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Unread postPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:53 pm 
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Wow, the new models are really gorgeous, I love the look of them. Much better details, good faces, more great attention to the undersides. But yet again, and I'm starting to feel like a broken record here, I wish the artists could like...actually look at the thing they're revamping and pay attention to colour choice.

I don't mean to sound so salty it's just getting really frustrating to me that they don't even seem to bother trying to uphold the appearance and colours of the originals. I haven't kept a lot of beetles over the course of my WoW time, but the blue scarab and the black and white one were my two favourites. The new scarab lacks that pretty blue colour the first one had, the indigo is dulled down to something closer to grey, and the black and white one, well, isn't even black anymore.

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Ahhh I love the new beetles/scarabs, maybe I'll actually use one now. :3

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Some of the colors are a big miss. The steel one used to make a good black beetle, but not anymore. My beetle pet is a turquoise one, and I like how the new model has turned out. I see there's a gold beetle, if it's too special for a beetle pet, it could be some kind of solar spirit beast. Without the file names, I would never have guessed it was to be a replacement for an existing skin.


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Vephriel wrote:
Wow, the new models are really gorgeous, I love the look of them. Much better details, good faces, more great attention to the undersides. But yet again, and I'm starting to feel like a broken record here, I wish the artists could like...actually look at the thing they're revamping and pay attention to colour choice.

I don't mean to sound so salty it's just getting really frustrating to me that they don't even seem to bother trying to uphold the appearance and colours of the originals. I haven't kept a lot of beetles over the course of my WoW time, but the blue scarab and the black and white one were my two favourites. The new scarab lacks that pretty blue colour the first one had, the indigo is dulled down to something closer to grey, and the black and white one, well, isn't even black anymore.


I'm right here with you- a gorgeous update model wise, and on their own the skins are quite nice, but- what... happened to them? The black and white was my absolute favorite and I used one frequently, but it looks so desaturated and foggy now there's no point in keeping him- all the appeal of the old skin is gone. :/

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I swear, Blizzard is going out of their way to ruin pets that perfectly match our transmogs. First my beautiful red spider, now this. D: The red and the black beetle skins look like they literally just swapped the colors around...

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Qraljar wrote:
It seems the legs on the mine spider model got fixed. That's good.
Now I just need the tarantula to have its chelicerae fixed in the idle animation.

I'd love this too, but my hopes aren't very high considering the models have always had that. I'd like to see the eagle model's broken leg fixed too, but...mmm. Not sure if they'll go back for small things like that. :/

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You never know. They fixed the mine spider, so there is hope that other things will be fixed :)


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I totally agree with you Vephriel. The scarabs looks amazing as an individual skin.. but not as remake of the original colors.. I feel so sorry for you guys :hug:

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Were is the green on the red one? It's like it's not even the same skin.

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I'll be honest; I LOVE the updated white/grey one, and all of the Uldum Scarabs got MASSIVELY improved. I'm a little saddened by the green and purple becoming green and blue, as I can't throw out GREEN AND PURPLE weed jokes anymore. Orange and blue looks like a fantastic new color, and the rest are fine. However, as others stated and have already pointed out every issue, the black one is totally wrong and the red and green got F'd the hell up. Those two need SERIOUS reworks because of how awful that is. They're good skins, but they are unacceptable replacements.

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Oh...
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Huh..........

I guess as stand alones, they would be amazingly, awesomely incredible. As replacements, however. Dear god. Blizz, please. You have wonderful artists; that is obvious. But perhaps they could look at what they are supposed to be updating and make it look a bit more like that.

I adored the green and red one. Seeing it changed to that does not make me happy. It looks like a project car with an amateur paint job.

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Haha, that red flames on "black" car is a perfect analogy.


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Yeah, as standalones I'd be thrilled. But you can't look at those and call them honest replacements for "red and green" or "black and white" scarabs.

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Equeon wrote:
Yeah, as standalones I'd be thrilled. But you can't look at those and call them honest replacements for "red and green" or "black and white" scarabs.


Pretty much how I feel too. I think the base model is an honest update, but those paint jobs... the colors don't look at all similar and those markings aren't even close. As Equeon said (and someone else earlier, sorry didn't see name), if these were standalone models or even like 'hey new scarabs but they've been painted by Zandalari or Blood trolls!' then I'd forgive the markings even. But replacements....?

Makes me just as displeased as the whole Karkin crab issue. But maybe even worse, because sorry, those replacements are not even in the ballpark of the original scarabs.

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Yeah tbh the few beetles I did like, I completely lost interest in due to the color changes. But the darker one--the violet/blackish beetle--I think that one looks really pretty.
At least these new models have at least succeeded in re-sparking my interests in older families. I will def go get a demon dog, since I always loved them but the old model got to me. However, I wish they kept their original animation. Their little hops used to always making me smile :(

Also maybe some of these color change bummers are blessings in disguise--I can clear my stables easier :lol:


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My tweet to the Q&A:

https://twitter.com/waynegwoods/status/ ... 96288?s=21

If anyone wants to tweet their own concerns (or post on the forum thread) please do so, and feel free to link them here so we can like them in support :)

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Very well said, Wain! I hooe that they will choose it as one of their questions :)


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I feel like the Q&A will ignore anything that doesn't already have an answer, just like last time. They skipped so many good questions, only answer things we had already known from earlier news and streams. The chance of them answering any question related to a hunter pet is extremely low, especially if they cherry pick questions to reinforce things we already knew.

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I think that's quite possible, but sometimes it can be useful to convey a concern, even if the chance of them addressing it publicly is not great.

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Good news, folks! The Corpse Scarabs in Naxxramas still use the old skin, and retain their unique little trail effect!

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On a sad note, however, the spiders that used to have unique sounds have been "defaulted" with their updated models. Terokkarantula, Shadra, Shadril, Darkmist Broodqueen and Queen Silith used to have crypt fiend sounds, and the rare Darkmist Widow used to have vanilla spider sounds (The Rock Stalkers in post-wound Silithus have yet to be tested, but I presume their sounds have been changed as well).

All of these, sans the Widow, used a different, generally larger "Spider Boss" model (barely noticeable ingame, but can be differentiated via WoW Model Viewer or Wowhead's "Same Model As" tab), which is why it saddens me even more to see them changed along with normal spiders. :(

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