Dawn of the Blessing OOC

Should we allow three typings for a pokemon? (IE Fire/Grass/Flying)

No. We've always had it at two, let's keep it. Besides, it might get OP.
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Yes. Change is good, it gives a wider variety. It won't be that bad.
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*pokes head in*

Just wanted to say that I'm not sure if I'll join this RP, but I'm really curious to see what you guys are hashing out and what this whole Blessing thing is about. :3

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Pssst...I wanna join the thing
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You both have very nice shiny pages. yes.

uh plot things. Right now the biggest thing I still want is a coherent list of what the Blessing is yay to and what the Blessing is nay to.
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I would also like to join the thing. I just need a plot summary/etc. Which I guess were figuring out now. And the general what's allowed/not allowed. I still have wacky net and rely mostly on my phone. I also may be getting a new job so that'd be me mostly posting in the evenings. I'm in a better situation than I was last RP though so it should be a bit easier.

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I'm pretty sure they're "yay" to just cross species couples, but not if they have a kid.
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Glain wrote:I would also like to join the thing. I just need a plot summary/etc. Which I guess were figuring out now. And the general what's allowed/not allowed. I still have wacky net and rely mostly on my phone. I also may be getting a new job so that'd be me mostly posting in the evenings. I'm in a better situation than I was last RP though so it should be a bit easier.
Well, we're currently figuring out the plot stuff for this RP.. And soon we'll have summaries for the plots that, well, came before this. Soooooon. It'll just take a bit. THOSE RPs WERE COMPLICATED. Cause they're sort of important. XP But more people is always nice! This is like, the most people we've had for an RP ever, I think. Which is exciting!

And uh.. I will note that the Blessing are kinda cool with Champions? Unless they're Champions to the wrong Legend. (Like to a Shiny Legend. Theeeen NOPE NOT COOL. Otherwise? Champions are all cool with them, I believe.)

I should go poke Ruby about this lol
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Champions would be like the Legend-blessed ones, yeah?

Man, I've been involved in most of these RPs and even I get the terminology messed up!

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Yeah, the Legend-blessed guys. XP Champions.

Oh trust me, I'm pretty sure every single one of us gets confused about our own dang RP verse a lot of them time. XD
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Wait I thought they didn't like Champions because they hate everything more powerful than them or something.

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I'm just passing along what Ruby's told me? XD So.. YEAH.

I dunno. I think we just really need Ruby to help us with this.
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Oh alrighty then.

And yeah we kinda do.

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Oh wait also guys did we ever think of a name for the not-Blessing guys?

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I've been going with Ekleipsis because I'm a dork. And because I really like the connotations of eclipses and the whole "Downfall" thing.

If other people want that, sweet let's rock it. But I am SO open for suggestions.
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Ekleipsis works for me.

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Has there been much word from Ruby?
If not, and if she doesn't get back to us soon, should we attempt to cobble something together?
Glain wrote:I would also like to join the thing. I just need a plot summary/etc. Which I guess were figuring out now. And the general what's allowed/not allowed. I still have wacky net and rely mostly on my phone. I also may be getting a new job so that'd be me mostly posting in the evenings. I'm in a better situation than I was last RP though so it should be a bit easier.
I'm not sure if you got a response back at all, but I think we're actually still figuring out a lot of the plot. XD
At least the plot of this RP. It does follow on from some prior pokemon RPs that this group has done, but knowledge of what happened in those isn't strictly required I believe. I'd be happy to give you a synopsis of what I know, although apparently we have a wiki that's being worked on that'll hopefully provide better details.
As for what's allowed, I think the better question is what isn't allowed. We're running a bit fast and loose with the pokemon canon here.
All your standard pokemons get a thumbs up I'm pretty sure, as do slightly altered markings and/or shinies. Let me list the non-standard stuff:
- Deltas, which are pokemon either with an additional type, or with one of their types removed. A rock type squirtle as an example, or a electric/dragon jolteon.
- Hybrids, the offspring of two pokemon who have physical traits of two (or more) different species.
- Dusk-Evolved, Pokemon who were forced to evolve by a super-duper virus from one of the past RPs, past the normal boundaries of evolution. Charosaur as an example, which was an evolution above charizard.
- Dusk-Blood, pokemon born from one or more dusk-evolved parents. Exhibit mutations that aren't seen in their species normally, with the mutations more obvious depending on their parentage. One Dusk parent means very small abnormalities, two dusk parents means more apparent mutations.
- Champions, pokemon who have been chosen to serve a legendary. This in turn gives them some attributes related to their patron, and some access to that legendary's movepool.

I... think that's everything? Hopefully someone can clarify this mess if you're still confused. We're doing characters up on this spreadsheet, when/if you feel up for joining, there's a tab for you.

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Haven't gotten anything from Ruby yet, unfortunately.

Also.. Just so people know, I'm gonna be away from tomorrow (Friday) until Monday. So yeah.

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Hello yes I am here.
Im sorry my tardiness was all my fault
So plot things....The Blessing for the most part is- kinda, well old. I mean it was one of my first creations after all and I would be willing to change things about it.

That said I have this old Rank thingie
Now umm theres some types of pokemon listed on there I kinda put in at the time to 'spice things up' as I thought.
Here i'll explain them.

I figured since we had Delta pokemon (from the card game) I might as well add some more card game pokemon, Light and Dark Pokemon.

From what I gather, light pokemon tend to be more serenade and kind in nature, often appearing light and more angelic and according to the game have more HP and often help other pokemon
Card lore states that pokemon become this after being raised by a caring trainer.
Dark pokemon were created by being raised by a more villainous nature trainer (It used team rocket as a referance but im assuming this can happen with any trainer), they have higher attack power but lower health.
These pokemon pretty much look like normal pokemon which is why I added that their able to join the group.

Omega pokemon are something I made up.
Basically they have one type removed instead of added, take an Azumarill
okay so Azumarills can be a fairy/water type right? While a Omega one is only one of those types. Omega Marils would be more common in places like Hoenn where fairy types aren't as common

We don't have to add these of course. It was just something I added awhile back.

I like your idea Azu; I always imagined that the assassins where kinda hand picked and specially trained- specifically warped to have a certain mindset, to make this happen a number of methods may be used like emotion or mental abuse, harsh physical training, you know stuff like that.
And of course the individual itself must be easy to mold- sometimes they don't do very much if the passion to wipe out an entire species is strong enough

a lot of this probably needs to change though. Again The Blessing is an old ass idea that needs lots of fix ups
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Does the blessing not like Mewtwo? You say no experiments, and while Mewtwo have been excepted into the world over time by most, that doesn't change the fact that they are, in fact, experiments and mutations.
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Thank you for getting back to us Ruby, it's appreciated. <3

A lot of the stuff you have listed is pretty intriguing, and I admit that I love the idea of the Blessing being an organisation, rather than just a mob collectively calling themselves the same label. Makes them feel like a much more serious threat, in my mind. I mean, savage killers destroying everything in their way is fun and awesome too, but having a group that feels cohesive is a very different beast. The idea of ranks especially feels like a damn cool concept - different teams sent in to deal with situations they are specialised in.

I do have a couple of ideas for possible changes, although I'll preface them by saying that they're entirely my own biases at work. None of these need to be incorporated if people don't like them or have different thoughts as to where they'd like the Blessing to go. I just want to get a discussion rolling so we can hash out a cohesive plan and get this all started.

- First question is first, how did this group start out? Why was it formed, or rather, why did it's founders feel it necessary to start this movement? When did they first start to arise?
I really like Azu's point of not making these guys straight-out nazi analogies, at least not all of them, and that fear is a great tool to use in it's place. So, when would be a good point for these guys to form? I could easily see it happening after the events of RotS. A lot of people were killed, moreso had much of their lives ruined - be it from their homes being destroyed, or their family killed. Makes sense to me that some people would band together to ensure that those still of dusk blood would not have the chance to rise again. A few small people at first, taking out some of those most obviously former dusk. But soon their numbers swell and their vision changes, dusk aren't the only powerful potential threat out there. What if the Legendaries rise and decide to attack with their armies? What about these delta-types? How do we know they're not some dusk-mutation? Surely it's not natural to see those colours on a pokemon, we have to protect our kin above all else. We cannot trust what we don't know, better it not exist at all than risk it killing us.
Perhaps in the background, there's a more malevolent force feeding this fear. But I love the idea of amping up the paranoia of the ordinary people to fuel this movement.

- Speaking of which, I'd also like to see the Blessing, at the point where this RP starts off, as an accepted and trusted part of normal society. At the lower ranks of the group, they do a lot of humanitarian work. Funds to help support families who are suffering from pokemon attacks, a local watch to keep people safe and secure, and rangers who brave the wilderness to help take out the larger threats out there before they become a problem. It brings a little more moral ambiguity to the conflict. Sure, these guys are out to kill innocents who are just different, but at the same time they do a lot of work to keep people safe. They've aided in rebuilding. They do take out pokemon/poachers/whatever else that do legitimately pose a threat. A lot of otherwise innocent people support them, some volunteer or donate to keep the group doing what they do.
Of course, the higher up in the ranks you go, the more secretive the organisation gets. Most people only see that good side. Only a select, trusted few know about what goes on in some of their larger facilities. The experiments and dissections on abnormals to see the best methods of taking them out, the grueling psychological breakdown that their most dangerous agents go through to become the perfect tools for their cause. All for the greater good, of course.

- Love the idea of the assassins. Having teams that are specialised in taking down one dangerous threat just sounds like a damn cool idea. Special ops type stuff. Sometimes you get assassins in mixed teams, but usually they stick in their own little focused groups. Means they have the best chance at taking out a threat.
I do agree that they shouldn't be the only fighting force the Blessing Have though, and agree with the idea of regular grunt-types. The assassins are the best of the best, gone through that torture-style reconstruction to hone them into the finest weapons they need to be, and as such they are very few in number.

- Although, to flow on from that thought, what groups do we want the Blessing to target? I'm assuming the stuff listed in the document is still true (Duskblooded, Shinies, Deltas, Dream World Abilities). I'm also going to assume that Hybrids are a likely target as well. But what about Champions? Or for that matter, the legendaries that create them? I could personally see the Blessing being a bit antsy about a legendary who chooses to have champions, and such pokemon blessed to be abnormalities and thus a potential danger, but I've heard conflicting thoughts on the matter.

- Masterminds are another cool idea, acting as coordinators for some of their specialised forces. The issue I have is how to handle them in terms of the RP. I can see their inclusion bringing in a layer of complexity that'll only serve to make things more confusing for players, especially when Blessing agents start teleporting around. I'm also not sure they'll really be able to serve as characters in their own right, merely tools to give the Blessing more of an edge that they already have.
I really like the idea, and if we can figure out a way of balancing these dudes I'd be all for them. But as they are now, I'd advise cutting them from the group for now.

- A lot of the other ranks feel like they could use a little bit of pruning. Condensing down from a bunch of little taskforces into a couple of more broad groups. I'd probably arrange them into something along these lines personally:

- Heads of the Organisation. You mentioned something about a figure named Father, but I couldn't see any additional info there. Either way a guy or a number of guys who run the thing. May once have been of good intention, but have since spiraled into something else.
- The Assassins. Specialised forces with each member trained to take out a specific type of threat. Mostly work alone, but known to team up for more dangerous missions
- Spies. Skilled infiltrators who feed back information to headquarters about larger groups of "mutants". Occasionally work as assassins (in the sense of they go and kill people of importance), but their main task is more to report back anything that could be used against Blessing enemies.
- Researchers. Guys that are tasked with the more hush-hush experiments (Both to improve their own soldiers and how to better kill any threat) and run a lot of the higher-level administrative work. By nature know about a lot that's going on, probably lacking a little in ethics, go through a rigorous level of training to make sure that they are loyal to the cause.
- Rangers. These guys comprise the bulk of the offensive side of the Blessing. Their main job is to go out into the wilderness and track down threats. Depending on the situation they find, they are to either take care of it, or in the case of more dangerous targets, report back to HQ. Usually move in small groups but it's not uncommon to find Rangers on their own. Do not know about the more hush-hush stuff going on.
- Wardens. These guys act as more of a security force, focusing on urban and inhabited areas. In addition to keeping an eye out for aberrations, they also serve as recruiters, humanitarian workers and propaganda perpetuators. As with the Rangers, they do not know about the less ethical stuff.
- Volunteers. For the most part just regular people doing their best to help out with a cause they trust. A lot of it is just keeping an eye out for anything off, but often they get involved in humanitarian work and (unwittingly) further spreading Blessing propaganda. Know nothing outside of the positive image the group does it's best to portray.

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Throwing ideas out there. Purely headcanons/suggestions/things to mull over:

- I could see the Blessing accepting some Champions, but it'd depend entirely on which Legend they came from. If the Blessing has, say, a Kyogre working with them, then I can see them accepting Champions the kyogre creates because at the end of the day, the Blessing tells the Legendary what to do, and in an in-direct way has control over the Champions. Useful tools that as long as they do what needs to be done can live. Whether everyone is okay with that can vary--there could even be a plan to dispose of said Champions once things are dealt with.

-I love the idea of there being a hierarchy and the higher you go, the more secretive you get. I like the idea of the humanitarian efforts as well--sort of like what I feel Team Plasma should have been. More strongly get people to trust them and even support them, and then as soon as they have most of the population eating out of their hands, they do what needs to be done--and at that point, no one will stop them. "Oh, look, rumor has it the Blessing are killing Dusk. Should we worry?" "Of course not, the Dusk were all evil and the Blessing has done so much for us." Even "My cousin was a hybrid and the Blessing killed them and it makes me uneasy." "Oh, but the Blessing have given you so much support and everyone knows hybrids are planning to enslave/kill/harm us anyways."

Half fear based rumors, half humanitarian efforts, and the Blessing seems very much like a good guy, with only some knowing the ramifications. We get a lot of the political element--everyone will be afraid of those who aren't normal, and I think we could do some really cool stuff with that. Normal pokemon helping those Mutants? Shunned by everyone else. Normal pokemon refused to service/speak to Mutants. Normal pokemon actively hunting down, turning in, or otherwise creating a huge witch hunt over Mutants. It could escalate to the point where you may even have others turning each other in on "suspicion they're a Delta type".

You can go a looooot of ways with it.

-I would love, love, love, LOVE to see something done with the researchers. Explorations on how to remove a "Delta" type. Trying to "cure" Dusk regardless of the disease taking hold and the evolutions. "Re-training" those sympathetic to Mutants. Some working on more peaceful ways to "fix" them, others looking for purely violent ways to purge them.
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