lands, pets can't seem to hit Goriona. So I have to take him off Assist, send him to manually attack Blackhorn, then I attack Goriona without worrying my pet is going to run to the side of the boat and look at the dragon to death. The fact I have pet attack and hunter mark in a macro makes this that much more annoying -_-

Edit: just saw Sarayana has the same problem xD

Yup. Pet cant even attack the other dragons either. ><;

peanutbuttercup · **Joined:** Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:52 am **Posts:** 462

For raiding it's generally best to have the pet on passive and manually select the target to attack. Not just for a fight like Blackhorn where the pet can't reach certain targets, but any AOE fight as well, because the pets spend so much time ping-ponging to different targets. Also I think as a pet class it's part of our job to manage our pets and not rely on the AI.

But, I do miss the old version of assist stance as well where the pet AI was a bit more intelligent.

Acherontia · **Posted:** Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:11 pm

Yup to all of this--and lol @ "look at the dragon to death"

One other thing that irritates me to no end... Has anyone else tried moving their pet with "move to" in combat? Your pet will go back to wherever it was when you entered combat if it was on move to already, and won't go where it's meant to--the whole thing is entirely bugged.

Sarayana · **Posted:** Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:17 pm

peanutbuttercup wrote:

For raiding it's generally best to have the pet on passive and manually select the target to attack. Not just for a fight like Blackhorn where the pet can't reach certain targets, but any AOE fight as well, because the pets spend so much time ping-ponging to different targets. Also I think as a pet class it's part of our job to manage our pets and not rely on the AI.

But, I do miss the old version of assist stance as well where the pet AI was a bit more intelligent.

Generally I agree with you, but using a /petattack and a /petpassive macro generally fixes that, while on trash it's just plain easier to keep it on assist and not have to worry about sending it in (and forget)... Generally, I'd say that the right thing to do is to switch between stances on bosses/trash, but well, I forget. *shrug* What's funny is that in the old system, I actually kept my pet on passive. >_<

peanutbuttercup · **Joined:** Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:52 am **Posts:** 462

Sarayana wrote:

Generally I agree with you, but using a /petattack and a /petpassive macro generally fixes that, while on trash it's just plain easier to keep it on assist and not have to worry about sending it in (and forget)... Generally, I'd say that the right thing to do is to switch between stances on bosses/trash, but well, I forget. *shrug* What's funny is that in the old system, I actually kept my pet on passive. >_<

Sometimes on raid trash I like to micro-manage, other times I let the pet /assist. But even on single target fights I've gotten used to hitting CTRL-1 again as soon as I open with a shot, even with the pet on assist, it's almost like I don't trust it to go to the target.

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