General BlizzCon discussion

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Re: General BlizzCon discussion

Unread post by Valnaaros » Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:20 pm

They'll go into more details later :)

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Re: General BlizzCon discussion

Unread post by Wain » Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:23 pm

Yeah, until then I'm nervous.
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Re: General BlizzCon discussion

Unread post by SylviaDragon » Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:39 pm

Well there seems to be some interesting quality of life changes coming. Still think the faction choice for nightborne and void elves was a little odd.

Never had a big interest in the whole Horde vrs Ally spiel so i'm a little sad. The zones look really pretty though and seem to be playing along to two of my favorite themes.
I feel kind of weird about them announcing Queen Azshara as an early raid boss out of the blue like that though without mentioning naga at all during the panel. She has been such a huge figure for so long now, having her be an early boss in a xpack that seems to be more focused on faction conflict than naga and old gods feels like an injustice to her. hopefully there is more story to be had there and they are just trying to keep things a surprise?


mixed feelings about the new scaling. I hope it gets turned off at level cap to prevent things from being hard to solo, like Wain said. But It also leaves me curious about how this will effect old world gear farming. Like will everything revert back to its "normal" level once you out level it? or will it be stuck at its max scale level? this could open up the way for easier farming of gear that has become incredibly rare due to the slow removal of lvl 57-60 mobs- or it could end up being annoying. I wonder if you will have to level up a toon and lock them at the desired level in order to farm certain lvl gear.

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Re: General BlizzCon discussion

Unread post by Silverpeal » Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:47 pm

So, I asked the inevitable hunter question for the Q&A. Feel free to upvote it to get more attention https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/top ... =3#post-49
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Re: General BlizzCon discussion

Unread post by Valnaaros » Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:49 pm

I agree. I can't see Nightborne picking sides like that; at least not the entire race. And Void Elves just seem like they're too small of a group/race to be playable.

I'm hoping Azshara will just be defeated, not killed, or that there is a lot more to it (which I'm sure there is).

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Re: General BlizzCon discussion

Unread post by Kalasta » Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:50 pm

I'm getting the feeling that this is just part of the expansion. Like a distraction to the true threat.The Black Empire's return.
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Unread post by Valnaaros » Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:53 pm

Could be. But I can't see them having the first half being faction conflict, then suddenly shifting to us fighting the Black Empire for the second half. You never know, but the Black Empire should be its own xpac.

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Re: General BlizzCon discussion

Unread post by Wain » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:01 pm

Valnaaros wrote:Could be. But I can't see them having the first half being faction conflict, then suddenly shifting to us fighting the Black Empire for the second half. You never know, but the Black Empire should be its own xpac.
True, but if you'd asked me at the start of Legion I couldn't have imagined we'd suddenly be on Argus half way through ;)
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Re: General BlizzCon discussion

Unread post by Qraljar » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:02 pm

Is there anyone who's planning to ask about allied races? They said the 6 current ones are release schedules ones, with more planned. It would be interesting to see what they have planned? I imagine Mag'har being a shoe-in, but say, Zandalari, threw me for a loop, as they are more than a simple skin.
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Unread post by Valnaaros » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:03 pm

It was obvious, though. In a Legion-heavy xpac, it would be an injustice for us to not go to Argus. Few were surprised that we were going that. In 7.0, there were many, many references to Argus, it being a Legion stronghold, etc etc. We had everything except Blizz officially confirming it.

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Re: General BlizzCon discussion

Unread post by Wain » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:04 pm

I agree that the allied race thing seems really forced in places. I feel they should have just stuck with what players had been asking for, and not tried to be all symmetrical "one-ally-per-race". They've shaved the corners off that square peg to force it into the round hole.
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Re: General BlizzCon discussion

Unread post by Valnaaros » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:05 pm

Mag'har, Grimtotem, Frost Trolls, Forest Trolls, Wildhammers, Blackrock Orcs, maybe Leper Gnomes, etc. I don't think they'll tell us what they have planned, but we can easily guess.

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Re: General BlizzCon discussion

Unread post by Wain » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:05 pm

By the way, Q&A question submission is here:
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/top ... 158?page=1
I asked about how area scaling will affect older-xpac farming.
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Re: General BlizzCon discussion

Unread post by Qraljar » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:07 pm

Valnaaros wrote:Mag'har, Grimtotem, Frost Trolls, Forest Trolls, Wildhammers, Blackrock Orcs, maybe Leper Gnomes, etc. I don't think they'll tell us what they have planned, but we can easily guess.
Yeah, but like I said: Zandalari change things. They use new skeletons (or new Nelf skeleton like the MoP ones used the altered old NE skeleton) and at least a new female model, as well as customization options.

This means there's a possibility for more than just skin changes. Forest and Frost Trolls are a good examples, but how about Mechagnomes? Iron/Earthen Dwarves?
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Re: General BlizzCon discussion

Unread post by Valnaaros » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:07 pm

Wain wrote:I agree that the allied race thing seems really forced in places. I feel they should have just stuck with what players had been asking for, and not tried to be all symmetrical "one-ally-per-race". They've shaved the corners off that square peg to force it into the round hole.
Agreed. Nightborne, Highmountain, Lightforged, and even Void Elves are just pushing it and aren't true subraces.

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Re: General BlizzCon discussion

Unread post by Valnaaros » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:09 pm

If they'll need to touch them up, they will, to make them en par with playable races. But I don't see them doing anything too crazy.

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Re: General BlizzCon discussion

Unread post by Qraljar » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:12 pm

Valnaaros wrote:If they'll need to touch them up, they will, to make them en par with playable races. But I don't see them doing anything too crazy.
True, but say, Iron Dwarves aren't that crazy. Mostly a skin thing, only requires glowing eyes and different beard options. Would be fairly easy.

Mechagnome would probably require a new model. Unlikely, but it would be really cool to have a Mech race.

That aside, I like the allied races concept, but Lightforged and Highmountain and specific feel kind of bad because it's not like regular Draenei and Tauren couldn't have just gotten those customization options.
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Re: General BlizzCon discussion

Unread post by Valnaaros » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:14 pm

I'm not just talking about animations or texture. I'm also talking about the lore behind it all. It wouldn't be hard to implement Iron Dwarves from a technical stand point. But I am doubtful that the Iron Dwarves would completely side with the Alliance, since they are members of the Titan forces, which at neutral.

I agree. They should've just given the customization options, not make them into a subrace. Give Tauren Grimtotem and Draenei Broken.

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Re: General BlizzCon discussion

Unread post by Qraljar » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:17 pm

Valnaaros wrote:Draenei Broken.
Hyes. I was so hoping for that. After all, the Broken have a cool new model in 7.3. The only problem is that, while I know sexual dimorphism between broken is minimal due to their state, I'm not sure they could've used the model for male and female, so they'd have to make a female model. (But they did so with Zandalari)

They even have the draenei skeleton and I think at least two face options, three or so hair options and five skin options, so they could easily make it work.
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Re: General BlizzCon discussion

Unread post by Valnaaros » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:19 pm

They could've easily made it work, and they should've. Broken have been a highly-demanded subrace since TBC.

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