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 Post subject: Pet Idea: Sha Beast
Unread postPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:52 am 
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I have a neat little idea that may just like the new spirit beast. Here is my idea:
Basically, Sha Beast are animals formerly/semi-possessed by the Sha. After you tame one, the Sha that possessed it pop out of it and attack you/your new pet, making your pet lose a little bit of it's cloudy Sha-ish affect. They will come in all sorts of things from Cranes to Tigers and all that. They will come in two groups in the family: Sha Beast and Supreme Sha Beast. The Sha Beast being available to everybody, and the Supreme Sha Beast being Exotic.

Here are the abilities for the Sha Beast (Non-supreme):
Sha Strike - Your Sha Beast strikes at the target with great emotional force, giving them a buff that may harm them.
Despair - The target stops attacking for 10 seconds. Afterwards, it attacks itself for 5 seconds. Can be dispelled.
Anger - The target becomes enraged and attacks friendly players/NPCs for 15 seconds. Cannot be dispelled.
Hatred - The target attacks friendly players/NPCs for 10 seconds. Can be dispelled. (Basically a weaker version of Anger.)
Fear - The target begins to run away in uncontrollable fear for 15 seconds. Cannot be dispelled.

The Supreme Sha Beast are very intelligent animals, such as Cloud Serpents (I know this is gonna spark a little fight about self-awareness and all that... Even though we already keep self aware pets like Parrots, Gorillas, and now Ravens. Oh, and did I mention people want pet Elekks and Mammoths, which are Elephants... which are self-aware!), but I personally think they are not as intelligent as say the dragons you see around the rest of Azeroth) and are able to control the Sha that has possessed them if not destroy it. This will let them keep there Sha-ish affect, however, you can still see there skin colors. They will of course, carry Sha Strike, as well with another ability.

Summon Sha - For 1 minute, your Supreme Sha Beast will split itself with the once controlling Sha within it that is now under the control of your pet. While your Sha is out, it will increase your Sha Strikes affects depending on the size.
Weak Sha - Adds 5 seconds and and increases the power of debuffs by 25%
Powerful Sha - Adds 10 seconds and increases the power of debuffs by 50%
Godlike Sha - Adds 20 seconds and increases the power of debuffs by 100%

Both abilities are like the Chimaera's Froststorm Breath and Worm's Burrow. Sha Strike has a 5 minute CD, while Summon Sha has a 10 minute CD. This is to limit the amount of spam so it's not super OP.


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 Post subject: Re: Pet Idea: Sha Beast
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A very interesting idea, but unfortunatly I think too complicated for them to ever consider doing, at least not in this fashion. At most they'd chalk sha beasts in with spirit beasts, keep em exotic, sorry, and let it be at that. Would be cool to at least keep the sha effect on them though.

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 Post subject: Re: Pet Idea: Sha Beast
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:/ Not sure if you purposefully pinched my idea I also happened to think of today right off the 'Whats your pet wish for a model that's NOT in game?' thread or if it's just a coincidence. Meh.

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Seeing this one gave me a really crazy idea, what if we had this pet as a unique rare spawn that was, essentially, evil? It wouldn't be a species of it's own or anything, it could be a spirit beast or even just a wolf but I got the impression that, if tamed, it would give the hunter a 'darker' appearance maybe? Maybe the hunter would have a smokey look with red eyes? I'm dying for a pet that somehow affects the hunter's appearance, we're all so close to our beloved hunter pets that I'm sure no one would disagree with this idea. xD


Either way, you added a good amount of good ideas to this. I like the idea of it, though I doubt it would happen.

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 Post subject: Re: Pet Idea: Sha Beast
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Either way, you added a good amount of good ideas to this. I like the idea of it, though I doubt it would happen.


Agreed :( Though I'd love for a sha to folow my dwarf around! It might get me back into WoW :P

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 Post subject: Re: Pet Idea: Sha Beast
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I doubt Blizzard would implement these sort of pet mechanics, but I'd love to see a Sha-inspired Spirit Beast!

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Snowwalker wrote:
A very interesting idea, but unfortunatly I think too complicated for them to ever consider doing, at least not in this fashion. At most they'd chalk sha beasts in with spirit beasts, keep em exotic, sorry, and let it be at that. Would be cool to at least keep the sha effect on them though.


There are plenty of complicated things in the game. If it can be anything from a Dungeon to a Raid or even a random NPC, why not a Hunter Pet? Seeing as there's plenty of time before MoP comes out, so Blizzard can simply just work out any bugs.


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:/ Not sure if you purposefully pinched my idea I also happened to think of today right off the 'Whats your pet wish for a model that's NOT in game?' thread or if it's just a coincidence. Meh.

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Seeing this one gave me a really crazy idea, what if we had this pet as a unique rare spawn that was, essentially, evil? It wouldn't be a species of it's own or anything, it could be a spirit beast or even just a wolf but I got the impression that, if tamed, it would give the hunter a 'darker' appearance maybe? Maybe the hunter would have a smokey look with red eyes? I'm dying for a pet that somehow affects the hunter's appearance, we're all so close to our beloved hunter pets that I'm sure no one would disagree with this idea. xD


Either way, you added a good amount of good ideas to this. I like the idea of it, though I doubt it would happen.


I somewhat got the idea for your post, emphasis on ''somewhat'' by the way, seeing as I chalked it up with abilities with special mechanics and variations of the pet.

Also, why do people doubt that Blizzard would ever create such a family? Is it because of the ability mechanics? Is it because of simply what they are? I just want to know (Not bashing any opinions, I would just like to know).


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 Post subject: Re: Pet Idea: Sha Beast
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GormanGhaste wrote:
I doubt Blizzard would implement these sort of pet mechanics, but I'd love to see a Sha-inspired Spirit Beast!

This, definitely. I have a feeling Sha-inspired would be as close as we'd get, but it'd definitely make a fascinating Spirit Beast skin.

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 Post subject: Re: Pet Idea: Sha Beast
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I'm not sure Blizzard would ever allow any hunter pet to be superior to any other... ever. They have gone to great lengths to make them all equal and has made a point of removing ANY pet that has a buff or extra ability.

But yeah, Wains idea to have a Sha inspired Beast I think would be wonderful if they did it.


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I've always wanted to see a more "corrupted" spirit type beast. Who says a spirit beast has to be a shiny blue spirit?
Something like above would be great imo too, a dark shadow puppy... or kitty, or what not :)

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 Post subject: Re: Pet Idea: Sha Beast
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I don't see Blizzard creating an entire family based off of the Sha, but I can certainly see them putting the appearance to use as a Spirit Beast, and I fervently hope they do. It's a great opportunity, and a Sha corrupted pet would be awesome.

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 Post subject: Re: Pet Idea: Sha Beast
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Vephriel wrote:
It's a great opportunity, and a Sha corrupted pet would be awesome.


Totally agreed :)

I'm thinking of rolling a "darker" themed hunter next expansion. While I have been rocking a "Blue EtherMech" theme for some time now, I think it's time for a change, and a sha pet would make me very happy :)

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 Post subject: Re: Pet Idea: Sha Beast
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Spiritbinder wrote:
I'm not sure Blizzard would ever allow any hunter pet to be superior to any other... ever. They have gone to great lengths to make them all equal and has made a point of removing ANY pet that has a buff or extra ability.


What buff/extra ability? The Sha Beast only has Sha Strike, while the Supreme Sha Beast has Sha Strike and Summon Sha (Exotic). Also, there are pets with buffs still in the game, like Devilsaurs and Quilen. Are you talking about it having say, higher attack than this pet, but lower stamina than that pet?


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 Post subject: Re: Pet Idea: Sha Beast
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I don't really think Blizzard would put that much time and trouble into one single pet. And no family of pet belongs in two different families. Karoma may *look* like a wolf, but he's a spirit beast, with spirit beast family abilities. If they implemented something like this, the other classes would howl about Blizzard "favoring" hunters...they already did something much like that when the 4.2 challenge tames came out.

A "darker" style spirit beast? Sure? What you're proposing...I seriously doubt it. As I've said before, there are many other things I'd much prefer Blizzard spend time and effort on than an unnecessarily complicated pet.

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I don't really think Blizzard would put that much time and trouble into one single pet. And no family of pet belongs in two different families. Karoma may *look* like a wolf, but he's a spirit beast, with spirit beast family abilities. If they implemented something like this, the other classes would howl about Blizzard "favoring" hunters...they already did something much like that when the 4.2 challenge tames came out.

A "darker" style spirit beast? Sure? What you're proposing...I seriously doubt it. As I've said before, there are many other things I'd much prefer Blizzard spend time and effort on than an unnecessarily complicated pet.


It's not two families. It's one whole family, with the Supreme Sha Beasts being tamable only by Beast mastery hunters. Did you think it was because of the Supreme Sha Beasts having Summon Sha that it was two completely different families?

Also, other classes will most likely get things that make other players rage saying ''Oh, Blizzard likes this class more than mine! They make me, the paying customer, feel like they aren't needed!'' if they haven't already! For all we know, if Blizzard does see this, they could just redo it all and make it more favorable to other classes. Do I care about that? No, this is there game and they get to do what they want with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Pet Idea: Sha Beast
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What buff/extra ability?


Within your ability of choice "Sha Strike" it ends up with 1 of 4 possible buffs. I was kind of coming from that direction if there was any confusion. The random nature of the "1 of four possible buffs", while it sounds like an interesting concept, if would actually never make into the game.

The idea of one ability that can, Disorientate into self harm, Can Mind control without the control, Can Reverse Mind control without the control and Fear, is simply to random and to unreliable. No pet or ability (save maybe a few engineering devices) in wow have any such variable attached thus far, and the implementation of one is very... very unlikely.

Also I'm inclined to agree with others, it's a hell of a lot of work, time and energy to put into 1 family type, of hunters pets. Don't get me wrong, where they to ever spend the amount of time on this niche area I would be ever so delighted, but again.....
very... very unlikely.

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