About the typing thing: I believe that having more than three typings, is just part of being a hybrid, and I can understand limiting the typing if there's going to be new people readily joining, but in this case there's not. once people understand the typing of a particular character, it would be fine to have three, or, god forbid, Four typings. As I explained to senna though, the four typing thing is something I said so we could have full crosses of any two pokemon. however, more typings than that would be catastrophic to the pokemon on a genetic level, and would have disastrous side effects, which may, in some cases, even be fatal to the pokemon. (If we have three typings be the limit, then this could happen at Four? Although I admit to being reluctant.)
However, on these specific pokemon, I think moves like trick-or-treat and Forests curse will act like soak, and just change them to that type. (Or always, if that's what you want.)
Just wanted to voice my opinion. although if I seemed a bit harsh, I'm hormonal right now, and a little bit... too many cookies today.
Alright. Now the internet is back and I can pretend I've been awake for more than five minutes, let's see what I can do.
First off, on the new people front--I'd already argue that Silva is a new person. Sure, she participated in one RP that died. She understands the whole catching up thing. She vaguely knows about the old RPs. And I'm gonna do what I can to get Silva on the same page as everyone else, mostly because I dragged her into this. (Let's face it, no Cole without Cynda.)
I don't see why three types are necessary. A, that's pulling from a HUGE move pool. Play your cards right, and you can have a pokemon that effectively is glorious for any situation ever. We don't need full crossings. God forbid you have to pick and choose types from both parents. That's whole genes work anyways. You get bits from parent A and bits from parent B. Not "WE GET ALL OF IT".
Also, Trick-Or-Treat or Soak are temporary things. And while yes, Trick-Or-Treat does add a third typing, it doesn't give it access to any moves in the first place, nor does it alter the pokemon. Effectively it's a hidden type that has no effect other than giving it an extra weakness. It does pretty much nothing. And if all you're interested in is a third type that means absolutely nothing for your char, then why not just go with two? Besides, using that rationale, I should be allowed to have my pokemon change its type whenever its wants, because Camoflauge/Conversion/Multi-Type are a precedent. See how that argument is flawed?
So, while I technically take the side of having three types for hybrids.. I will admit that four is a bit overboard. Mainly, the reason I like having three types is that really, no matter what the hybrid is, three types will sufficiently represent all species it is made up of. That's why I oppose two types, since for a lot of hybrids, it leaves things.. Lacking, in a way. It feels like they lack a type to represent one part of them.
For example, a Vaporeon-Darkrai-Rampardos hybrid. If three types were present, it would be Water/Dark/Rock. So it represents all three species the hybrid is made up of. But if it only had two types.. If it were Water/Dark, I'd be left wondering "wait, what about the fact that it's part Rampardos? shouldn't it be Rock type too?". Same for it it were Rock/Dark, then "what about Water? It's part Vaporeon, isn't it?"
I feel like in that situation, said hybrid would feel.. Incomplete, in a way. Like part of it isn't represented.
Well then. I guess that's too damn bad. You have to pick and chose. That's how this stuff works. I mean, if you have a parent with red hair and black hair, you don't expect the child to have half and half. You pick a type from the parent, you pick a type from the other parent, and you let aspects of whatever hybridy parent you want show through in order ways--say, I dunno, its body shape. Colors. The way it talks. I don't care. There's other ways to represent a pokemon than purely type. Trying to figure out weaknesses/strengths for a three type pokemon will be hell for everyone. No one wants to do that and what'd it'd mean in RP things. A friend pointed out that when skorupi evolves, it loses its bug type and becomes dark. Yet I'm pretty sure we can all agree that, yeah, skorupi looks pretty buggish to me. You want to do that and change a typing when your hybrid evolves, fine.
HOWEVER.. I can definitely see the point of saying hybrids with three types can be overpowered. That's a legitimate concern. But honestly, we have a LOT of OP characters around. (Dusk-Evolved, I'm lookin' at you!) And even WITH only two types, hybrids are still generally stronger than normal Pokemon as it is.
And, really, the point of the being kind of OP with three types WOULD tie in with the idea of making the Blessing act more out of fear than anything? Like, yeah, hybrids with three types ARE kinda OP. In that way, I wouldn't blame the Blessing for going "Hybrids are OP! we need to kill them before they kill us!"
So we should add more? I mean, at this point I'd like to consider addressing that and working to make sure they're all on the same level. I mean, I have several characters who are insanely OP. They'd probably not be fun to actually RP with others in a big group setting, because no one wants to RP with a big scary god-beast. Legendaries are different in my opinion because, at least for me, all the Legends I've played so far are nowhere near 'max power' they could be. Cro? Young, doesn't know how to do half his crap. Forrestal? At the end of the day he's still a gimpy, young, immature ho-oh, he just tries to act older than he is. Dusk as it is, there's like what, one proper Dusk evolved that's still a Dusk evolved? Two if you use Phantom? All the others are either children, and thereby nowhere near as strong as the Dusk were because it's a generation removed, or have become insanely weirdly OP in different ways, say Sol. It's probably why I'll make Sol a background character. Because she's fun to play with in small settings, or write stuff for. But she'd be annoying in a bigger setting with a bunch of people because she's inherently stupidly OP. And I don't want to force that on others. You point out hybrids are way OP. I'm not sure I see how. They stick to two types, they use a certain set of moves roughly drawn from their parents, which is appropriate considering a hybrid wouldn't have its own move pool, and if people are RPing it as a SUPER GOD BETTER THAN THOU kind of deal, that's on them. I certainly don't. Pretty sure the whole Blessing plot line wasn't even a I TOLD YOU SO THEY REALLY ARE STRONGER more based on prejudice and perceptions of superiority.
Furthermore, those OP things you discuss are generally and thus far approved by the group. Should dissent come out for any of them, then we'd do what we do now--take a poll, see what the opinion is. If people no longer like it, they're no longer playable. Plain and simple. Three types is an OP element that has been added that is new and thus far at time of writing it, is not wanted.
I would like to suggest the thought of just going "you can do whatever", and say that some hybrids have two types, and some have more. That way, both sides technically "win." Both sides would get what they really want out of the argument. So those who prefer two types can have dual-typed hybrids, and those who prefer hybrids with more types can have hybrids with more types. While I did also suggest the idea of taking votes on the subject, the more I think about it, the more I like this solution. That way nobody really "loses."
And honestly, we're mainly here to have fun with this RP, aren't we? Let's not turn this into another "only one "special" character per person!", or "only X amount of characters per person!" thing, because we ALL know how badly those situations ended. Like how we settled the character limit thing by saying people can have as many characters as they want as long as they can handle it, I think at this point, we can TRUST each other to not go all god-mode with a Pokemon with more than two types. And as I said, it's not like we don't already have a bunch of "OP" characters around. We have Dusk-Evolved, Wraitheons, Champions and giantass uber Legendaries EVERYWHERE in this verse. Hybrids or Deltas with three or more types are OP, yes, but so is practically everything else in this verse. And like I said, I think at this point ALL of us know how to handle characters like that and not make them so horribly OP that it's just unfair. We're actually sort of GOOD at this sorta thing, ya know? I think we can trust each other to handle these characters reasonably. And really, the important thing here is we want to have fun with this RP, right? So maybe we should just agree to let everyone do basically what they want with their hybrid (or Delta) characters.
I'd like to suggest we do what we're doing right now. Gather a poll. If you win, then we have three-types. If you lose, then we don't and people have to suck it up. /shrugs. That's how it works. Saying "Those who want three types get their three types everyone is happy" doesn't quite work like that. If your three types remained only in your RPs and your headcanons, that's fine. But you're trying to force them onto a group RP, which has always been a separate beast than your headcanons, and if people don't like it, then people reserve the right to say "No I don't want it." and you have to respect that if that's how it goes.
The only reasons those ended badly is because you were the main dissent against it. Everyone else was alright with it. And in the scheme of things, I wouldn't argue hybrids or deltas are OP. They stick to the two typing rule. We've never really had a problem with that. It's been a good way to make sure things don't go out of hand, and it's been at the core of all of these RPs. We all agreed--hybrids, two types. Deltas, two types. You got a two type already and want a delta, replace one of the types.
Can I trust you guys, sure. But in the long run, there is a distinct difference between three types and their FAR MORE increased adaptability than two types. Not to mention, this is how it's been. This is what we agreed on a while back. Everyone was okay with it. I don't see why it is necessary to change it now. Yes, we've RPed it so that stats aren't as important. But I don't know about you guys, but if pokemon got hurt by something it was inherently weak against, then yes I'd make it pretty significantly noticeable. I've learned to do that over the past four years and worked on that. But three types adds a whole another element of things we'd have to figure out.