War of the Thorns annoyances
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I don't mind Sylvanas being herself. It's just frustrating when it's her doing her thing as the Warchief and dragging the whole Horde into it. Sylvanas has always been kinda...on that side of things. If Gilneas was any indication of that. I'm also slightly frustrated that a no-name solider's comments caused her to just go full bitch mode for no good reason? She kept insisting we were there to just take the tree. Even Nanthos was in the background like 'Wat.'
I main a Forsaken. That's my Queen. I just don't want Garrosh 2.0 with SoO 2.0. I just don't get why they basically built up the suspense of 'OMG IT MIGHT NOT BE SYLVANAS' with how adamant she was about taking it. Even in the beginning of the cinematic, she said 'Invade' only to get miffed at this nobody.
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I don't think they were whispering the name Sylvanas as an answer to who should be warchief. I believe they were calling out for the return of Sylvanas' soul instead.
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Niabi wrote:I believe Vol'jin grossly misinterpreted the spirits whispers.
I don't think they were whispering the name Sylvanas as an answer to who should be warchief. I believe they were calling out for the return of Sylvanas' soul instead.
Speaking of Voljin, wasn't there a screenshot of Thrall with Voljin's ashes when this expansion was first announced? Is that going to come into play at some point?
As to Sylvie, I started the game as a horde but main Alliance these days. I liked her back then and hated Jania with a passion, it feels odd to be wavering now. I dont really hate Sylvannas, but I do agree this was just a bad story turning her into Garrosh 2.0.
Ah well, it will all keep going with the back and forth till someone invades/attacks the world again.
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WELL don't you all look silly now er? *puts on shades*Flyra wrote:Sylvanas does not want to burn the world tree she wants to capture and occupy it. I think it's going to either be an accident or the Nelfs doing it - preventing people from occupying their tree.
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The writing lied to us, it's not our fault! XDCastile wrote:WELL don't you all look silly now er? *puts on shades*Flyra wrote:Sylvanas does not want to burn the world tree she wants to capture and occupy it. I think it's going to either be an accident or the Nelfs doing it - preventing people from occupying their tree.
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Haha! I feel bad for most of the horde races EXCEPT the forsaken. Ya'll just evil and I'm burning your dumpster of a sewer city the ground.. *kitty swaggers away*cowmuflage wrote:The writing lied to us, it's not our fault! XDCastile wrote:WELL don't you all look silly now er? *puts on shades*Flyra wrote:Sylvanas does not want to burn the world tree she wants to capture and occupy it. I think it's going to either be an accident or the Nelfs doing it - preventing people from occupying their tree.
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Ahahaaaaa, nope. We take that away from Alliance too. Ya know, with Blight. Lots of Blight. >}Castile wrote: Haha! I feel bad for most of the horde races EXCEPT the forsaken. Ya'll just evil and I'm burning your dumpster of a sewer city the ground.. *kitty swaggers away*
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I hate it and hated how it ended. It made absolutely zero sense.
As a Blood Elf, I was not in the Horde to be a "bad guy", a baby-killer, a sacker of villages, a killer of innocents.
It really makes me wonder if those people I saved from Lor'danel really WERE spared, or if the minute I turned my back the Forsaken scientists didn't drag them all off to be experimented on.
This really makes it hard to continue playing. I won't turn to my Alliance characters, there are too many aspects of the Alliance I don't agree with and would not feel comfortable joining.
But if Blizzard's writers think they are going to foist this kind of crappy writing on us and have us be "happy" about it...
I've been proudly Horde since vanilla.
This is the kind of stupidity that would make me seek out other games.
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That said, the two plots are looking VERY similar. Can't say I'm exactly surprised, but I am disappointed. This is exactly what my pessimistic brain said Blizzard was going to do and I was so, so hopeful that I'd be wrong.
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Next she'll be going back in time and killing Arthas.LupisDarkmoon wrote:I wouldn't call Garrosh's genocide and torture of the Horde and Alliance both exactly tame, even compared to what Sylvannas just did- he did kind of tear apart all of Pandaria, kill trolls and goblins in the streets, and take over the entire home city of the Horde for war crimes and medical experimentation.
That said, the two plots are looking VERY similar. Can't say I'm exactly surprised, but I am disappointed. This is exactly what my pessimistic brain said Blizzard was going to do and I was so, so hopeful that I'd be wrong.
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If only she knew about the Caverns of Time, she could go there , kill Arthas, and erase her own undead persona from history.cowmuflage wrote:Next she'll be going back in time and killing Arthas.LupisDarkmoon wrote:I wouldn't call Garrosh's genocide and torture of the Horde and Alliance both exactly tame, even compared to what Sylvannas just did- he did kind of tear apart all of Pandaria, kill trolls and goblins in the streets, and take over the entire home city of the Horde for war crimes and medical experimentation.
That said, the two plots are looking VERY similar. Can't say I'm exactly surprised, but I am disappointed. This is exactly what my pessimistic brain said Blizzard was going to do and I was so, so hopeful that I'd be wrong.
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To make matters worse, bet you that when we inevitably take out Sylvanas, we'll be storming into Undercity, using the light to cleanse it somehow.Thwip wrote:Ahahaaaaa, nope. We take that away from Alliance too. Ya know, with Blight. Lots of Blight. >}Castile wrote: Haha! I feel bad for most of the horde races EXCEPT the forsaken. Ya'll just evil and I'm burning your dumpster of a sewer city the ground.. *kitty swaggers away*
Leading to Horde being able to use the Undercity again after they return to their "we're just the underdogs" spiel, while the Night Elves are still stuck with a burning tree for the next 8 expansions.
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The morally grey part of this is most likely the actual players than the events going on. I main Horde. I have done ever since I first started playing. I may not agree with Sylvanas' actions but I can understand why she's acting a certain way. She wants to kill Malfurion because that would kill the hope of the Night Elves. She then follows the same sort of 'killing hope' thing by taking down their tree and seems to wholeheartedly believe that, if the situations were reversed, the Alliance would act as the Horde are now. She's paranoid and has backed herself into a corner of her own design. I can get behind that. Not so sure on the fact that she's decided to cook a load of civilians, though.
Blizzard don't want to write a bad story. They want to write a story that gets people to react to it. This is giving them exactly what they want. I don't believe that it's necessarily bad writing, it's just writing that people don't like. What I will say, though, is that I have this awful feeling that these events are going to reflect badly on those who actually play Horde, and that there's an imbalance. Anything bad that the Alliance do can now easily be met with 'yeah but we didn't burn Teldrassil'. I doubt the Alliance are going to do something majorly awful in the Seige of Undercity, either, and, even if they do, we know that Sylvanas loses it and unleashes the plague so, again, imbalance.
At this point, Sylvanas =/= Horde as a whole. I'd even argue that Sylvanas =/= the Forsaken as a whole, considering some of her actions in BtS.
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