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I wonder if it has anything to do with bigger models in general. I've been curious why we haven't seen any new devilsuar skins for a long while now and they were quick to say no to taming the yaks.
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Bulletdance wrote:I wonder if it has anything to do with bigger models in general. I've been curious why we haven't seen any new devilsuar skins for a long while now and they were quick to say no to taming the yaks.
I don't believe so. It may seem they were quick to discount yaks, but I have reason to believe that's not the case. I think it's just that by the time that yak accidentally became tameable they'd already made up their minds on which families they were going with so they were quick to fix it. Unlike when silkworms had accidentally become tameable some time earlier.
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In all fairness, if they are not going to let all of us tame hydras, they should remove the hydras from those who have them. That would take care of "but they have a family and ability and everything give us hydras cause you made them a family" argument as well as the "fairness" argument. Turn em into white crocolisks and call it a day. *shrug* I don't think there should be a family just for people who were lucky enough to be playing then, be the right level, know about the glitch and have the daily in time.
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Teigan wrote:In all fairness, if they are not going to let all of us tame hydras, they should remove the hydras from those who have them. That would take care of "but they have a family and ability and everything give us hydras cause you made them a family" argument as well as the "fairness" argument. Turn em into white crocolisks and call it a day. *shrug* I don't think there should be a family just for people who were lucky enough to be playing then, be the right level, know about the glitch and have the daily in time.
this is probably the worst idea i have heard. Grandfathered pets are a tradition that has all but died out since Wrath. And alot of us that do have the hydras love them like all our other pets. to mess with them is to mess with our passion for the beasts. just leave em as is and all would be perfect having more tameable would just be a bonus.
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Teigan wrote:In all fairness, if they are not going to let all of us tame hydras, they should remove the hydras from those who have them. That would take care of "but they have a family and ability and everything give us hydras cause you made them a family" argument as well as the "fairness" argument. Turn em into white crocolisks and call it a day. *shrug* I don't think there should be a family just for people who were lucky enough to be playing then, be the right level, know about the glitch and have the daily in time.
May as well at this rate. :/ Not fair to those of us who didn't know about the glitch or weren't high enough at the time. Either make them all tameable or take the special hydras away. Best to be fair.

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Alternately, turn them back into confused crocolisks that look like hydras (still not really fair) and take away their special family. Why have an untameable family? The slimes, which are in the same category to me, don't have a special family. They're crocolisks. By creating a family for them, they gave everyone false hope and then let them down without a word of explanation.
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Teigan wrote:Alternately, turn them back into confused crocolisks that look like hydras (still not really fair) and take away their special family. Why have an untameable family? The slimes, which are in the same category to me, don't have a special family. They're crocolisks. By creating a family for them, they gave everyone false hope and then let them down without a word of explanation.
Agreed. I'm depressed I'll never get to tame Gahzrilla. ;-;

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Zangor wrote:
Teigan wrote:In all fairness, if they are not going to let all of us tame hydras, they should remove the hydras from those who have them. That would take care of "but they have a family and ability and everything give us hydras cause you made them a family" argument as well as the "fairness" argument. Turn em into white crocolisks and call it a day. *shrug* I don't think there should be a family just for people who were lucky enough to be playing then, be the right level, know about the glitch and have the daily in time.
this is probably the worst idea i have heard. Grandfathered pets are a tradition that has all but died out since Wrath. And alot of us that do have the hydras love them like all our other pets. to mess with them is to mess with our passion for the beasts. just leave em as is and all would be perfect having more tameable would just be a bonus.
Agreed. And they've said that they MAY make them tamable in the future once the model has been worked on--no promises, but Blizzard has learned not to make those often.
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Teigan wrote:In all fairness, if they are not going to let all of us tame hydras, they should remove the hydras from those who have them. That would take care of "but they have a family and ability and everything give us hydras cause you made them a family" argument as well as the "fairness" argument. Turn em into white crocolisks and call it a day. *shrug* I don't think there should be a family just for people who were lucky enough to be playing then, be the right level, know about the glitch and have the daily in time.
That's kind of harsh, don't you think? I would never want someone's pet taken away from them just because I don't have it. At least the fact that a few lucky hunters have Hydras gives hope that maybe one day they'll be available to everyone. Taking them away from those who do wouldn't do anything but punish a few to make another few feel better. Terrible idea and very selfish, IMO.
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I don't have one and I don't think taking them away will help at all.

I don't know how to fix the situation, but taking them away is silly. :(
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Sesamee wrote:
Teigan wrote:In all fairness, if they are not going to let all of us tame hydras, they should remove the hydras from those who have them. That would take care of "but they have a family and ability and everything give us hydras cause you made them a family" argument as well as the "fairness" argument. Turn em into white crocolisks and call it a day. *shrug* I don't think there should be a family just for people who were lucky enough to be playing then, be the right level, know about the glitch and have the daily in time.
That's kind of harsh, don't you think? I would never want someone's pet taken away from them just because I don't have it. At least the fact that a few lucky hunters have Hydras gives hope that maybe one day they'll be available to everyone. Taking them away from those who do wouldn't do anything but punish a few to make another few feel better. Terrible idea and very selfish, IMO.
I don't see how its selfish. Sure, it would be fun to have a hydra. It'd be fun to have a lot of things but I'm hardly emotionally invested in the issue. Its simply one fix to a problem Blizz got into with the hydras. Its somewhat harsh but it would neatly sew things up.
And its not a punishment. It wouldn't be the first glitch pet to be changed or removed. I would feel bad for hunters who lost their hydras, but, they were glitch pets from the start and its surprising they allowed them to keep them in the first place.
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Teigan wrote:
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Teigan wrote:In all fairness, if they are not going to let all of us tame hydras, they should remove the hydras from those who have them. That would take care of "but they have a family and ability and everything give us hydras cause you made them a family" argument as well as the "fairness" argument. Turn em into white crocolisks and call it a day. *shrug* I don't think there should be a family just for people who were lucky enough to be playing then, be the right level, know about the glitch and have the daily in time.
That's kind of harsh, don't you think? I would never want someone's pet taken away from them just because I don't have it. At least the fact that a few lucky hunters have Hydras gives hope that maybe one day they'll be available to everyone. Taking them away from those who do wouldn't do anything but punish a few to make another few feel better. Terrible idea and very selfish, IMO.
I don't see how its selfish. Sure, it would be fun to have a hydra. It'd be fun to have a lot of things but I'm hardly emotionally invested in the issue. Its simply one fix to a problem Blizz got into with the hydras. Its somewhat harsh but it would neatly sew things up.
And its not a punishment. It wouldn't be the first glitch pet to be changed or removed. I would feel bad for hunters who lost their hydras, but, they were glitch pets from the start and its surprising they allowed them to keep them in the first place.
I think the selfishness comes into play because he's saying since I can't have one now, they shouldn't have one either, not because they should be removed because they are glitched.

I was mad jealous when I missed out on taming the spirit wolf, but I never thought the people who had them should loose them even if they had some animation issues. Several years later I ended up getting one as a spirit beast which worked even better for me.

It is one thing to say this pet is causing issues it should be removed, it is something else entirely to say because they aren't adding this pet to the game this expansion anyone with a grandfathered pet should lose them. That's just mean in my opinion.

Edit: As far as the claims to fairness goes. I think you'll who think taking hydras away from people is fair need to look up the meaning of the word fair.
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As someone who was lucky enough to get a Hydra, I am shocked and quite disappointed that they arent making them tamable. (Shenanigans wants friends :( ) When I tamed my Hydra..I expected him to go the way of the worgen pet, or others. I expected him to be changed to a croc but I would enjoy him while it lasts. But their reason baffles me. I mean..I kinda like their waddle <_< Yea I guess it wasnt meant to be spead up. But the models arent that bad imo.

But do I think they will remove them? Not really. I mean, it would be like them taking away the original ghostwolf from the people who had it. It wasnt supposed to happen, but it did. THEY goofed, not us..
While yes that could apply to the fire puddle and worgen pets as well and the oozes that were tamable with the Hydra bug, it's a little different.

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Yes, the fire puddle was an exploit (untargetable) and the worgen was... socially unacceptable (player race).

Hydras and ghost wolves (while I missed out on BOTH of them by being too low level, by a matter of a week or two, grr) are just glitch pets... basically the same as the oil wolf or the sword-head worg. If they take away hydras, then what's stopping them from removing the others too? (Well, besides the furious screams of hundreds of angry hunters.)

No, I'll just sit here and stew until they give them to us. Or continue to gripe about why they DID finally give us basilisks and then gave them a worthless family skill. (I am using some anyway because... well. Basilisks. But I have the family skill turned off, which when you think about it makes it kind of dumb...)

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If the ghost hydras were going to be taken away from their owners, it would have been done a looooong time ago.

My guess is that the team is just delaying the inevitable addition of the family at large, due to the aforementioned model issues, but knowing that they'll have to do it at some point because hey, the precedent's been set.

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Hydra/Slime/Ghost Croc are not cheat pets. They are glitch pets, but they arent wrongfully exploited pets. They were mistakes by Blizzard that went unnoticed when they hit live. If Blizz thought these were wrong they would of removed them years ago from players. The worgen/wolf pet IMO was too closely related to the druid incident where players could tame druids. The NPC that was borked was humanoid first, beast second out of principle. It was a worgen disguising itself as a wolf. It was and always will be humanoid but its gameplay classification was beast. Even if we didnt get worgens in Cata, it would of still been changed and removed because it was a humanoid.

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I consider a tame 'exploit' only if it requires going above and beyond hitting 'Tame Beast,' in addition to being unintended. Otherwise, it's just a glitch.

Not condemning anyone by that, I should note, because I have a ghost wolf, and it took me four hours straight (with a VERY patient shammy friend) to get him.
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Glad something was finally said about it; would be neat if they implemented the funky tame for those who couldn't get one at the time, doubtful though.
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Yeah. If you take away Ghost Hydra, you might as well take away all sparkle unnatural buff pets folks have while we're at it. Oh and ghost wolves. Can't have those either. Playing the I-Can't-Have-It-And-I-Won't-Get-It-So-No-One-Can card is awfully immature, I have to say. I'm sorry you missed out. A lot of people did. You weren't at the right place at the right time. Additionally, hydras are somewhat feasibly tamable possibly in the future.

Worgen and flamepatchs are "pets" that were never, ever, ever meant to belong to a hunter ever. EVER. They could not have grand fathered those pets in. They were not remotely beast like. One was a feral humanoid that had armor was going to become a playable race. One is a frikking floor texture. -Floor. Texture.- Hydras can become tamable in the future, you don't know yet. Clamouring for people to have their nice things taken away seems awfully selfish.
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Azunara wrote:Yeah. If you take away Ghost Hydra, you might as well take away all sparkle unnatural buff pets folks have while we're at it. Oh and ghost wolves. Can't have those either. Playing the I-Can't-Have-It-And-I-Won't-Get-It-So-No-One-Can card is awfully immature, I have to say. I'm sorry you missed out. A lot of people did. You weren't at the right place at the right time. Additionally, hydras are somewhat feasibly tamable possibly in the future.

Worgen and flamepatchs are "pets" that were never, ever, ever meant to belong to a hunter ever. EVER. They could not have grand fathered those pets in. They were not remotely beast like. One was a feral humanoid that had armor was going to become a playable race. One is a frikking floor texture. -Floor. Texture.- Hydras can become tamable in the future, you don't know yet. Clamouring for people to have their nice things taken away seems awfully selfish.
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