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Special Pets (functional)

Unread post by skribs » Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:24 pm

There exists a database of pets with special looks, or pets that are more difficult to tame.

Are there plans to put in an option to search by attack speed or some other bonus (i.e. Lupos)?

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Re: Special Pets (functional)

Unread post by Wain » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:35 am

If I can get data on all of those, then definitely!
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Re: Special Pets (functional)

Unread post by Wain » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:01 pm

Update: working on it now.

I have attack speed data for all except the following:

Araga (cat)
Arikara (windserpent)
Big Samras (bear)
Bloodaxe Worg Pup (wolf)
Bloodscalp Tiger (cat)
Cranky Benj (turtle)
Death Howl (wolf)
Duskstalker (cat)
Frostwolf (wolf)
Giant Wetlands Crocolisk (crocolisk)
Giggler (hyena)
Glassweb Spider (spider)
Greater Firebird (carrionbird)
Greater Lava Spider (spider)
Grunter (boar)
Krellack (scorpid)
Kurmokk (gorilla)
Large Loch Crocolisk (crocolisk)
Maraudine Bonepaw (hyena)
Mongress (bear)
Murderous Blisterpaw (hyena)
Old Grizzlegut (bear)
Rabid Bonepaw (hyena)
Rabid Crag Coyote (wolf)
Razzashi Broodwidow (spider)
Rekktilac (spider)
Ripscale (crocolisk)
Savannah Cub (cat)
Scorpid Duneburrower (scorpid)
Searing Lava Spider (spider)
Sewer Beast (crocolisk)
Shadowclaw (cat)
Shy-Rotam (cat)
Sian-Rotam (cat)
Soulflayer (windserpent)
Starving Winter Wolf (wolf)
Stormpike Owl (owl)
Sunscale Lashtail (raptor)
Ursollok (bear)
Wayward Buzzard (carrionbird)
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Re: Special Pets (functional)

Unread post by Shirubia » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:31 pm

There was a very special pet on vanilla: Lupus, a rare worg in Duskwood.

What made him special was that his attacks were SHADOW DAMAGE instead of physical.

Of those pets you don't have attack speeds, I believe Araga and the Frostwolf were 1.5 attack speed. The Frostwolf was also notable because it's 240% chase speed.

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Re: Special Pets (functional)

Unread post by Namárië » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:47 pm

Elite pets had more hp and armor when tamed too if I rember correctly. Only golden elites i think. . Not silver rares .. which I don't remember if it was even a thing?

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Re: Special Pets (functional)

Unread post by Shirubia » Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:11 pm

Tårnfalk wrote:Elite pets had more hp and armor when tamed too if I rember correctly. Only golden elites i think. . Not silver rares .. which I don't remember if it was even a thing?
Silver elite rares did indeed exist back then. They were just, well, rare.

As for the increased hp and armor I don't remember they having more compared to ''normal'' pets.

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Re: Special Pets (functional)

Unread post by Wain » Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:03 pm

I tracked down records of the attack speeds of another 16 Classic pets. That just leaves 23 for which I have no reliable record. See:
http://www.wow-petopia.com/classic/atta ... ed_Unknown

There are some obscure pages that do mention attack speeds for these pets, but I've found them to be unreliable - some just filled in a default '2.0' for anything they didn't have specific data on.

Regarding Lupos - he did indeed do shadow damage in Vanilla, but that was fixed in 1.9 so he shouldn't be doing that in Classic.
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Re: Special Pets (functional)

Unread post by Namarus » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:37 pm

Quick question.

I noticed that there was some information posted saying that pets did the same damage regardless of attack speed. I wonder if that is true though.

Surely with faster attack speed there would be more chances to get a critical strike to increase the uptime of Frenzy (beastmaster talent).

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Re: Special Pets (functional)

Unread post by Namárië » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:03 pm

Shirubia wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:11 pm
Tårnfalk wrote:Elite pets had more hp and armor when tamed too if I rember correctly. Only golden elites i think. . Not silver rares .. which I don't remember if it was even a thing?
Silver elite rares did indeed exist back then. They were just, well, rare.

As for the increased hp and armor I don't remember they having more compared to ''normal'' pets.
The turtle boss in the low lvl water dungeon had more hp. . almost certain. .sorry been a while since i played wow so forgot the dungeons name. . The one on the beach in Ashenvale.

Might remember wrong though. ..worth testing?

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Re: Special Pets (functional)

Unread post by Lamiara » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:12 pm

Blackfathom Deeps, and yes, that turtle had more HP and was thus highly sought after.
Many elites were better in vanilla. Think they changed it in Wrath.

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Re: Special Pets (functional)

Unread post by Acherontia » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:33 pm

Does anyone know which patch removed Lupos' shadow damage and equalized pet attack speed? I've read that the Classic servers will be sitting (balance-wise) at patch 1.12 (Drums of War), and am trying to find out where we stand with pets, then.

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Re: Special Pets (functional)

Unread post by PrimalTazza » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:12 am

I believe it was 1.6 that normalized pets? Attack speeds might not be the exact same across the board, but the DPS will be roughly the same regardless. I don't think any pets have unique move speeds anymore (Mazzranache) and nothing crazy like extra resistances or Lupos' shadow damage.

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Re: Special Pets (functional)

Unread post by Wain » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:56 am

Acherontia wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:33 pm
Does anyone know which patch removed Lupos' shadow damage and equalized pet attack speed? I've read that the Classic servers will be sitting (balance-wise) at patch 1.12 (Drums of War), and am trying to find out where we stand with pets, then.
Lupos was fixed in 1.9, so no shadow wolf for Classic.

Attack speed was standardized in 2.0, I think. We should almost certainly see variable speeds in Classic, as I know they were checking our data on them :)
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Re: Special Pets (functional)

Unread post by Acherontia » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:12 am

Righto, thanks!

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Re: Special Pets (functional)

Unread post by Pax0707 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:57 pm

Did anyone tame Lupos and confirmed this?
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Re: Special Pets (functional)

Unread post by Phuse » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:18 am

What about Takk the leaper anyone recall when they changed the run speed on pets? I had Him for WSG to chase mounting people with his runspeed , BT for his fast attacks and OFC Lupos for his shadow damage

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Re: Special Pets (functional)

Unread post by Bowno » Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:17 pm

I saw a hunter with Lupos today and asked about shadow damage. We went outside of Stormwind to test it, and our battle logs said nothing about him dealing shadow damage all 5 times we had him attack something. :C

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Re: Special Pets (functional)

Unread post by listopencil » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:54 pm

Namarus wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:37 pm
Quick question.

I noticed that there was some information posted saying that pets did the same damage regardless of attack speed. I wonder if that is true though.

Surely with faster attack speed there would be more chances to get a critical strike to increase the uptime of Frenzy (beastmaster talent).
Pets within a family that vary in attack speed also vary in damage. That is, cats (for instance) will do a certain amount of dps regardless. If you have a faster cat it will do less damage per attack. However speed does give you more chances to crit per second and really messes with casters.

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