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Re: More nerfs... and other changes.
I'll bow out of the discussion, since I'm very far removed from current numbers. Hopefully those will balance out.
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I hear you. I'm just so angry at all these pvp based nerfs!! I don't raid normal anymore BUT I like to be somewhat useful in lfr and I like my burst/cd's for soloing and other 'what used to be fun' hunter stuff. Stop killing my freakin game blizz!! Taking away silencing shot was bad enough espically since we have to kill a mob that heals itself for a hunter related item!Ickabob wrote:Sorry, I've been a little angry lately. Most our nerfs we've been getting lately have been a direct result of PVP complaints about hunters being too powerful.
I'm sure this is no different.
Just make them turn off in bgs/arena or w/e. Is it really that hard?
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Re: More nerfs... and other changes.
There was a GC post later today that said they they would compensate us for the Readiness change, if they leave the change as is, but they are probably going to do what they did with the Stampede change, and give flat dps boosts to basic talents again.Kalliope wrote:Citing sources is good.
I'll bow out of the discussion, since I'm very far removed from current numbers. Hopefully those will balance out.
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Indeed and I saw it brought up multiple times on the forum where people were going "NERF HUNTARS!". The two biggest things brought up was Stampede(pets doing damage) and Readiness(for BW)Ickabob wrote:You just hit the nail on the head, good sir.Slickrock wrote:And as to why I'm calling it a PVP based nerf? It's because all these nerfs are around reducing burst or CC which is what all the PVP QQ is about.
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Also, most hunter PvP "conversations" on forums that I have seen are about "triple-trinket", so maybe this makes then shut the **** up.
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There is way too much hunter hate going around lately. Why not hate on warlocks with their fears (that they can kill you through), plethora of defensive moves, insane damage with moves like the dreaded Chaos Bolt, or AoE in BG's with Fire and Brimstone spreading Immolates and Incinerates? Not to mention that locks are on top of raid DPS meters right now. I'm going off topic here and by no means hate warlocks, but just as an example they need to lay off us with these nerfs. It's making me dizzy.Junrei wrote:Indeed and I saw it brought up multiple times on the forum where people were going "NERF HUNTARS!". The two biggest things brought up was Stampede(pets doing damage) and Readiness(for BW)
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Hunter's are not the best DPS class by a long shot, our best spec is middle of the road and due to PvP we're getting nerfed into oblivion.
Frost mage at the moment is the best DPS spec their is in PvE with insane dmg amounts, however its also extremly viable as a PvP spec and yet it's running about almost unscathed.
So much has been nerfed in this upcoming patch that I've got to the point where I don't want to play my hunter. I've been working so hard this tier to raise my DPS and help my raiding team and yet no matter what I do, it seems that blizz is determined to relegate me to doing the same DPS as a tank. (if im lucky)
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Warlocks get a lot of hate(hence the major nerf to KJC), believe me. Hunters just have gotten a lot more lately.Ickabob wrote:There is way too much hunter hate going around lately. Why not hate on warlocks with their fears (that they can kill you through), plethora of defensive moves, insane damage with moves like the dreaded Chaos Bolt, or AoE in BG's with Fire and Brimstone spreading Immolates and Incinerates? Not to mention that locks are on top of raid DPS meters right now. I'm going off topic here and by no means hate warlocks, but just as an example they need to lay off us with these nerfs. It's making me dizzy.Junrei wrote:Indeed and I saw it brought up multiple times on the forum where people were going "NERF HUNTARS!". The two biggest things brought up was Stampede(pets doing damage) and Readiness(for BW)
I'd rather people hate on DKs.
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Assuming that GC comes through on what he said that we would be compensated for the Readiness change, we'll probably get more static dps boosts to basic shots. What this means is we fall further and further behind, particularly to shaman and monks, who are topping the charts at least in my raids. You certainly should be outdpsing the tank, but, you aren't gonna get close to some of those other classes anymore.Atieno wrote:I'm a PvE BM hunter and honestly I'm getting upset and tired with all these nerfs.
Hunter's are not the best DPS class by a long shot, our best spec is middle of the road and due to PvP we're getting nerfed into oblivion.
Frost mage at the moment is the best DPS spec their is in PvE with insane dmg amounts, however its also extremly viable as a PvP spec and yet it's running about almost unscathed.
So much has been nerfed in this upcoming patch that I've got to the point where I don't want to play my hunter. I've been working so hard this tier to raise my DPS and help my raiding team and yet no matter what I do, it seems that blizz is determined to relegate me to doing the same DPS as a tank. (if im lucky)
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Being a Balance Druid as long as I have it's hard to be optimistic about how much they try and rebalance things with the whole the lets boost everybody not sort out flatlining BM abilities.
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Im just becoming less and less impressed with Wow.. I don't enjoy raiding anymore either .. I just wish they would think about something other then world of pvp.. cause its not all about one general thing.
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The beginning of the expac isn't the problem, it's how we get slowly nerfed over the course of it to satisfy the QQ...AdamSavage wrote:It's reaching a point, that I'm debating if I even want to buy the next expansion.. I hate to imagine how week we will be against the new mobs.. My shadow priest is fun to play, but only once he has some ok gear.
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The ironic thing is that as much as they say they want challenging playstyle, they are making arcane and cobra/steady the key of our dps. (I'll never say that on the forums though, otherwise they will come up with some other lame complicated solution).
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Sadly, pvp nerfs can and will drastically affect pve. Just my thoughts. It's an idea that's been sitting in the back of my head for a while.
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It would be more of my own personal protest I guess.. It will obviously come down to what changes they have in mind for the next expansion of course. However, if they keep going down this path.. I'm not sure what I will do.Junrei wrote:Adam, keep in mind, NONE of this is set in stone. Until it hits live servers, it is subject to change(and even then, it can change then too). Also 5.4 has absolutely nothing to do with the next expansion so it's a bit unfair to judge the next expansion even before Blizzcon. That should be out of your thoughts atm.
They have already proven they can separate PVP from PVE.. "The newest example is this: Hunter's Mark now has a duration of 20 seconds while in PvP combat (down from 30 seconds)."
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