Erwil is right. It's not pet feeding that's being removed, just the happiness component.erwil wrote:I thought you'll still be able to feed your pet to heal it up?Tyuriwen wrote:Oh no =( I loved the feeding animation, especially with my cats and my Devilsaur...chomp chomp chomp!!!
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LOL what we need to do is get a bunch of hunters with Seagulls.......and have them ALL attack a large target (Like Problim)....shades of an Alfred Hitchcock movie....Xakaal wrote:And the Devilsaurs get even bigger...
The Chimeras get wider...
The Seagulls become more fearsome..
PREPARE FOR BLOODTHIRSTY GIANT SEAGULLS! /quickly buys and embeds Glyph of Poportion into the back of her spellbook and casts Beastial Wrath
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I believe if you can believe out of nothing an explosion (big bang) happened then how far fetched can god be?
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I mean, it added a new level of depth to maintaining your pet. Like others have said, your pet may as well be a lock demon or even a freaking water elemental.
I'm sorry I'm kinda upset by this ;A;
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I also am stuck with a certain set of demons, a mage is stuck with a water elemental. Hunters can chose a huge variety of pets, and they are much more complex then a warlock's demon. They have not in anyway stooped to a level of a warlock demon or mage elemental or death knight ghoul, so I just can't see why people complain.
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Azunara wrote:[...]so I just can't see why people complain.
No offense meant to those of you handling it politely and rationally. ;PWoW Community wrote:IT'S A CHANGE! THE WORLD IS GOING TO END! BLIZZARD IS RUINING THE GAME! I QUIT MONTHS AGO RIFT IS SO MUCH BETTER! BLIZZARD NERFED THE GAME SO IT'S TOO EASY! BLIZZARD GIVES HUNTERS BASICALLY EVERYTHING AND THEN CHANGE AN OUTDATED SYSTEM EVERYONE PANIC
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This and the other comments on how they're turning into warlock pets, etc.Saturo wrote:This change kinda' sucks. I miss loyalty too, though. It made the pet feel like more than just something that follows you around and takes a beating on command. Now it's just a mindless buff-bot.
I AGREE!
Excuse me
Seriously though, if they're gonna make 'em robots in one way, then they have to un-robot them in another, or I'm gonna be sad
Like maybe, uhh... O_o;;
Well that's Blizz's problem!
EDIT: Looked at this, and no idea why but I found this funny:
Looks like one of those descriptions in animal shelters
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Happiness was the last remnant of an outdated mechanic that sorely needed to be taken out. Yes, in the beginning it seemed cool and fresh, but now it's unnecessary. WoW isn't Pokemon, or Tamagotchi Digimon, or those little "click my egg so it can hatch, then click my baby dragon so it eats and grows up" things. More is not always better, and streamlining is not always bad.
That being said, you know what Hunters do that no other pet/minion class in WoW does? They go out into the wild, choose which of the myriad beasts that roams the wilderness or lurks in the foreboding dungeons they want as their lifelong companion, and set about finding and taming it. Then they customize the creature as they wish with their Pet Talent points. Then they give it a glorious name. And then the hunter can go back out and find a companion for their new pet. Or two. Or ten. Or TWENTY-FIVE. That's a lot of beasties you can cuddle up with on a cold winter's night. And you can still feed your companion, but instead of making him happy it makes him healthy. What class comes close to all of that? The Warlock, who gets to have a grand total of FIVE look-a-like minions and two temporary guardians, and their relationship is less Old Yeller and more Southern Plantation Owner. To change their demons' names, Warlocks trade them in until they get what they want, like they were cheap cars. No Hunter worth her bow would do that to their pet, we even have Certificates that let us change our pet's name. And our pets fulfill nearly every support role in the game, so your entire stable can fulfill a role in a raid if you so desire.
Now on a personal note, Happiness was never a factor for my bond with my pets. My bond was forged from hunting for them, searching and waiting patiently, pulling strings and tagging along to find the really rare and hard-to-get ones. Terrorpene and King Krush were incredibly lucky chance encounters. I begged on Trade Chat until I got two total strangers who helped me tame Chromaggus, and then we defeated Nefarion immediately after. Nuramoc, Akariss and Loque'nahak were days, even weeks of patient waiting, searching, and hoping. The giddy joy I felt with each tame never diminished, every time it was like Christmas and I was 6 years old again. Just seeing them standing and running beside me, watching them charge at my foes while I covered them and healed them, taking them into raids and watching them tear into bosses with the other players, that is what makes me feel warm and proud.
Don't think of your pets as something less because the last remnant of an archaic system is finally being phased out. We still have all of the things that truly matter as Hunters. Let your love and passion for your companions remain strong and true.
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So... since Happiness is being removed (which is fine as far as I'm concerned)...
This leaves me with wondering what Bloodthirsty, Carrion Feeder, and Guard Dog are going to even do. Did they get taken out completely or do they have a new effect?
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Ive got a few reason why they arent
1. we find them in the wild to tame them, lock/mage pets come alot easier
2. we have pet families that have their own unique identities, including unique pets where people register the pet instantly. You do not see people saying omgosh I just got pwned by that stupid water elemental.. friggen pet! nope they say King krush just face rolled me in pvp
3. with mend pets glyph no matter what your pet was never unhappy, just hit mend pe,t happy pet, and even if its unhappy it wont runaway like it used to
4. we camp for a long long long time for our pets, we buy potions/gear pocket healers just to get a pet
5. we go into dungeons to get a pet
6. we can name our pet, our pet becomes that name. Ive never seen someone say Khaeernna is tanking something! nope its usually Airien (madexx) just tanked a boss, thats awesome! of course that very fact we can properly pronounce our pets name usually helps to..
Alot of our pets become special to the guild to, I know some people their guild doesnt want them to raid without taking this one special pet. Mages/locks/dks most of them do not care about their pets like we do, some I say do of course but most dont care less, while we on the other hand.. freak out if our pet dies. Pretty much in most situtuations if our pet dies.. we die.. mages/locks will most likely survive their ideal of running past a mob and getting dismounted. But we.. will die most of the time especially with our pet health glitch that when you summon it for some reason it goes to 10% health.. and gets one shotted. And detterence does not last long enough to revive your pet, you can only trap one, SS last a few seconds, and WS is surv spec only. And disengage needs a quicker cooldown... unfortunately it still doesnt help me so much when they intervene or mage blinks and just dances right on me while he laughs at me smacking him with a staff.. to being resorted to that makes me sad..
so in reality our pets are a huge part of being a hunter. So even without pet happiness its still our pet that was tamed/camped for, and we could have 25 cats but each would be unique in its own way to that hunter.. so I say its a nice change, spamming mend pet I do anyways lol.
thank you Ashaine and Kurenio!!!!
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What I mean by "robotic" is that they seem less life-like, which I know many people wouldn't care a bit about, but to me it added to the atmosphere of raising/training my pet and "growing up" with him. Also, although my main and most other characters aren't on a RP server, I do have a few lowbies (many of which are hunters) on RP servers, and the happiness system, although very easy to care for nowadays, still added to the RP fun.
I'll just miss it, that's all <--is hugging pet
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thank you Ashaine and Kurenio!!!!
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^ Exactly. And to quote Erwil & Kalliope, "It's not pet feeding that's being removed, just the happiness component." I'm all for this, and honestly, it's about time this was changed. I look forward to this and the auto-pet leveling (which I know many people are also up in arms about). I however, believe both changes are positive advantages. My thumbs up to you, Blizz.Ellaran wrote:The only one making your pet feel like it's turning into a soulless stat boost is YOU. Yes, YOU. By reacting like it's the end of the world because we no longer need to constantly monitor our pet's happiness and therefore damage, especially when it's practically automated anyways.
Don't think of your pets as something less because the last remnant of an archaic system is finally being phased out. We still have all of the things that truly matter as Hunters. Let your love and passion for your companions remain strong and true.
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Has the PTR closed yet?????? Heard through the rumor mill 4.1 is supposed to come tomorrow.
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So bring on the patch, bring on the new kitty skins, goodbye constant pet feeding/mending to keep happiness up - and welcome home, Daishar. You've been missed.
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