Some Transmog's rules changes

[Kalliope]

That's actually something that's been puzzling me a bit. We can xmog bows into xbows/guns and vice versa, even though those animations are pretty different. Is it mainly the special attack animations that are holding things up with daggers/fists?

My guess is that for whatever reason, ranged weapons were easier to alter.

[Myrrmi]

Somehow it appears to me that it wasn't an issue of altering anything, just pressing a switch. They had to do it for hunters with their "one mandatory end-game weapon of a type" policy. For other classes it's just a matter of a skin, for us it's sound, too. Not everyone can be a dwarf and actually like constant warcries of their boomstick, after all

Moging was a completely new feature and Blizz might have not be sure what of expect of it from the players side, so they made the rules strict enough so that "nothing can go wrong", just in case. Now it seems they've realised that loosening the rules a bit will do more good than bad, if any.

[Ziarre]

Has this been checked on the test servers? By that, I mean has a caster tried to turn their staff into a polearm? Or a priest attempting to turn their 1 handed mace into a 1handed axe or sword? I know commonsense would dictate that they shouldn't be able to, but thought I'd ask anyways.

I believe you need to be able to equip an item in order to transmog to it, so I don't think this is possible.

This is correct. If you can't equip it, you can't transmog to it. This goes for a weapon of a type you can equip but is too high level for your character, too--my monk can't transmog to Staff of the Hidden Master until she's 86.

[Twila]

My assassin rogue would LOVE to be able to transmorg his daggers into swords, or fist weps. I hate having to go combat just to enjoy my swords.

[duffy05452]

any news on off-hands? aside from a tanks shield off hands are purely cosmetic right? how much fun would a lock with a sword and an off-hand transmog'd into a shield be? or dual wielding Spellfire Longswords? there aren't any weapon animations for spell casting right? granted these are all probably asking way too much, but fun to fanaticize.

[Sigrah]

any news on off-hands? aside from a tanks shield off hands are purely cosmetic right? how much fun would a lock with a sword and an off-hand transmog'd into a shield be? or dual wielding Spellfire Longswords? there aren't any weapon animations for spell casting right? granted these are all probably asking way too much, but fun to fanaticize.

There's no indication that shield and non-shield off hand items will be moggable with each other. Or that off-hand items of any type will be moggable with weapons of any type. Basically, if you want to dual-wield Spellfire Longswords, you'll have to do it with Rogues, Warriors, Death Knights, and Monks.

One of the many things I wish Blizzard would do, though, is add an invisible armor piece for each armor type in the shoulder slot. This way, they wouldn't have to deal with adding a "show shoulder armor" option in the menu like they do with the head and cloak slots. And before anyone says "that would never happen", Blizzard already has similar items in place for Monks using fist weapons. The Novice's Handwraps (and its various upgrades) are invisible when equipped AND is currently usable in transmogrification to apply this invisibility to any fist weapon a Monk uses.

[ejpaints]

They're very unlikely to give any kind of option to hide shoulder . It was some time ago but a blue poster mentioned how shoulders are a status symbol, lots of art going into them, blah blah. I'd look it up and link it, but it was so long ago I don't remember where I read it.

[Maizou]

They're very unlikely to give any kind of option to hide shoulder . It was some time ago but a blue poster mentioned how shoulders are a status symbol, lots of art going into them, blah blah. I'd look it up and link it, but it was so long ago I don't remember where I read it.

They said it's unlikely, but they do hear the player feedback.

Hide Shoulders and Hide Tabard are the only necessary ones, IMO.

Tabards became less necessary with the changes in Mists to not being used for rep, but as you still use them for city reps in current heroics, it's still something that should be added.

[Slickrock]

They're very unlikely to give any kind of option to hide shoulder . It was some time ago but a blue poster mentioned how shoulders are a status symbol, lots of art going into them, blah blah. I'd look it up and link it, but it was so long ago I don't remember where I read it.

They said it's unlikely, but they do hear the player feedback.

Hide Shoulders and Hide Tabard are the only necessary ones, IMO.

Tabards became less necessary with the changes in Mists to not being used for rep, but as you still use them for city reps in current heroics, it's still something that should be added.

I don't see hiding shoulders, after all we can hide helms already, and if you hide shoulders, you are removing the last bit of modeled amour from your toon. Many of the other amour slots don't have actual models depending on the tier you are dealing with.

Why would you want to hide them, other than for some RP gear sets? (when you can take them off anyway)

I totally agree with tabards, they are a pain most of the time.

[Lisaara]

I want to hide them cause most of my rp sets ARE stuff I mog. I don't go outside what I can and can't mog and people rp at random.

[Slickrock]

I want to hide them cause most of my rp sets ARE stuff I mog. I don't go outside what I can and can't mog and people rp at random.

You could always just take the shoulders off...

Unless of course you are doing some ironman hardcore RP in raids or something...

[Slickrock]

I still want to use tmogged swords on my spriest... Nothing else shows up well in shadow form.

The blue post was still vague on that. I need to get on the ptr and test it out.

[Maizou]

I want to hide them cause most of my rp sets ARE stuff I mog. I don't go outside what I can and can't mog and people rp at random.

You could always just take the shoulders off...

Unless of course you are doing some ironman hardcore RP in raids or something...

A lot of "Dress" models do not work well with actual shoulders. Not everyone on this forum only plays a hunter. Some of us play clothies. There's really very little reason for hide shoulders as a hunter (Though there are a few cases where it might be good for transmog), but in general, it's mostly clothies who wish to hide shoulders.

Hell, they could even just introduce an invisible shoulder piece from the darkmoon faire or something you can transmog.

[Apaché]

I absolutely HATED that they took out hunter melee, but I can see the reasoning behind it. I do hope that in the future they do allow us to have melee on our backs for looks, I miss my shadowstrike ;(

[Lisaara]

I want to hide them cause most of my rp sets ARE stuff I mog. I don't go outside what I can and can't mog and people rp at random.

You could always just take the shoulders off...

Unless of course you are doing some ironman hardcore RP in raids or something...

A lot of "Dress" models do not work well with actual shoulders. Not everyone on this forum only plays a hunter. Some of us play clothies. There's really very little reason for hide shoulders as a hunter (Though there are a few cases where it might be good for transmog), but in general, it's mostly clothies who wish to hide shoulders.

Hell, they could even just introduce an invisible shoulder piece from the darkmoon faire or something you can transmog.

Exactly. Most cloth items look awful with shoulder pieces. And yes, Slick, I've rp-raided before too.

[Slickrock]

Now RP raiding is something I would like to see.. Getting back to my D&D roots.

[Slickrock]

Yeah, a lot of cloth shoulders are meh at best, unless you are collecting the raid sets.

[Valfreya]

I would love to see the option to hide the shoulders. Some of the chest pieces have some really pretty designs on the shoulder area that are covered by the shoulder armor. I kept all the one sided mail armor shoulders that I could find so I can have at least one side of my shoulders showing.

[Lisaara]

Now RP raiding is something I would like to see.. Getting back to my D&D roots.

It's a fun experience and yeah...also there's some mail and leather shoulders that are downright ugly too but the rest is pretty so the option to hide em would be nice.

[Slickrock]

So yeah, finally got on the ptr and tested.. No sword for my spriest. Verysadpanda.

In other tmog news, the season 13 set looks so much better than the T14 set.. I might go ahead and buy that pvp set for tmogging, just for a new look.