WoW Petopia Community

WoWhead has compiled the list of questions/answers from today's Reddit AMA. There are some to do with Hunters:









P.S. Sorry if someone has already created this thread. I looked around and didn't find one. The rest of the question can be found following the link above.
Whatcha thing, guys?

Ew. Ew ew ew ew ew. Dire Frenzy is like, my least favourite BM talent right now (well, no... Legion version of Stampede is my least favourite, but luckily I never have to use that anymore whereas Dire Frenzy is looking like it's king this tier). I don't like guardians and Dire Beast is a horde of guardians, but tracking stacking buff durations is like, the least interesting game mechanic that practically every class has had to deal with. Keeping track of serpent sting was doable but in a raid there are too many buffs on your buff bar to track DF stacks without addons.

At least DF changed to not be an instant focus thing, because wasting all that focus every time I had to press it was awful, but ugh.

I miss ranged survival, and my ability to not care about BM as a result ;__;

(I don't really have a whole lot to say about the other bits; I preferred WoD LW to Legion LW, but I don't like MM's playstyle in either expansion so it doesn't affect me a whole lot either way.)

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Since they mentioned it in the druid section, the NPC DOES exist to use lunarwing flight form for lower level druid alts - she is sitting ON THE ROOF of one of the buildings in Moonglade. I thought she wasn't added at first, so idk if she was hotfixed in or I'm blind, but she's there. My level 100 druids could get the form, but I don't have any sub 100 to test it on.

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I'm with you about Dire Frenzy. I absolutely HATE DF. I fight with myself right now about using it bc I know it's the better talent right now, but I LOATHE that play style. I actually really like having a ton of Dire Beasts, but even if I wasn't, I still hate the feel of Dire Frenzy. I hope it remains a talent and never baseline. Or if it does, I better be able to talent out of it.

I know it's supposed to be reminiscent of Focus Fire that we used to have, but FF or whatever it was called felt way better than Dire Frenzy stacks. DF just never feels rewarding to me

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So it wasn't just me that felt like the response was from someone who didn't have a really good handle on what Hunters want, while claiming they play one. It seems to have become a theme . The class may be becoming competitive as far as dps goes, but for many people here that isn't the issue and it's more about it being enjoyable, which is most certainly is not for so many of us. Thank gods for cool pets, as they've been our only saving grace.

Honestly, the only thing they could have done in the AMA that I would have had any respect for is if they'd admitted they were arrogant in thinking they could recode all classes in one expansion cycle, that they fucked up badly, and they apologized for posioning everyone's experience of what is otherwise a great xpac with a recode nobody wanted. But that was never going to happen.

Yes, I'm still that annoyed.

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Shaman avatar by Spiritbinder.

I'm glad they're thinking about a different approach to the Lone Wolf talent for MM. Currently, for any sort of challenging content, minus PvP for sac and mw, I have to go without a pet because I lose just that much DPS in all situations. Trade off is not worth it, really. In my opinion, the whole first row of MM talents is.... unsatisfying, to say the least. If Careful Aim (Aimed Shot, Arcane Shot, Marked Shot, and Multi-Shot have 20% increased critical strike chance against targets above 80% Health, and those critical strikes deal an additional 30% damage over 8 sec.) did not increase Crit chance and flatly provided bleed on crits throughout the fight, there might have been a worthy opponent to LW, but as of now the Lone Wolf talent is overturned (and intentionally so!).

Sorta sad that they did not mention anything about MM class design - would have liked to see pretty much anything. The stance on Vulnerable which is almost a glorified Hunter's Mark at this point, why incorporating original Survival talents into MM failed so badly and what they're going to do about it, but alas. Same with pets - wasn't Muffinus hinting at something to do with pets way back? Like, we know that half the families don't even have an ability of their own and consider it? Disappointing to see that they're still at the drawing board with it.



https://twitter.com/Muffinus/status/804517766568910848

I like Dire Frenzy and I sort of like the idea of BM juggling buffs for the pet and themselves (sorta like old Focus Fire), but the real question is - how would it look mechanically. I liked the idea of two pets and WoD-time Dire Beast and we've seen where it came to.

Survival's answer was pretty much "There, there"

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Another question / answer about Hunters:

Continuation of female Blood Elf animation thing (which I find atrocious):



To which the original poster also submitted a couple of pictures:
https://imgur.com/uylkby9
https://i.imgur.com/59hrxq0.gifv

Another brought up concern was bowstring cutting through the character:
http://imgur.com/a/yp5Z1

Them specifically mentioning battle res as if it's a negative worries me. So many useful petskills have been removed already.
I really wish we could just pick the pet skill like we pick the pet spec. There are so many pets I just don't bother with because they don't get anything useful.

Yeah tbh, I felt like that comment about playing one was just thrown in there randomly. I sincerely doubt any of them play Hunter, or at least not BM hunter. If they did, I feel like we wouldn't have spent a year (since beta) complaining about the pet UI/targeting/pathing issues, Hati issues (ALL OF THEM), and the entire 7.1 PTR til 7.2.5 explaining why the legendary shoulders should've been made baseline. Like the fact they said 'oh we play Hunter!' made me think of those kind of scenarios:

"How was school today?"

"I didn't break the window, I swear!"

Yeah, if they actually played Hunter, they wouldn't have let these issues go on. So I'm calling bogus on that comment lol

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* fidgets * I've re-read the Hunter-oriented answers after a break to let the feelings settle, and I'm disappointed all over again
The power of my butthurt is almost strong enough to transfer the united armies of Azeroth over to Argus without the Sargerite Keystone.

First and foremost, BM. While I think the idea with Cobra Shot and its interaction with Kill Command is solid, the wording about 8.0 feels like the current abomination design of a spec will press on into the next expansion. This is quite unsettling. The answer does not mention whether we go full Zookeeper or remain with one trusty companion, only time will tell. The AMA states:



Hmnn... I think I have heard this line somewhere before. Oh, yeah. Legion class / specs previews, Hunter edition. To quote the part about BM:



At that, it is quite obvious that MoP/WoD BM and Legion BM have a world of difference (and years of class design) laying between them. I'm baffled as to why Blizzard is trying to re-invent the wheel if BM was already in a good place overall, then they made it a worse place, and now they're trying to claw back to what was from another direction. It is seen, for example, in Cobra Shot design philosophy changing again. The AMA quote:



Hmn. Interesting. So, spammed abilities feel much better when they push resource. Sort of like the old Cobra Shot did, then? And it would be nice if BMs had a reason to use it more? Almost like, I dunno, filling up next to all free moments in combat to not have the terrible waiting for proc game?

Back to the Legion preview!



Time to get some coffee to not burn the chair over MM and Surv

While I do like (not love, like) playing sv right now (and mm 'meme build' too kinda), this (in bold) is pretty much my issue. I have had fun with every iteration of Boomkin since MoP when I joined. I don't think Boomie's are perfect, but I consistently have fun playing mine. The only reason I have so many hunters is the varieties of pets I can grab and the rather open-endedness of hunter 'lore', but these things are largely aesthetic and don't translate into good combat mechanics and stuff. That said, I don't really do hunter stuff at a high skill level and never really have, so I can't really be more specific - just give my general feelings. I've never enjoyed BM since I started playing. I only play BM on alts for exotic pets. I'd like to actually like it, one day.

All that said, even if I can't give detailed feedback, lots of people do, and it makes me terribly sad to see my peers so ignored. I think the dev team has made strides in better communication, but at the same time other issues just go untouched, even ones that aren't controversial. It's frustrating.

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Yeah, that concerns me too. I have a feeling we will see those two abilities gone for hunters. They were a bit more balanced when pets could bring lots of other buffs, but now that they can't, brez and lust are just... really good. I'm going to guess they don't see hunters as a class that should inherently have those abilities and don't want to just give them to a ton of pets so we see more than core hounds and quilen. This is all conjecture though, of course.

I'm so sad that so many pets are without a special ability right now.

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A big part of hunters having any group utility right now is our flexibility in what buffs or effects we can bring- The obviously preferable answer would be to expand the currently available options (Lust, Brez, MS, etc.) across the rest of the available families, instead of removing anything.

I am afraid that we'll end up losing something, though.

The possibility of losing what little pet utility we have is scary :\

I hope the AMA post was not negative ("gotta prune Core Hounds / Quillens so Hunters will stop whining about other pets being useless"), but positive ("gotta buff other pets so Hunters would stop whining about Core Hounds and Quillen being only useful pets").

Honestly? At this point I would take either, just as long as it's consistent. If I bring zero utility to a raid (because misdirect as BM is so utterly worthless), so be it. I'm tired of core hounds and nether rays and cranes and moths and quilen. I want to be able to use my sporebat and not get yelled at because the other hunter (who actually has a nether ray out because he genuinely enjoys nether rays) forgot to hero on pull.

I would obviously prefer to keep the utility, but pet utility that's tied to specific types of pets will always be inherently unbalanced and will favour some types of pets over others. Not in every situation, but you'll still find yourself choosing pets based on utility vs personal preference.

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To be clear, I too do not like seeing such disparity in the utility of pets. I just have a feeling the solution will be to gut them all rather than actually add some extra spells for pets without any. Maybe I'm just jaded.

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funk#1402

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#GIVEWOLVESLUST

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Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

Ha. I'm the one who asked about the female BE bow animation. The response was very disappointing. They pretty much said it was fixed. It's not. At all. My salt level on that subject is overflowing.