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Unread post by AdamSavage » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:52 pm

Has anyone else noticed today that 3/6 of the Elementals for "Death from Above" Achievement were up ? I've never seen more then 1/6 up while doing the bombing run. I also noticed that your pet UI disappears when you port into Molten Front. It's not just on my Hunter, I noticed it on my lock as well.
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Unread post by Airwyn » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:15 am

I personally saw 2 of them up today on Scarlet Crusade. I was rather surprised!

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Unread post by Sarayana » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:21 am

Yeah, I've seen a few posts about three being up. We had three on Ysera. Not a moment too soon, if you ask me, given that it's a random spawn and it takes three days to get the daily if you're not able to keep the bird up by keeping numerous quests in your logs...

I was wondering what was going on with my pet. I dismissed and resummoned, and that fixed it, but it was annoying! :?

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Unread post by Vephriel » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:23 am

The pet action bar issue has been happening to me today all over. In dungeons, in the city, just out in the world. Happens randomly.

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Unread post by AdamSavage » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:38 am

How do you keep the bird up ? Is it triggered by doing certain quest first or what's the trick ?
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Unread post by Nightsights » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:57 am

you do the "into the fire" quest chain. the bombing quest is random usually every other day, but you just don't do it, and come back the next day, you'll have to redo the "into the fire" chain again.

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Unread post by KnightRyder » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:07 am

I just kept the daily quest half completed and turning in all the others. Everyday when I went back, there would be the bird sitting there waiting for me to ride out.

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Unread post by Kalliope » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:10 am

Yay, thanks for the tip! Managed to get another of the elementals I was missing, due to getting lucky and getting the bombing daily. (I refuse to hold the quest on principle.) This ought to increase my odds a bit. :)

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Unread post by Miyon » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:49 am

I think I read somewhere that the 3 elementals up at once is actually intended. Maybe I am able to get the last one I need now.
And the pet action bar? It annoys me to no end. I am never able to see if growl is on, or what stance it is in, although I have hotkeyed those to my mouse. Dismissing and resummoning fixes it for me too.

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Unread post by Magli » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:55 am

Kalliope wrote:Yay, thanks for the tip! Managed to get another of the elementals I was missing, due to getting lucky and getting the bombing daily. (I refuse to hold the quest on principle.) This ought to increase my odds a bit. :)
It's not luck (I don't think). The first time you do the Talon quest chain, you're told to go over and capture a fire hawk egg or hatchling; the next time, you get the bombing run. The two quests then seem to alternate.

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Unread post by Kalliope » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:57 am

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Kalliope wrote:Yay, thanks for the tip! Managed to get another of the elementals I was missing, due to getting lucky and getting the bombing daily. (I refuse to hold the quest on principle.) This ought to increase my odds a bit. :)
It's not luck (I don't think). The first time you do the Talon quest chain, you're told to go over and capture a fire hawk egg or hatchling; the next time, you get the bombing run. The two quests then seem to alternate.
Not in my experience. I'd missed out on the bombing run two days in a row with bosses I needed up just within the past week. :(

There is no pattern, only coincidences that appear to be patterns. :/

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Unread post by Worba » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:16 pm

A lot of people are having shared randomness then because bombing run has been e/o day for me so far.

I think I'll start holding it back next time I get it - seeing the same bosses pop day after day is getting old.

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Unread post by Fafnir » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:13 pm

You can hold the bombing daily indefinately (and be sure the hawk will still be there) as long as you never do any Shadow Warden quests. If you do, the hawk will reset even if you have the quest in your log.

Also, I too have experienced multiple days of egg/hatchling dailies between bombing quest availability, so it may be a high chance to alternate, but for sure it isn't a sure thing.

That being said, the three that are up haven't changed since reset... Perhaps they cycle every few days now if it is intended.
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Unread post by Worba » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:32 pm

Skipping shadow warden dailies isn't a big deal as I still have druids' achievements to do (otherwise I'd be doing nothing but Shadow Warden...)

It sounds like bombing runs may be a weighted random (e.g. more likely on "off days" but always at least a small chance of happening on any given day), which is to say [functionally] every other day.
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Unread post by AdamSavage » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:34 pm

Trying to into the fire when other people join in can be suicide if your not a Hunter. I guess people figure there helping, but there not. They are more of a hindrance than help.
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Unread post by CrystalKitten » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:35 pm

I wanna throw in and say that my bombing runs were nearly every other day for me as well. I think the "trick" is that you need to get a baby for the druids to raise before the firehawk will be useable. So, if you think to do your warden's quests on the "get the egg/baby" day so you can ONLY do the bombing run... it won't work. I think I might have been "unlucky" and got 2 "get the egg/baby" quests in a row, but I'm not sure. I do know that there definitely seemed to be a pattern, though. Maybe there's a rare chance for the pattern to be broken (ie.. the poor little fire birdy didn't make it), and some people are just unlucky... I dunno though.
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Unread post by Kalliope » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:35 pm

Worba wrote:A lot of people are having shared randomness then because bombing run has been e/o day for me so far.

I think I'll start holding it back next time I get it - seeing the same bosses pop day after day is getting old.
*nod* It's coin-flippy. I was having every other day bombing run alternation for a while, but now I'm in a phase where I'm barely getting it at all.

The weirdest thing was doing dailies with the bf and one of us would get the bombing run and the other wouldn't. And yet, the warden dailies seem to be consistent; we get the same ones over there.

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Unread post by peanutbuttercup » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:01 pm

I'm so glad they hotfixed it so three are up at a time, though the one I'm missing STILL wasn't up. :( I've been holding on to the quest for so long and just want to be done with the achievement.

As far as pet bars it doesn't vanish when I zone into Molten Front but it does vanish randomly. And when it does I can't control my pet at all (i.e. I hit Ctrl-1 and it just stands there). I have to log out and back to fix it or else the pet is on permanent passive.

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Unread post by Worba » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:03 pm

Try macro pet commands - that's what I use for a lot of my pet actions, and even when the pet bar goes poof the macros still seem to work.

(Interestingly enough those same commands also work on most quest NPC allies...)

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Unread post by GormanGhaste » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:51 pm

Kalliope wrote:The weirdest thing was doing dailies with the bf and one of us would get the bombing run and the other wouldn't. And yet, the warden dailies seem to be consistent; we get the same ones over there.
This happened with me and my other half as well. What's the point of doing dailies together if you don't get the same dailies? We've switched back to Warden dailies, as I don't care about the achievements that much.
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