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Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:06 pm
by cowmuflage
Hmm true. Gotta go ask for their passports then!

Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:08 pm
by Valnaaros
They were originally a species native to Argus, but were brought with the Draenei when they fled. The Draenor and Argus species look different due to 25k years of evolution.

Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:10 pm
by cowmuflage
I've not heard of that lore before. It kinda makes sence but it kind of does not. Not really important really but I kinda wish they made something new.

Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:31 pm
by Valnaaros
It is new lore. Didn't exist prior to 7.3.

Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:13 pm
by pop
cowmuflage wrote:I've not heard of that lore before. It kinda makes sence but it kind of does not. Not really important really but I kinda wish they made something new.

I think it's plausible; Talbuks only exist in areas where there are Draenei settlements in Draenor.

I don't think there are any Talbuks in Frostfire Ridge and Bladespire.

Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:49 pm
by Valnaaros
There aren't. There was never any lore, to my immediate knowledge, that said Talbuks are native to Draenor, so it works out.

Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:07 am
by cowmuflage
pop wrote:
cowmuflage wrote:I've not heard of that lore before. It kinda makes sence but it kind of does not. Not really important really but I kinda wish they made something new.

I think it's plausible; Talbuks only exist in areas where there are Draenei settlements in Draenor.

I don't think there are any Talbuks in Frostfire Ridge and Bladespire.
Maybe I guess? Nagrand has the most and there are more Orc settlements there. I just feel like seeing as they made all these new beasts for Argus they could of just made something new.

Also can someone point me to this new lore? I'd like to read it.

Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:38 am
by Inay
It's not written I think but the logical déduction of Talbuks on Argus. (It does make sense for the people in exil to keep their working beast if nothing else, I think)

Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:39 am
by pop
cowmuflage wrote:
pop wrote:
cowmuflage wrote:I've not heard of that lore before. It kinda makes sence but it kind of does not. Not really important really but I kinda wish they made something new.

I think it's plausible; Talbuks only exist in areas where there are Draenei settlements in Draenor.

I don't think there are any Talbuks in Frostfire Ridge and Bladespire.
Maybe I guess? Nagrand has the most and there are more Orc settlements there. I just feel like seeing as they made all these new beasts for Argus they could of just made something new.

Also can someone point me to this new lore? I'd like to read it.
Nagrand probably the closest original Argus environment that they once roam hence why they flourished there. Oshugun crashed there and there are significant draenei sites too, so it's not that far fetched.

It's the same way how camels from the middle east thrives in Australia, but there are certainly more Europeans than people of Middle Eastern descent in Australia.

Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:37 am
by Wain
Even if they didn't come from Argus to Draenor, they could still logically exist on both. We have wolves, tigers, all kinds of other critters and creatures, existing on both Azeroth and Draenor, so why not a (made-up) type of antelope? It wouldn't be convergent evolution, after all, since in the Warcraft universe the Titans made everything and presumably liked to re-use their models, just like game developers :D . At least the models look different, to give them local flavour.

Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:38 am
by Wain
Valnaaros wrote:They were originally a species native to Argus, but were brought with the Draenei when they fled. The Draenor and Argus species look different due to 25k years of evolution.
Just curious where this is mentioned. I wanted to look it up :)

Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:01 am
by Valnaaros
It was mentioned in some string data for a World Quest or something like that. As of right now, WQs aren't implemented on Argus, but I suspect they will be within the next few builds. Even if this wasn't so, it makes sense that Talbuks are originally from Argus since we are finding them there. They are being used by the surviving Krokul/Draenei as mounts, ans that has been the case for the past 25k years.

Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:22 pm
by Wain
Thanks! I'll have to search for it.

Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:26 pm
by cowmuflage
Wain wrote:Even if they didn't come from Argus to Draenor, they could still logically exist on both. We have wolves, tigers, all kinds of other critters and creatures, existing on both Azeroth and Draenor, so why not a (made-up) type of antelope? It wouldn't be convergent evolution, after all, since in the Warcraft universe the Titans made everything and presumably liked to re-use their models, just like game developers :D . At least the models look different, to give them local flavour.
True that's most likely it. For all we know Talbuk could just be a generic name fore antelope or something.

Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:50 pm
by Valnaaros
Actually, the Titans didn't make everything. All worlds and the creatures upon them (including the Titans), were created from Shards of Light that were flung out into the Great Dark Beyond after the Light amd Void collided. The Titans explored many worlds, but Argus was not one of those worlds.

If it was, the Titans would've made note of a world soul being there. They would have ordered it and added the same systems that Azeroth had. But no, they only discovered two during their time: the one that Sargeras cleaved in half (whilst it was still in the "womb"), and Azeroth. They never knew about Argus and the fact that it had one. As such, it developed solely on its one without the Titan's designs and blueprints.

Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:59 pm
by Lee
While I don't personally like the panthera too much, they are pretty, and I appreciate those butterfly-wing like appendages they've got going on.

I just hope that warpstalker is tamable, and that there's somewhere to find those GORGEOUS dark blue and orange mana rays.

Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:56 pm
by Teigan
I need multiple leafy glow-cat-lizards. And a few wonderfully garish mana rays. And a Draenei to mind them. Because I need another hunter. I'm trying to convince myself that I'd be happy if the Marsuul has a minipet version and my Draenei paladin could have it and that would be fine. But, I think I'm going to be leveling a Draenei now. Assuming these are tameable. I'll wait until I know.

Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:47 pm
by Valnaaros
Alrighty! Another build, and more beasts :D

First up are the Flashfoot Marsuul and the Marsuul Kits. They are Lvl 110. No diet atm. Located at the Triumvirate's End. Also found the Flashfoots and kits at Azurelight Square and the Ruins of Oronaar. The Flashfoot is the yellow one, and the kits are the blue ones.

Next is the Ancient Skyfin. It is the dark blue and orange Mana Ray. It is Lvl 110. Untamable and without a diet. Also found in the Triumvirate's End, flying a fair distance above the area. Can only be shot in a few spots.

There are also Skyfin Mana Rays in the same area as the Ancient Skyfins. They are a teal Mana Ray. Lvl 110. Untamable and no diet.

In Azurelight Square, I have found four more beasts thus far. First is the Chitinbuk Ruinwalker and the Ruinwalker Calf. Lvl 110. Untamable and no diet. As you can see, the Chitinbuk is the tan variant, and the calf the white varient The next is the Springstep Marsuul. Untamable and no diet. Light blue and orange variant. Finally, there is the Frenzied Wurm, which is a void-tainted Mana Worm. Dark purple variant. Despite this, it is friendly. Lvl 110.

Further exploring, I found the Ruinwalker Stag. Purple variant. Lvl 110. Untamable and no diet.

Skyfin Mana Ray Update. They seem to have variants amongst them. Found the purple variant in the Ruins of Oronaar. Lvl 110. Untamable and no diet. Update 2: They seem to be found in almost all areas of Mac'Aree.

Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:06 pm
by Valnaaros
Located the Argus Ruinstalker at the Oronaar Collapse. Lvl 110 purple and red Warpstalker. Untamable and no diet.

Found a Voidstalker! Located in the Oronaar Collapse. Lvl 110. Untamable and no diet. However, it is labeled as a beast, so there is a chance that it'll be tamable :)

In Isolon Basin, I found two more Talbuks. One is the Shadowcrazed Chitinbuk, which is the purple spread-horned variant. The other is the Skittish Chitinbuk, which comes in a few variants. Both are Lvl 110, untamable, and no diet.

In Isolon, I found the Shadowseeker Panthara. Dark blue variant and dark purple variant. Lvl 110, untamable, and no diet. Also found the Shadowcrazed Marsuul, which is the light blue variant. Lvl 110, untamable, and no diet.

In a cave in the Umbra Hollows (northern Isolon Basin), I found Kaara the Pale: a Lvl 110 rare elite white Panthara. Untamable and no diet.

In northern Ruins of Oronaar is a Lvl 110 rare elite Talbuk named Crazed Baruut. White spread-horned variant. Untamable and no diet.

Re: 7.3 beast images

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:33 pm
by Valnaaros
In an area north of the Oronaar Collapse is the Panthara Shadowfang. Comes in the brown/purple and the blue variants. Lvl 110, untamable, and no diet.

In this same area is the Void Streaker and Void Nibbler; both of which are dark purple mana wyrms. Lvl 110, untamable, no diet.

There is also the Voracious Umbralfin and the Umbrafin. Both share the pinkish purple variant. The former is a Lvl 110 rare elite, whilst the latter is just 110. Both are untamable and have no diet.

In the northern section of the Umbral Hollows are the Voidgorged Stalker and the Voidstalker Alpha. The former is Lvl 110, untamable, no diet. The latter's name is listed as a placeholder, but is a 110 rare elite, untamable, no diet.

There is a 110 rare elite Panthara in the eastern section of the Umbral Hollows called the Chaos Prowler. Purple variant. Untamable and no diet.

Strangely enough, both the demonic larvae and the flying bat creatures (Which are insects), are both labeled as beasts. I rather doubt that these will be made tamable, but I am still cataloging them for completion's sake. Both are Lvl 110, untamable, and have no diets. Come in various colors.

Just northwest of the Seat of the Triumvirate, I found three more beasts: Magechaser Marsuul (also found in the Conservatory of the Arcane), Chitinbuk Grazer (also found in the Conservatory of the Arcane), and... Feasel the Muffin Thief ;D

The Magechaser is a Lvl 110, untamable purple Marsuul. The Grazer is a Lvl 110 untamable white or tan talbuk that comes in normal and spread horns. And Feasel is a Lvl 110 rare elite light blue Marsuul that is currently untamable and has no diet.

In the Wakener's Enclave, there is another Panthara called the Manafeeder Panthara. It has a baseline blue variant, but changes to the purple one when charged with the Arcane. Is Lvl 110, untamable, and has no diet.