More BM artifact variants
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Nope. I happen to love it, though I like some of the alternate color schemes more than others.HunterFTW wrote:I must be the only person that likes the Guns.
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This is a very good point concerning the fantasy of the gun's story/design. Instead of the Techno-Magic angle, shouldn't a gun for Beast Masters revolve around the beasts they master? Some variants could be adorned with trophy skulls, but other variants could have design based on the spirit and silhouette of beasts, like a Spirit Beast.HunterFTW wrote:... I will be vary happy if I see a skin that matches Spirit beasts
But instead we get magic robot titan gun for beast masters. I wish I could make sense of it. It feels like they came up with an idea they liked (and I don't mind the story in-and-of itself) but then had to force it on hunters somewhere.
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I would had prefer the design based on exotic beasts; Chimeara, Corehound, Quillen, Shale Spider, Devilsaur, Rhino/Clefthoof etcQuiv wrote:This is a very good point concerning the fantasy of the gun's story/design. Instead of the Techno-Magic angle, shouldn't a gun for Beast Masters revolve around the beasts they master? Some variants could be adorned with trophy skulls, but other variants could have design based on the spirit and silhouette of beasts, like a Spirit Beast.HunterFTW wrote:... I will be vary happy if I see a skin that matches Spirit beasts
But instead we get magic robot titan gun for beast masters. I wish I could make sense of it. It feels like they came up with an idea they liked (and I don't mind the story in-and-of itself) but then had to force it on hunters somewhere.
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I'm really agree here too, they have made how many new forms for druid bears and cats, if they had gone down a similar Vein for BM hunters I'd would have loved that.Quiv wrote:This is a very good point concerning the fantasy of the gun's story/design. Instead of the Techno-Magic angle, shouldn't a gun for Beast Masters revolve around the beasts they master? Some variants could be adorned with trophy skulls, but other variants could have design based on the spirit and silhouette of beasts, like a Spirit Beast.HunterFTW wrote:... I will be vary happy if I see a skin that matches Spirit beasts
But instead we get magic robot titan gun for beast masters. I wish I could make sense of it. It feels like they came up with an idea they liked (and I don't mind the story in-and-of itself) but then had to force it on hunters somewhere.
But then problems arise. Unless they just add auras/effects to your pet of choice (which by all means would be awesome) All BM hunters would be forced to use the one family type (all feral Druids are cats, so they can make a collection of awesome cat variants with no worry) So if they picked a wolf as the "artifact" it would most likey upset anyone who prefers one of the many other families.
If they added auras/effects to your current pet as I mentioned, well then BM would not have a shiny New Model and then others would feel let down, missing out.
Other issue is that we still HAVE to use a weapon in conjunction with out pet (feral Druids BEING the weapon, this in not an issue) So then what do they assign us? If they are giving bows to windrunner themed MM, I guess Guns are just more iconic than Crossbows ingane, though there are some awesome cross bow options.
My personal choice... Sure make it Gun, but have other skins that are crossbows. There are some artifacts that change from looking very similar to swords, to glaives, to fist weapons all from the one artifact.
A gun and mechanical repeating crossbow are not completley dissimilar. They have a lot more in common than a crossbow and bow. They're used/held in a similar fashion, use triggers to fire, etc.
And lastly, for a little flavor, maybe certain guns/crossbow skins could also add a visual effect to you current pet.
Eg. Let's say there is a Electic themed crossbow, once your pet start attacking its claws/paw/beak/what ever gets an electrical charged visual on them for a short duration after they attack?
It would be so tricky to make everyone happy, but I totally get it (I like guns, but the idea of being locked to one for new visuals for an entire expansion makes me pretty darn sad) I'm just glad I'm not in the designers shoes trying to get it right.
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I like them. I'm not fond of big flashy guns, I'm using the crafted level 2 model for mine now. I was using the trailseeker model before that (from a quest in STV). I kind of wish the elekk gun model didn't have the skull draped over it. IIRC, the most popular gun xmog is wolfslayer sniper rifle, from kara. I guess the trick is to make a model that isn't over the top, but still looks polished. I'm probably going to go with the first model, since it doesn't have a perma-laser on it.HunterFTW wrote:I must be the only person that likes the Guns.
And I absolutely associate guns with BM. I've only ever played BM on Xota, and she's only ever used guns. I didn't even fire a single arrow or crossbow bolt when you had to level weapon skills (I did max throwing though). I only equipped a bow after xmog came out. And I also copied the old gun sounds over so I don't have to suffer through my weapon whispering all the time. I like the ratatat-tat.
I get why other people like bows. Guns just don't feel right for some characters, just like bows just don't feel right for mine. But I think it's specious to say that guns don't fit BM, and fish for reasons like it would scare away pets. It's sufficient to want to be able to customize your own character, and that's the major downside to artifacts. Artifacts pigeonhole characters based on spec, not on character. And for people who want a different weapon type, they'll go a whole expansion without contemporary weapon art, in an expansion where weapon customization is supposed to be a key feature.
Also, I don't like the druid feral forms. They have weird stripes and a mane. I guess at least they don't have cow horns, but I just want to be a panther.
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Totally agree with that; the current gun models don't seem to have any connection to our pets, save the abilities, and BM is all about pets. Given that BM is the only one with the ability to tame Exotic beasts, then making a connection between pets and weapons could be through Exotics.pop wrote:I would had prefer the design based on exotic beasts; Chimeara, Corehound, Quillen, Shale Spider, Devilsaur, Rhino/Clefthoof etcQuiv wrote:This is a very good point concerning the fantasy of the gun's story/design. Instead of the Techno-Magic angle, shouldn't a gun for Beast Masters revolve around the beasts they master? Some variants could be adorned with trophy skulls, but other variants could have design based on the spirit and silhouette of beasts, like a Spirit Beast.HunterFTW wrote:... I will be vary happy if I see a skin that matches Spirit beasts
But instead we get magic robot titan gun for beast masters. I wish I could make sense of it. It feels like they came up with an idea they liked (and I don't mind the story in-and-of itself) but then had to force it on hunters somewhere.
Here are two ideas that could possibly fit, and a bow slightly similar to the base gun, plus cobras A steel Devilsaur head and a Spirit Beast emanating gun, like the shaman shoulders from DS
A double barrel gun with two Core Hound or Chimaera heads would probably look good
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Very nice! This is exactly what I was referring to, weapons that have the spirit and silhouette of beasts since that is the core of our fantasy.Araucaria wrote:Here are two ideas that could possibly fit, and a bow slightly similar to the base gun, plus cobrasA steel Devilsaur head and a Spirit Beast emanating gun, like the shaman shoulders from DS
A double barrel gun with two Core Hound or Chimaera heads would probably look good
There are examples in game of items that also have beast flavor. Like mentioned, we already have examples of this with the (ironically) shaman shoulders from Icecrown Citadel and Dragon Soul. The spirit version of beast appears around them every now and then. Not every gun has to be a skull, but they could have done a lot with the spirit/nature/silhouette of beasts in their weapon design, instead of titan ray gun from the future.
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The best example of an elven looking gun (I know of) is:
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Seriously, it's like... Artifacts by Dyson(tm)
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well, they DO suck.Nachtwulf wrote:I just wish they didn't all look like a vacuum cleaner with a stock on the end.
Seriously, it's like... Artifacts by Dyson(tm)
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Sukurachi wrote:well, they DO suck.Nachtwulf wrote:I just wish they didn't all look like a vacuum cleaner with a stock on the end.
Seriously, it's like... Artifacts by Dyson(tm)
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Sukurachi wrote:well, they DO suck.Nachtwulf wrote:I just wish they didn't all look like a vacuum cleaner with a stock on the end.
Seriously, it's like... Artifacts by Dyson(tm)
Omg! I <3 you both! XD
But for real, I don't really like any of these skins. I'm so used to using a bow and I don't much like the sound effect of guns. They'll have to come up with something better (for my personal tastes) before I switch to it.
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I'm doing the same or probably going with that cool gun from Karazhan.Nimrod wrote:I'll be glad I'll finally be able to transmog it to Lohn'goron. CSRs have refused to replace that quest reward for the past four years - finally be able to use it with Legion, though.
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