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 Post subject: BfA Pet Bug List
Unread postPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:02 pm 
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Here's a list of known (or suspected) bugs related to hunter pets in BfA. Do you have any to add?

I. Miscellaenous Bugs

Potentially serious bugs
  • Bonescreamer (140699) is a tameable black ravasaur that is only present during (and is the object of) a Horde skinning profession quest: Lost But Not Forgotten. It has been reported as becoming periodically invisible to its owner and unable to be dismissed, as well as invisible to other players. Because of the latter it could possibly become an exploit in PvP, though this is untested. Reference thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25561

Missing Family Abilities
  • Two pet families are missing their special ability: Direhorns (Gore) and Basilisks (Petrifying Gaze).

Attack speed variation
  • It’s been noticed that pets are now retaining pre-tame attack speeds after taming. According to people who theorycraft this kind of thing there isn’t currently any noticeable difference in dps, but I’m mentioning it because it could become significant if the mechanics change. Reference thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25519

Iron Juggernaut level/taming issues
  • Since BfA, the four iron juggernauts you can create and tame in SoO always appear level 120, instead of the player's level. So they can't be tamed before 120 and are wasted. Reference thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25600

Animation bugs
  • It appears that the new bee model has an animation glitch when idle that is distracting enough to cause hunters to avoid using them. It has been described as an unnatural bobbing up and down, as if it "goes from idle standing to walking animation but it's still standing". Reference thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25599

Skin / texture errors on model
  • The two new raven skins -raven2_black and raven2_white (but not the original from Legion) have patches missing that result in some glaring texture issues with their backs. Reference thread: viewtopic.php?f=60&t=25614.

Void stalker family – wrong spec?
  • The voidstalker starter pet given to Void Elves has its own one-pet family, but in practice it has otherwise been kept identical to regular warp stalkers. However it appears that the Void Stalker family has been classed as Cunning, while all other Warp Stalkers are Tenacity. We don't know if this is intentional or a mistake.

Wrong skins - definite mistake
  • Lava Scarab (47079) was mistakenly updated from silithidscarabskinred to uldumscarab2skinred (which, despite the name, is green!). It should have been to silithidscarab2skinred.
  • Coppertooth Pup (138316) (draenor wolf model) has an error in one of its skins. One is a regular brown skin, but the other is a mount skin, and so the pup has odd bands on random parts of its body, that on the mount would represent saddle straps. Essentially it should be using "wolfdraenorrusticyellow" but seems to have accidentally been set to "wolfdraenormountrusticyellow". It could also possibly be switched to the wolf pup model that uses the same skins, as it might be more fitting for the pups here. This NPC has never been tameable so there's no risk of a hunter ending up with a pet puppy.
  • Karkin (50959) was mistakenly switched to the updated skin crab2_diamond (pale blue gem) instead of the proper updated skin - crab2_darkdiamond_default

Size
  • Many toads are still tiny after taming, e.g. Croaker (140938). Please let me know of others so we can document all models which are too tiny.
  • Are any bees still too small?

Wrong portrait
  • Nothing serious, but two saurolisks have trogg portraits after being tamed. This is because they had trogg riders before taming (the trogg falls off and dies when tamed) and the NPC seems to have been treated as a trogg, despite the saurolisk beast being the primary model. They are: Mugg (127290) and Grimestone Handler (127203).

Shouldn't be tameable, but is currently
  • Encrusted Kingscuttler (138896) is in Island Expeditions and shouldn't be tameable. Taming it actually halts progress of the scenario until it's dismissed. This is the only tameable IE NPC that we know of.
  • The Big One (136561) and The Big One (127666) aren't tameable in practice but are flagged tameable and perhaps shouldn't be, since they're both (presumably) instances of Jani, the Trash Loa :)
  • Coati (131704) is flagged tameable but probably shouldn't be, since it's the pet of an NPC hunter. It's level 122 so can't be tamed yet anyway.


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II. Wrongly-classified creatures

Beasts wrongly classified as Humanoids or Elementals

Birds wrongly classified as Carrion Birds - should be switched to Birds of Prey
Falcons, parrots and sea birds are normally classified as Birds of Prey
**Note: Brinebeak Hatchling is supposed to be the young of Nestmother Acada (which was originally an albatross but was changed in late Beta to be a vulture), so perhaps it should remain a Carrion Bird, but be changed to use the vulture version of the model.

Birds wrongly classified as Birds of Prey - should be switched to Carrion Birds
Ravens and condors are usually classified as Carrion Birds
**Note: it's likely a mistake that the Mountain Hawk from Stormsong uses the condor model, and it is quite likely a placeholder that was meant to have been switched to the 'birdsofprey' model once it was introduced. In which case it should stay a Bird of Prey, but change to the new model.

Wasps wrongly classified as Silithids - should be switched to Wasps
Even though wasps are part of silithid hives, they have always been classified as Wasps, not Silithids

Maybe should be Critters, or their models changed?
  • Glitterlight Flitter (130681) in Atal'Dazar uses the critter moth model (so has rough, chunky wings) but is classified as a beast. Unsure if it should be reclassified as a critter or the model switched to the hi-res one.
  • Toad beasts using critter model: Roughback Leaper (120572) and Speckled Bullfrog (136475) are classified as beasts, but use the low-res (critter quality) 'toadswamp' model and are tiny. They should probably use the higher-res 'toadloa_small' model, which is still smaller than the model used for the loa but presumably seems meant for wild beasts.

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III. Possible wrong models

Miscellaneous
  • Mountain Hawk (135632) (possibly also ID 136311) in Stormsong Valley is a Bird of Prey using the old condor model (meant for carrion birds) but was probably meant to use the new birdofprey / hawk model, e.g. one of these
  • Brinebeak Hatchling (139253) is supposed to be the young of Nestmother Acada (which was originally an albatross but was changed in late Beta to be a vulture). It's still an albatross, so perhaps it should also be changed to use the vulture version of the model, with maybe the white or brown vulture skin.
  • The pair of Brinebeak Albatrosses (136914) that follow Nestmother Acada, as if they're her minions, perhaps should also be changed to use the vulture version of the model, since she's no longer an albatross.
  • Juvenile Thumpknuckle (130512) is meant to be a young gorilla, but it's using the monkey model (complete with tail!) and is in the Gorilla family when tamed. It should probably use the new gorilla model. Suggestion: perhaps without the beard (note: with the new gorilla model the beard geoset can be optionally switched off!)
  • Two ravasaurs in Nazmir - the Scrounger Patriarch (127873) and Scrounger Youngling (127870) are almost certainly using the wrong model and should probably be using the new ravasaur model. Instead, they're using the Draenor-era raptor model, which was probably a placeholder until the new ravasaur was ready. The other Scrounger raptors in their tribe use the new ravasaur model, just those two didn't get switched.
  • Bore Worm (68221) was the only old larva that wasn't updated to the new larva2 model. It wasn't tameable, but worth noting that it seems to have been missed.
  • Glitterlight Flitter (130681) in Atal'Dazar uses the critter moth model (so has rough, chunky wings) but is classified as a beast. Unsure if it should be reclassified as a critter or the model switched to the hi-res one.
  • Roughback Leaper (120572) is classified as a beast, but uses the new low-res toadswamp model and is tiny. Unsure if it was meant to be a critter or uses the hi-res toadloa_small model.

Pterrordaxes
A bunch of pterrordaxes using the old model weren't updated to the new one, and may have been intended to be:
These two in Pandaria are being ridden by Zandalari and could maybe be updated to the new mount model instead of the new wild one.

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IV. Untameable creatures that could be flagged tameable

Here's a bulk list of things that are untameable currently, but I think are good candidates for taming:

http://www.wow-petopia.com/tamecheck.php

It's too big to just paste here.

I omitted anything that is (i) friendly to both factions, (ii) friendly to one faction and in an area (city, town) belonging to that faction, (iii) clearly meant to be some other NPC's pet or under their command, (iv) part of a boss fight, (v) part of Island Expeditions (maybe this won't be an issue but I'm unsure).

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Nothing immediately comes to mind, but if I see anything or remember any bugs then I'll definately post them here :)


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Here's a bulk list of things that are untameable currently, but I think are good candidates for taming:

http://www.wow-petopia.com/tamecheck.php

I omitted anything that is (i) friendly to both factions, (ii) friendly to one faction and in an area (city, town) belonging to that faction, (iii) clearly meant to be some other NPC's pet or under their command, (iv) part of a boss fight, (v) part of Island Expeditions (maybe this won't be an issue but I'm unsure).

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Very good list, Wain! Hopefully we'll see fixes/changes to these things soon :)

The only thing that I might correct is the Golden Serpent. It spits gold during the fight, is able to control it, and its dungeom journal refers to it as being created (if I remember correctly). So it being an Elemental might be the correct classification. :)


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Valnaaros wrote:
The only thing that I might correct is the Golden Serpent. It spits gold during the fight, is able to control it, and its dungeom journal refers to it as being created (if I remember correctly). So it being an Elemental might be the correct classification. :)

Ahhh ok. I hadn't read that, but it makes sense :) I guess it can't hurt to leave it on there for now and they can decide.

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I just remembered and added the iron juggernaut taming bug. Any others this list is missing? :).

Also: I had confirmation that Island Expeditions beasts should never be tameable so I won't include them in the taming candidates list. I've added the tameable Encrusted Kingscuttler to the bugs list since it's in IE and causes issues when tamed.

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I figured as much. Being able to tame the rares or elites could potentially ruin an expedition.


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Under Pterrordaxes, you say that the old models weren't updated. Why do you think they should have been? They're totally different versions of Pterrordax, just like the raptors have normal, Outland, Draenor, and Zandalar variants. They definitely shouldn't be unnecessarily changed to a generalized and newer look unless it's a faithful recreation, much like many other beasts got. Likewise, "and all are currently untameable" is incorrect; the two found in Un'goro Crater (non-instanced) are tameable. I have the green one as one of my favorite pets.

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You're right about that tameability line - I'm not even sure why that was there, thanks. As for switching to the new model, they can decide what they want to do, but I'd say it's clear that three of the new colours were intended to match the originals and so it's probably intended for them to be upgraded. And they're a much closer fit than many of the creatures they forced to fit the new models. Anyway, they're there so the designers can decide. The original is very low poly, and is not much more than an old bat with a different head stuck on.

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