Advice on Potentional Animal Abuse
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Re: Advice on Potentional Animal Abuse
One would be to strike up a conversation with your new neighbor. Get a general idea of her as a person, what she does, etc. Then say something like "I noticed you have a dog, but keep it outside, is it house broken? It's really cute." see how that goes then maybe ask "does it have a medical condition? I noticed it doesn't have any food or water when it's in the kennel, I thought maybe it was on a restricted diet."
If she's a young owner she might just be learning how to be a dog owner, rather then assume the worst, try and see the situation, and maybe give some advice if she seem's open to that. It could just be that she is unaware of how the dog feels in it's kennel.
I feel that educating a person is a better first step then "your doing it wrong and I am going to call the authorities on you" approach.
Alternatively is the "I am going to call the authorities on you" approach, lol.
Call your local shelter or animal rescue and report what you have seen. Give them the information and if they deem it enough to act on then they can approach her. As for pictures, if you can take some without going onto her property, that would probably be better. (trespassing might be frowned on if further legal steps are taken).
I hope that it's just ignorance that is causing her to neglect her dog like that.
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I would agree on that she doesn't know how to look after a dog, if we hadn't kindly approached her and voiced our concerns. She just brushed us off like a brat. She doesn't take him seriously or seem to realize/care that another life depends on her. This dog isn't old either. He's a very young puppy. Currently she's been gone about 9 hours and left him outside. She just doesn't seem to care. The other night at 3 am he was still outside and he cried all night. I'm going to take pictures documenting that she doesn't provide him with sufficient water or food, which is illegal according to the state of Ohio, where I live. I will be home all day tomorrow and Saturday. If this continues, I will be making a call, and she will have to prove she can sufficiently care for him. Because I have no sympathies for someone who doesn't care about the suffering of her own animal.Castile wrote:It doesn't sound like abuse per say - just sounds like she's irresponsible or doesn't really know how to look after the dog. You can call the RSPCA or the equivilant in your country and ask them for advice. They can always come round and check to see if anything can/should be done. They don't usually say who complained so you can avoid nastiness with the neighbour that way too.
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And don't even get me started on her leaving him wearing a choke collar unsupervised....grrr.
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It's not just for animal cruelty, but for just about every other crime you can think of, too. Here's hoping that poor little guy gets some help soon.
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People like this need to be put in jail. Sadly, animal abuse laws are not strict enough.Melle wrote:Animal control never came. I called again. What I witnessed this time better get him taken away. She came home and took a pooper scooper out to clean his kennel. She'd be gone all day again. He was trying to jump up and like hug her because he was excited to see her after 11 hours. She kept hip checking him. Hard. Slamming into him and screaming no. Then she went to open the gate and go in the house. He was so excited to go into the house he raced to the front of the house and sat on the front porch. She chased him and screamed at him before picking him up and opening her car door. She hurled him inside so hard his head cracked into the window and he started crying as she slammed the door and yelled "Stupid ass dog. Sit there until I'm done." and then she went to finish cleaning his kennel. She took him inside but I looked at her and said "You shouldn't treat your dog like that. He just missed you." and she said "Mind your own business." HELL. NO. I just watched you abuse your dog. I called and told them that. They said they'd be out to check on him today. I hope she loses him. She doesn't deserve a dog.
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Probably yes, it was an anonymous tip so here's hoping they take him away or scare her into caring for him. Though I'd rather he be taken away. They told me over the phone if she figured it out and caused trouble I can report her for harassment.SylviaDragon wrote:Hope everything turns out ok for the little pup. If they do come and investigate/take him away best watch out. By now she can probably guess who blew the whistle on her and will be mad about it.
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Re: Advice on Potentional Animal Abuse
Dogs are viewed as property, not a living, breathing creature with feelings. We cannot take them from people even if they are not doing any of the above. Humane Officer's do not have that power. The owner's must surrender the animal to them in order for them to take the animal. If not, the Officer must go before a DJ and show all the proof in order to get any legal ability to seize the animal(s).
There are other ways to get her in trouble besides that, if for whatever reason they aren't able to get the dog away from her. Noise ordnance is one if the dog is out at night and barking a lot. That would have to go through your local police. Dog license or Rabies is another, but I'm sure the Animal Control Officers/Humane Officers will check that. Here in PA it is a 300$ fine if you don't have a current license.
I'm not a Humane Officer, but I work at a shelter that has two and I want to become one eventually. I take cruelty/neglect calls all the time so I've picked up a lot of it. I've also gone out with one of them on a hoarding situation in the past. Also, again.. this is Pennsylvania.
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No. No, no no no no.Ziroth wrote:or 2nd option just take it.
This will wind up with YOU in jail. I cannot stress this enough, never do this option. You'll do more harm than good.
Yes, the laws suck in some states. Yes, the animals more than likely don't deserve the treatment they are receiving. But if you break the law trying to help the animal by stealing it, you will compromise the investigation if there is one, or any validity in your complaints/accusations against the person. It just isn't good. The owner can turn around and go after you, and take you to court for trespassing and stealing their property.