People in alpha, what's your opinion on BM?
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However the issue with this new version of BM, is the way it interacts with Dire Beast. Every time you use Dire Beast it shaves off 15 seconds off your Bestial Wrath. If you use DB and then a second later wild call procs and you get another... you've just shaved 30 seconds off your Bestial Wrath and thats huge! And there lies within the problem, being it will only shave off this massive amount of time IF Bestial Wrath it's on cooldown. Therefore if you're not using Bestial Wrath every time it's on cooldown, you're potentially wasting a massive amount of cooldown shaved off your Bestial Wrath.
This simply boils down to don't think, don't forward plan, don't preempt when you need to burn something, just mindless push it when it's not on cooldown or you're wasting not just a little, but potentially a good chunk of DPS.
For me, doesn't this just puts us even further down the "Useful in raid group/raid setting" ladder? If you can't help burst something down when needed because "If I'm not BW'in on cooldown, I'm not playing my class/dpsing right" and "Oh sorry my only burst is on cooldown" then why bring a non dynamic, minimal utility offering, unadaptable DPS.
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They just ignored them.
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At this point BM is a BORING 3 button class.
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Currently marksman is for me a no go, nothing appeals to me about that spec.
Survival looks decent and plays decent, however i had more fun with other melee dps.
and Beast Mastery?
The biggest dissapointment in the world, i knew it would be bad, but not THIS bad.
Its boring, but looks nice, but easy. You have no real way of improving yourself. I know hunters are seen as the newbie class, but this is just wrong.
I hope we get some changes, like a builder and spender, (frenzy stacks) building it up with cobrashot/chim shot (that is mandatory to the spec not a talen) and then spend it on kill command or whatever
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Unfortunately there had been, many of them and a rather large selection of issues. I fear that many of the issues they did address simply revolved around Hati as its concept was rushed/incomplete and very very buggy. They've had such a head ache with it, the time spent on it would have likely been spent fixing other still very important issues.Valnaaros wrote:If there were more of these threads in Alpha or early Beta, Bliss probably would've done something.
Apart from Hati, the only thing that they really proactively responded to and fixed (per say) was that people were not happy with "Dire Zoo". Many hunters wanted one strong pet, not a summoning a zoo of them. So they replied, created and put Dire Frenzy on the same Tier as Chimera shot.
And that's it, that was the last we heard from them regarding anything actively changing hunter game play/issues. There have been a few number tweaks in patch notes, but while we are discussing BM specifically here, they have received almost zero.
If they had just posted once, just once, maybe saying something like "thanks for feedback, we are getting through it all, might take some time but we'll look into addressing concern raised." we would be fine, "Oh look they do care!" and the likes, but we've had nothing for so long, and it's leaving the community frustrated, but more so sacred that they are done.
I don't know. I don't really what to be the one running around screaming the sky is falling, but it doesn't even feel like we are in Kansas anymore and I can even keep Toto up with mend pet! I've loved BM for so many years, but after WoD, it's just.. not feeling BM anymore.
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Then again, we've seen so much feedback from plenty of others who didn't hold back, to no avail.
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But then there are also some really glaring bugs that haven't been fixed yet. That gives me hope that they still intend to go back to hunters and do some real work on them before release.
(And don't get me wrong, I really love the Hati transmog thing, but when there's still so many real issues with the class I'd choose function over form.)
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Not really optimistic, more a desperate hope and a feeling that I still need to give them the benefit of the doubt I could be saying that up to the day before release thoughNachtwulf wrote:You're way more optimistic than me, Wain, but I hope you're right.
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I'll hold you to thatWain wrote:I could be saying that up to the day before release though
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Wain wrote: But then there are also some really glaring bugs that haven't been fixed yet. That gives me hope that they still intend to go back to hunters and do some real work on them before release.
Same, but I won't lie. I'm beginning to lose hope. Most of the recent beta builds have not touched/tweaked BM in any significant or meaningful way. And from my personal testing, many of the same bugs and concerning issues regarding about BM are the same things I reported back when I got on the first day of beta.
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Wait.....Dire Frenzy and Chimera Shot are in the same tier??? You've got to be kidding me.SpiritBinder wrote: Apart from Hati, the only thing that they really proactively responded to and fixed (per say) was that people were not happy with "Dire Zoo". Many hunters wanted one strong pet, not a summoning a zoo of them. So they replied, created and put Dire Frenzy on the same Tier as Chimera shot.
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So much for any fixes for BM's myriad issues.
I guess Marks doesn't... look that bad... I guess.
At least the artifact doesn't look like ass.
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