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Unread postPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:44 pm 
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I want to keep this list separate from the main pet list thread.

This thread is for:

1. Beasts from a pet family which are not yet tameable but possibly could be. Including things that are borderline (like, it would be great if all the fel wolves were made tameable but it seems just as likely they'll restrict them and make one rare), but excluding things that are obviously not tameable for reasons of mechanics or story. Like, a key mob in an event that would break the event if tamed, or something that is meant to be a baby animal.
Zones currently with listed untameables:


2. Anything that has the wrong classification on the Beta. Like Gronn that are classed as beasts, or wolves that aren't.

3. Any other issues of note that are related to tameable creatures.

4. Unavailable older skins for new families. We can worry about which new-model looks are missing once the Draenor lists are finalized.

I'll copy and paste over things from our pet list thread to here once they're confirmed to be not tameable and I'll try to focus on one completed zone at a time. So if you want to report things that aren't tameable, it would be handier to report it on that thread rather than here if you could. :)

Thanks VERY MUCH for any help :)

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Unread postPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:45 pm 
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Appearance issues:
  • Darktide Matriarch ID 79170, version of her after you free her, is white instead of black. She was black before. Not tameable so won't affect any pets.
  • Not as obvious, but Vengeful Rylak (ID 78264) should prob. also be black since it's a captured Darkwing. Again, not tameable, so won't affect any pets.
  • Rangari Lookout (ID 75015) at Twilight Glade rides Outland model talbuk
  • Dire Beast summons in Nagrand, ID 86181, uses Outland model talbuk.
  • Dire Beast summons in Spires, ID 86177, uses old model owl.
  • Dire Beast summons in FFR, ID 62005, uses old model wolf.
  • Plagued Bat (ID 75459) and Cave Bat (ID 75374) are both using a weird and slightly wrong appearance. Probably intended to both use the regular bat.m2 model with batskingreen, but instead both using the batmount.m2 model with the skins for "epicbatmountgold" which don't even work properly on that model. Incidentally, Captive Cave Bats (IDs 73522 & 73188) in Siege of Org have the same appearance and were probably also meant to be the standard green bat.
  • "Spirit Lion" (88420) summoned by a Saberon quest mob uses spectral version of very old lion model. Perhaps it could be a spectral version of the white panda tiger, white/red draenor tiger, or the base tiger god skin without all the fancy model stuff?
  • Suggestion rather than issue, but Big Pete (82202) and his offspring Petey, Pete Jr. and Lil' Peter (IDs 88927 - 88929) in Nagrand would be great in the new "JormungarRed" skin. Ironbore (half a worm model) is that colour and in the same zone, so matches. None are yet tameable so wouldn't affect any pets


Mobs that aren't in the right category:
  • Gurun (ID 80235), FFR. Gronnling. Should be giant not beast
  • Grondo (ID 76848), FFR. On second thoughts maybe giant, not humanoid. He's like 10 storeys tall! Maybe the same with Thunderlord War Gronn (ID 74448). I swear they used to be the gronnling model and a lot smaller
  • Gagrog the Brutal (ID 86771), Nagrand. Gronn. Should be giant, not beast
  • Peachick (76915) Talador. Should be critter not beast
  • Plaguebloom (ID 84403), Nagrand. Mandragora. Should be elemental, not beast
  • Nightstalker (ID 76241), FFR. Should be beast (Durotan's Wolf)
    Added 27 Sep:
  • "Rocket" (87725) at Warspear is classed as a beast but it's literally a rocket.
    Added 04 Oct:
  • Pit Beast (88208) Nagrand is classed as a humanoid but should be beast (pterrordax/skyscreamer)
    Added 06 Oct:
  • Thanks to Bashkarr checking, the following rylaks are still listed as chimaeras, apparently. So if you still plan to make them separate from other chimaeras:
    • Icewing Rylak
    • Thunderlord Driftstalker
    • Gorge Rylak
  • "Golden King Statue" in Stormshield shows up as a beast
  • There's a gigantic purple lobstrok corpse on the beach of Bloodmane Pridelands, simply called "Lobstrok" on the minimap. It's showing up as a beast instead of a humanoid. Can't target it to work out its ID, but it's likely to be 85948.

Bugs:
  • In far northern Talador (around Orunai Coast) the wrong Shimmerwing Moths were added. The ones that are present are level 69 blue ones from Outland (ID 20611)
  • Thunderlord War Rylak (ID 77122) can be attacked but will not aggro and doesn't seem to want to die
  • Blighted Axebeaks (88592) in Gorgrond cannot be targetted at all
  • Riptar (85970) in Gorgrond seems to be vignette mob, but not showing silver portrait
  • Berthora (85907) in Gorgrond seems to be vignette mob, but not showing silver portrait
  • Old colour-changing pets have apparently stopped changing colour, according to some reports on Petopia

Possible typos & naming issues?:
  • "Lernaen Shore" (zone in Nagrand) was probably meant to have an extra 'a' in it, and be "Lernaean Shore", which is the name of the hydras from there.
  • Similarly, "Echidnean Shelf" should be spelled "Echidnaean", like the names of the hydras in it
  • Gloomshade Fungi (ID 74709 AND 74175), SMV. Quite possibly should also be "Fungus" not "Fungi" unless it's a whole colony of mushrooms.
  • "Auchenai Precipice" region of Talador. There's no precipice. Was a cliff removed and the name stayed? ;)
  • Blue Shale Crawler ID 74724 and ID 74509 (Critter and Beast versions, BFD) are yellow. The base stone isn't blue either so it seems kinda weird.

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Unread postPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:45 pm 
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Things confirmed to still be untameable, but could possibly be

All major new zones are now mostly tameable, and just a few untameable things are left on the zone lists now. They may or may not be deliberately unflagged.

I haven't checked many instances yet, just the low-level RFK and RFD, so anyone who is able to check others would be very much appreciated!!


Frostfire Ridge:

Look Name Family Level / Status Tameable? Spawned? Area Notes Checked
Image Gorok boar 93
Elite
Vignette
No Drops Great Greytusk mount. 25 Oct
Image Unbroken Goresnout boar 90 No Bladespire Fortress Cannot be attacked / Beast Lored. 18 Sep



Ashran:

Look Name Family Level / Status Tameable? Spawned? Area Notes Checked
Image Ashmaul Gutwrencher boar 100 No Brute's Rise Armored boar! 20 Sep




Gorgrond


Look Name Family Level / Status Tameable? Spawned? Area Notes Checked
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Blighted Axebeak birdofprey 100 No Everbloom Wilds ***Cannot be targeted. 26 Sep
Image Darksting Venom spider 93 No Yes The Forgotten Caves Spawns during fight with Gorg the Host. 01 Oct
Image Iron Wolf wolf 101
Elite
No The Pit Ridden by Iron Wardens. 30 Sep
Image Lil' Roardan chimera/rylak 93 No Crimson Fen In a nest on top of a mushroom. You must jump mushrooms to reach him. 01 Oct
Image Riverbeast riverbeast 92
Elite
No Razorbloom Appear sick, with tentacular growths. 01 Oct
Image Swift Onyx Flayer ravager 100
Vignette
No Everbloom Wilds In a cave in a mountain south-east of Blackrock Foundry. 01 Oct




Nagrand


Look Name Family Level / Status Tameable? Spawned? Area Notes Checked
Image Big Pete worm 99 No Hemet's Happy Hunting Grounds Now attackable, but not tameable 02 Oct
Image Lil' Peter worm 99 No Yes Hemet's Happy Hunting Grounds Spawns during combat with Big Pete. 11 Oct
Image Pete Jr. worm 99 No Yes Hemet's Happy Hunting Grounds Spawns during combat with Big Pete. 11 Oct
Image Petey worm 99 No Yes Hemet's Happy Hunting Grounds Spawns during combat with Big Pete. 11 Oct
Image Nagrand Savager wolf 100 No Mok'gol Watchpost 02 Oct
Image Savage Warwolf wolf 100 No Mok'gol Watchpost 02 Oct



Spires of Arak

Look Name Family Level / Status Tameable? Spawned? Area Notes Checked
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Image
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Skettis Kaliri birdofprey 100 No Skettis ***Flagged tameable, but cannot be attacked 26 Sep
Image Stingtail Worker wasp 96 No Yes East of Murkbog Spawns during combat with Sunderthorn. 03 Oct
Image Swarmleaf Stinger wasp 96 No Yes Spawns during combat with Swarmleaf. 10 Oct



Shadowmoon Valley

Look Name Family Level / Status Tameable? Spawned? Area Notes Checked
Image Pathrunner stag 93
Rare
Elite
No Drops Swift Breezestrider mount. 21 Oct




Talador

Look Name Family Level / Status Tameable? Spawned? Area Notes Checked
Image Silthide riverbeast ?? ?? Anchorite's Sojourn Drops Sapphire Riverbeast mount.



Razorfen Kraul

Look Name Family Level / Status Tameable? Spawned? Area Notes Checked
Image
Image
Image
Image
Young Boar boar 33-34 No 04 Oct



Razorfen Downs

Look Name Family Level / Status Tameable? Spawned? Area Notes Checked
Image
Image
Image
Penned Squealer boar 40 No 04 Oct




Blasted Lands (6.0 phase)


Look Name Family Level / Status Tameable? Spawned? Area Notes Checked
Image Ironmarch War Wolf wolf 90 No Nethergarde Keep Phased area of Blasted lands for Warlords of Draenor. 05 Oct




Iron Docks

Look Name Family Level / Status Tameable? Spawned? Area Notes Checked
Image Dreadfang wolf 95
Elite
No <Fleshrender Nok'gar's Mount> 07 Oct
Image Ravenous Wolf wolf 94 No Released from cages during the Oshir encounter. 07 Oct
Image Rylak Skyterror rylak 94
Elite
?? Released from cages during the Oshir encounter.
Image Rampaging Clefthoof clefthoof 94
Elite
No 07 Oct



Skyreach

Look Name Family Level / Status Tameable? Spawned? Area Notes Checked
Image Dread Raven birdofprey 98
Elite
No?
Image Dread Raven Hatchling birdofprey 98
Elite
No
Image Rukhran birdofprey 99
Elite
No *** There's another ID: 76379 which has a loot table on Wowhead. However the one I checked when I ran the dungeon was def. 76143. So not sure what the situation is. 12 Oct
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Image
Skyreach Sun Talon birdofprey 98
Elite
No 12 Oct




Unavailable Older Skins for New Families

Please let us know if you come across these!

Look Notes
Image HydraSkinBronze
This colour used to be common in Azshara before the Cataclysm and was used on the Wavethrasher and Young Wavethrasher. From 5.0 onwards it's been missing entirely.
Image PandarenStagPurple
As far as we know this colour was never used in the game.

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Wrong category
Nagrand
Hulking Gronn - 86768 - Earthshaker Gorge (between Ring of Blood and Broken Precipice) - Gronn listed as BEAST, not tameable
Gagrog the Brutal (Gronn Rare Elite) - 86771 - Earthshaker Gorge - Gronn listed as BEAST, not tameable

Spires
Festerbloom (I believe is a vignette) - 84890 - Murkbog (west of Sethekk Hollow) - Plant Hydra listed as BEAST, not tameable

Two quick questions:

1- Does this pertain only to Draenor mobs?

If no to question 1...

2- Concerning your first requirement, would something like Shoveltusks fit into "borderline"? My intention with this question isn't to derail this into yet another wish-list thread, but they were mentioned in tweets as a point of interest. I'll post them only if it fits your purpose. If not, all good!

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Thanks for the reports!

For the first question: anything for this expansion, not just Draenor.

For the second question: no, it's not a thread to evangelise new tameable models :) . Just ones we *know* are meant to be in tameable families but haven't been flagged yet, or at least share the same model as tameables and could quite possibly become flagged.

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Added Shadowmoon Valley.

I kept the dread ravens in for now, as many of them are classed as birds of prey, even if none are tameable.

If they are made tameable, maybe carrion bird is more fitting anyway? They do seem that sort of bird (that would eat anything and fight over carcasses rather than just swoop in gracefully and take off again!) and would be nice for carrion birds to get some love in this xpac.

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Added Talador.

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The massive riverwallower was a glitched tame for me, it stays HUGE when tamed!
ID 79587

Not the same tame as the previously glitched baby hippo.


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Gorgrond, Everbloom Wilds (Level 100 quest area)

Everbloom Wasp Level 100 (86264)
Yellow wasp.

When tamed, it becomes classed as a ravager.


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Eaglesong wrote:
The massive riverwallower was a glitched tame for me, it stays HUGE when tamed!
ID 79587

Not the same tame as the previously glitched baby hippo.

Cool :) Weird, it didn't see that big when I tested it. I'll have to try again :)

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I really really love the model for the Glittering Mothling, I hope it gets a pass as a tame!! :)


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i just got a beta invite, i went to frostfire ridge, beast lored a Hunting Mount *white clefthoof* and its tameable, still has its armor and saddle attatched

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The Gloomshade Howler I tamed in SMW still thinks it's a Warp Stalker. I'll try to re-tame a new one today.


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Latest updates:

- added Gorgrond untameables

- added the following wrongly-classed things:
  • Invasive Shambler (79335), Talador. Classed as beast. Is a swamp thing, so should be elemental or humanoid or something.
  • Duurg (ID 84153), Gorgrond. Gronn, so should be humanoid or giant, not beast
  • Everbloom Wasp (86264), classed as ravager not wasp
  • Enchanted Feywing (81930), classed as beast not dragonkin

- added the following "possibly wrong" things:
  • Nightslash Owl (77442), Talador, uses old owl model
  • In far northern Talador there are some old Shimmerwing Moths from Outland (ID 20611, level 69). Seems like they were forgotten when the new Draenor one was put in.
  • Blighted Axebeaks (88592) in Gorgrond cannot be targetted at all
  • Typhon Scouts in Gorgrond are classed as boss level silver elites, despite being a common mob in their area. Presumably this a copy error from Typhon himself, and they should be regular, non-boss mobs.

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Although my previously tamed Gloomshade Howler is still a "warp stalker", I went out and tamed another which doesn't seem to be suffering from the same identity crisis. It's a wolf.


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Also added some (maybe 2/3?) of Nagrand. It's too huge to check all of it tonight.

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Added the rest of Nagrand that are untameable, except I couldn't find to check:
- Nakk the Thunderer
- Thorncoat Buck

The latter, which is red, doesn't seem to be around except for a couple of spawned corpses that wolves are eating. Instead there are just silver Thorncoat Talbuks everywhere.

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The white ravagers in Spire have a weird sound loop that they make, sounds really funny. Oh and Khargax the Devourer is tamable now :D :mrgreen:

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Just wanted to mention that the typhon broodmothers are tamable now. The scouts and typhon himself aren't though for the obvious reason... They're labled as boss mobs :P

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