Dear tank,
Dear tank,
Secondly - yes, I am a Paladin; no, I cannot heal myself through endless torrents of ads. Remember that spell I mentioned up there? DnD? The amazing thing is you can pop that down at my feet and - woosh - mobs will go to you! Threat! It's an amazing thing, learn it. I understand having one or two moments of trouble, but actually going out of your way to create an account on my server and message me "Are you an idiot? You're a Paladin, heal yourself!" is pathetic.
Speaking of pathetic - yeah - get a life or something; don't make accounts on other servers purely to harass people. Will report.
Finally: If a healer needs mana, 9 times out of 10 they will SAY SO. Standing around for 5 minutes not mentioning a thing does nothing to help the dungeon. That's why we were given the ability to chat to other players in our dungeon group. A quick "hey heals, did you need mana?" saves everyone time - I, for one, assumed you went afk, and being the OP individuals the rest of the group are, we went ahead to pull the boss (and actually did perfectly fine til nub dps 1 and 2 got 1shot and died). I did laugh though when you tried to prove your point by not pulling off us. No, I don't usually do this, but I'm here to finish a heroic, not wait around because the tank decides to be antisocial. I'm in a bad mood, have a headache, and just want to get the thing done. So don't go off at me because you were too lazy to type "hey heals, want mana?" - particularly after your appaling, ebay-toon style performances for the past few groups of mobs.
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So yeah, long story short, fail pug. I admit I shouldn't have pulled the boss, but the tank was running around in circles and not saying a word, and I was sitting here trying to keep my "on cast" proc active... and then they went and messaged me on my home server (ya think, if you actually knew about paladins, as your comment implies, you'd know we regenerate mana via combat anyway)
bit of fault on both sides but that last message was the icing on the cake.
Re: Dear tank,
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Re: Dear tank,
I hate that - all hp and mana bars are full, trap launcher's on, MD is on tank... and tank just wanders around with thumb up rear.Comett wrote:I admit I shouldn't have pulled the boss, but the tank was running around in circles and not saying a word, and I was sitting here trying to keep my "on cast" proc active...
And you know he's not AFK because again, he's moving... in small hesitant, aimless shuffles, but he's moving. Usually doesn't get around to actually attacking until MD has worn off.
A few times (when I knew bars were full, tank was not afk and no one was waiting for CC) I've used multishot before MD wore off, to force the slow thinking tank to get moving.
Some tanks are good and realize what traps are, and that when you're facing off with a bunch of mobs and you hear a series of WHOOSH WHOOSH WHOOSH of short buffs all landing on you - it's time to attack. Others not so much.
Re: Dear tank,
I just had a really bad run of "pug luck" last night. I ended up with two or three people on ignore, that tank there one of them (and reported), a couple of fail groups... I did end up just going to bed lol ._.
Re: Dear tank,
(Honestly I don't wait for mana for DPS'ers...unless I know the pull ahead is a tough one. Otherwise I feel its fine for them to sit back and get mana while the rest of us continue. It doesn't hurt to catch up.)
But when the healer is out of mana, I stop and wait for it to be full. I absolutely HATE tanks that let a healer sit and drink...but only till about half mana before continuing to pull. Maybe its a pet peeve, I don't know, but it irritates me to no possible end when Im the one healing a group.
Now I will admit that I will stop and ask if the group is ready on Boss fights. Just to make absolutely sure. (But I usually only do this if Ive had some issues out of the group beforehand. Otherwise I rather just get the dungeon done as efficiently as possible.)
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Re: Dear tank,
One funny raid boss encounter I had.Mychelle wrote:Now I will admit that I will stop and ask if the group is ready on Boss fights. Just to make absolutely sure. (But I usually only do this if Ive had some issues out of the group beforehand. Otherwise I rather just get the dungeon done as efficiently as possible.)
Tank: r?
Me: no, first time here, any tactics?
Mage: ffs press j
Me: Yeah, sure, but some communication in the group wouldn't hurt.
<I press J to open the dungeon journal>
<Tank pulls>
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Re: Dear tank,
Re: Dear tank,
Re: Dear tank,
Whenever this happens to me, when someone tells me that they dont know what to do, I try my best to give them a quick rundown of what just *they* need to do alone for the fight. A few times Ive had the other DPS get pissy with me over it when they would rather me pull, but I try to at least give the new person a heads up of whats about to happen. =PAndine wrote:One funny raid boss encounter I had.Mychelle wrote:Now I will admit that I will stop and ask if the group is ready on Boss fights. Just to make absolutely sure. (But I usually only do this if Ive had some issues out of the group beforehand. Otherwise I rather just get the dungeon done as efficiently as possible.)
Tank: r?
Me: no, first time here, any tactics?
Mage: ffs press j
Me: Yeah, sure, but some communication in the group wouldn't hurt.
<I press J to open the dungeon journal>
<Tank pulls>
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Re: Dear tank,
Hey look, they announce Illidan returning in some form and suddenly I'm back. Hmmmm I wonder if there's a connection.
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Re: Dear tank,
But man.. i do love me some dk's when they know how to play.. and god do i ever love being a dk tank xD
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Re: Dear tank,
I find many tanks (and to a lesser degree, healers) expect people to treat them like gods gift to the group. Tanks being the usual high in demand spot in groups. They tend to act like spoiled children. On top of that, there are the "tanks" that que that arent tanks, fury/arms warriors, frost/Unholy DK'd, ret pallies...yeah, NO! If you dont have a tank spec AND gear for it, dont que as tank, you will not have anyone happy with you!
And even thoughs who ARE tanks, know your class, know your role in the group. Its to keep thing OFF of everyone else, if there is something on someone other then you, GET IT OFF THEM! Oh, and CC...DO NOT BREAK IT! Gods the amount of times a tank breaks the CC on something(s). And dps doing AoE's/traps etc, dont take the mob out of it! And see that hunter trap right there that is just a little to far away to trigger, yeah, go step in it, it will help!
When I play my DK, my first and formost priority is: Is everything on me? if no, fix that. Secondy, if there is CC, dont break it. Thirdly, keep mobs in the AoE/traps/hand of whateveritisthatwarlocksdo. fourth and usually final, damage.
When I play my Healer, I will try to keep the tank and myself up first and formost and then the dps and pets. however if the tank is just plain fail, there is usually a particular dps that will be getting aggro and they become my focus over the tank.
I prefer dpsing on my hunter in pugs/randoms, not because its the most fun to play, but because of the survivability when stuck with stupidity. Between MD's, pets, and FD. While the party may wipe several times I might die once...might.
Kind of the same reason I like my rogue...Vanish is awsome.
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Re: Dear tank,
And, yes, tired of people queueing for roles they don't have the spec or gear for. Tired of shadow priests and DPS shamans running as healers. Tired of ret pallies thinking they can tank.
And sick to death of multiboxers.
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Re: Dear tank,
I like that they gave 1-60 a facelift - long overdue and much appreciated, credit where it's due - but as it stands it's just eye candy; it could have been more.
Imo it would have worked much better without the EXP acceleration and having new toons start at (cap level - 59).
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Re: Dear tank,
Dear healer,
I know you have a hard job, keeping me alive and what not, but I'm sorry that my bear ass runs the same speed you do, and my charge has just the longest cooldown. Could i ask you stay close to me and not run the opposite direction when i try to get agro off you? i know that means you have to be in melee, but you get a nice mana back off melee hits too. Also could you kindly stop blaming me when your decked out in full pvp gear trying to heal? Then of course is the normal defence of "My guild group could do it with me like this".
Dear Dps,
I know you are trying to help me kill stuff, but id just like to tell you i dont have unlimited taunts. i only have 2 that are on long cooldowns. Also i know waiting 2 seconds on a pull, misdirecting and tricks of the trade take a little time to cast, but i can only get so much threat with 10 rage... Id enjoy it too if you boomkins would be kind enough to use thorns on me, again it takes time but its worth it trust me!
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Re: Dear tank,
Haha, when I was running some friends through on Thy, she was nearly full pre-raid geared.. So our healer was doing much the same... And wouldn't heal. The problem was our tank (a friend and guildy) was still learning cata dungeons, still gearing up, and still learning a bit how to tank... In the end I ended up just pet tanking with Squiggles, so that I could act as healer as well <.<Morven wrote:And then tonight I got a healer who wanted to DPS. And pull. And tank, it seems. One of those twinked-out impatient ones who won't wait for anyone, even if it got her killed.
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Re: Dear tank,
TL;DR I've had plenty of those awful groups. I know where you're coming from.
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