Is it too late for them?

[Rhyela]

I was just sitting here at work thinking about Cataclysm (as usual), and began wondering about the status of some of these still-untameable beasts. Do you guys think it's too late for them? I'm talking about stags, thunder lizards, zhevras, basilisks, etc. Do you think that since we haven't seen them yet, and Cataclysm is quite literally just around the corner, that they missed the boat? Or, do you think it's possible that Blizz could still surprise us and flip that little "on" switch on some of our most beloved tameables?

I admit that I'm worried.

[Vephriel]

I've been having the same thoughts as you. I was honestly feeling pretty sure about Stags when they were first reported to have Diets, but after determining it was probably just a glitch (them listed as bears), my hope is wavering as well. Hydras were also high on my possibility list.

I'll be extremely happy if Blizzard surprises us...I still feel as though we could use a few more brand new families, but I definitely will not complain. We've been wonderfully lucky this expansion so far, Blizz has really been generous to us, so I would never feel disappointed. I just love the idea of a Stag or Hydra pet so much I was really hoping to see them implemented. Ah well, guess we can only wait and see, but unfortunately I do think it's a little late to bring in new pet families.

[Palladiamorsdeus]

I've got to admit, I'll be angry if at least stags don't make it into the mix, since they tantalized us with that back at Blizzcon. Otherwise, I am just not really impressed with the new tameable fare. I also think it's sort of annoying that they went with a bunch of stuff that wasn't really asked for, and I haven't seen a single pet family made tameable that WAS requested. That's...a way to listen there, Blizz. Good job.

[Raydex-of-the-dawn]

Actually, a lot of people asked for silithid beetles, Palla. I'm happy, but I could be happier.

[bluddy]

blizz can't answer all of our requests...it would get a mess. sorry folks but that's how i see it

[Rikaku]

I'll be extremely happy if Blizzard surprises us...I still feel as though we could use a few more brand new families, but I definitely will not complain. We've been wonderfully lucky this expansion so far, Blizz has really been generous to us, so I would never feel disappointed.

I gotta disagree, sorry.

I think strictly on tameables (Not talking about actual Hunter gameplay, just the things we can tame), we were not lucky at all. It was rather a disappointing turnout.

Most of the new colors of crabs (the models) are untameable. We did get new crocolisks. We got foxes, but they're just re-skinned wolves and along with monkeys don't seem to be that graphically 'On par' with other cataclysm mobs. We got a few new families, but none of the stuff people really wanted. No Zhevras, No stags, still no Hydras, and those were the top clamoured pets. And I know a lot of people wanted Stag/Zhevras after the Blizzcon panel.

Overall we just got 3 new families (confirmed, not counting 'Beetles, since I dunno if that's another family or just whats going on there). So like 3-4 new families? We mostly just got new skins.

I think the only way we got lucky was that most, if not all, old world skins were preserved.

I'm not saying that the pets we did get, no one wanted. I'm sure people wanted more crabs and beetles (not being sarcastic), but overall it seems a disappointing pet turnout.

blizz can't answer all of our requests...it would get a mess. sorry folks but that's how i see it

True, but you can't expect people to then not be disappointed when Blizzard announces they might do something people do want and then they don't.

Zhevra/Dance Studio anyone? XD

[Palladiamorsdeus]

It isn't a matter of Blizzard answering ALL of our requests. And actually for that matter, I don't see why it would be bad for them to at LEAST do some of them.

Silithid beetles? Eh, I could see that.

[Vephriel]

*nods* And I completely understand that sentiment Rikaku, no worries. I suppose I just tend to look at the Hunter class as a whole from a pet lover's view. Blizzard never had to give us such a variety. We could have been stuck with 3 families for the whole game and next to no models to choose from.

Little things like bringing back the Silithid Colossi, making Gezzarak tameable once more, and just designing new pets and abilities every expansion impresses me, though I know it won't be the same for everyone. Yes, to be honest I admit I'm disappointed by the lack of new species, but not enough that I'll complain after what we do have.

Still praying for Stags and Hydras at the least though. ^^

[bluddy]

hm never heard the ANNOUNCED zhevra's if they did...they have hell to pay!!!! gimme zhevra's!!!

[Rikaku]

*nods* And I completely understand that sentiment Rikaku, no worries. I suppose I just tend to look at the Hunter class as a whole from a pet lover's view. Blizzard never had to give us such a variety. We could have been stuck with 3 families for the whole game and next to no models to choose from.

Little things like bringing back the Silithid Colossi, making Gezzarak tameable once more, and just designing new pets and abilities every expansion impresses me, though I know it won't be the same for everyone. Yes, to be honest I admit I'm disappointed by the lack of new species, but not enough that I'll complain after what we do have.

Still praying for Stags and Hydras at the least though. ^^

I get that, and I am an absolute pet hunter. There's a reason hunter is the only class and main I've held for 5 near 6 years, and have been consistently BM for. I am an absolute pet-lover at my core.

and I agree, Blizzard didn't have to give us variety, but lets admit. They were bound to. Every expansion brings new pet families. So if they hadn't this expansion, it would've been just an outright poor choice on their part. Do I give them credit for adding more families? Sure.

But why'd they have to make the models so outdated looking?
Why is the tameable fox look like it's from Alpha WoW, while the untameable crab models look amazing? I mean that is something that bothers me. And pet models are important to me, I mean, that's why I never tamed Gondria cause the transparency shows off the model's old blocky texture.

And I am really impressed Blizzard kept all the old skins, and I applaud them for that. And bringing back Gezz is awesome. I love that kind of stuff.

My problem is tantalizing people with something they knew people wanted and then in the end not delivering. AKA Zhevra/Stag.
I know they weren't promised, but what Blizz did at Blizzcon and then now, I equate it to holding a juicy steak in front of your dog, and holding it just out of his reach for a minute before deciding to eat it yourself.

I feel that while I can love what they have done, I can also feel disappointed and cheated out a bit. Like the dog, I'll still play and be faithful, but that wasn't a very cool thing for Blizz to do. This happened with the Moths in TBC, this happened with the Dance Studio and now again with Zhevras.

I just am disappointed at that point =(

[Vephriel]

Yeah, I suppose that's the problem when Blizzard sets a standard and then is forced to keep that up. I think we're spoiled (in a good way!). We only expect all these new pets every expansion because that's what Blizzard has given us each time.

Warlocks have static selections for their demons. They can't go out and enslave demons of their choice, or even choose alternate colours/models for the existing ones.

I think a lot of work goes into something that ultimately only affects one class in the entire game, and that's why I'm grateful. We have hundreds of pet choices, and more show up every expansion.

So yeah, I definitely get where you're coming from, I guess I'm just sort of sentimental about the whole thing and love that we get as much as we do. x)

[Teigan]

Am I the only one not terribly upset with Blizz? They gave us some shiny new pets, maybe not all the shiny new pets implied but not promised, but still new. Also, they're giving us a whole new world!! Sure, I'll miss some old stuff, but, it's going to be almost like being a new player again! That is exciting. At least to me.
It's also the first time I've seen an expansion since I started playing, so maybe the excitement of that is greater than a few possible slights.

[Congafury]

hm never heard the ANNOUNCED zhevra's if they did...they have hell to pay!!!! gimme zhevra's!!!

Hey, Ghostcrawler!! Where is my Moose?! erm, Zhevra!!

[Rikaku]

Yeah, I suppose that's the problem when Blizzard sets a standard and then is forced to keep that up. I think we're spoiled (in a good way!). We only expect all these new pets every expansion because that's what Blizzard has given us each time.

Warlocks have static selections for their demons. They can't go out and enslave demons of their choice, or even choose alternate colours/models for the existing ones.

I feel like I always have ignored Warlocks, because lore-wise they shouldn't pick a pet so their pets should be static. They don't have pets, they have demon slaves. In fact, while our pets are called "So and So's Pet", Warlock's demons are called "So and So's Minion", so it stands to reason we have a better bond with our pets then a lock, thus more selection upon who our partner is. So I have never really equated Warlock as a pet class. Pets you love and care about, and I have yet to meet a Warlock who has cared enough about their demons to actually at points in the game, sacrifice DPS just to care about their pet XD

Vanilla BM Hunters anyone?

I think a lot of work goes into something that ultimately only affects one class in the entire game, and that's why I'm grateful. We have hundreds of pet choices, and more show up every expansion.

So yeah, I definitely get where you're coming from, I guess I'm just sort of sentimental about the whole thing and love that we get as much as we do. x)

Yes this is true. It does only affect one class in the game. But I mean like you stated before, they set the standard high on themselves, so yeah XD I do feel like expecting Cataclysm-level graphics on pets (like foxes and monkeys) isn't too hard on Blizzard lol

I'm sentimental. And like I said, I love what we have now. Will I still get a fox? Sure.
But my pet love can't make me not disappointed that some of the most part, this expansion has been mostly saving pets we already have/had and reskins. =(

So far, beyond one or two foxes, there just isn't anything to make my pet-collecting side happy.

Am I the only one not terribly upset with Blizz? They gave us some shiny new pets, maybe not all the shiny new pets implied but not promised, but still new. Also, they're giving us a whole new world!! Sure, I'll miss some old stuff, but, it's going to be almost like being a new player again! That is exciting. At least to me.
It's also the first time I've seen an expansion since I started playing, so maybe the excitement of that is greater than a few possible slights.

And like I said, this is strictly from my pet-love aspect. Because if I look at Hunter as a whole in Cataclysm, we are pretty good looking in Cataclysm. So really, my disappointment is only from my pet-love.

And I don't feel I'm 'terribly' upset.

I just don't feel our new pets are shiny. Compare Loque'nahak or even a Grovestalker Lynx from TBC to a Monkey in Cataclysm. The model difference is pretty amazing that even TBC model looks newer than a monkey (who is really just a blown-up minipet model). Like I stated above, I don't think holding Blizzard to their own model-quality standards for new expansion is that harsh XD

Overall I'm not even upset. Just disappointed, and I'm sure everyone here has something they're disappointed in with WoW. I know I'm not the only one rofl.

[Rarako]

Got to agree with what's been said, as many things as people said they wanted in the open forum for Cata that were never going to happen (tamable dragons, gnomes, etc.) they really should have taken a deeper look at what the hunter community was asking for. We weren't asking for "brand new stuff" all we really wanted boiled down to three things:
1. New skin variety and polished/updated models for existing families (normal cats, hyenas).
2. Allowing some beasts that were already in game and had plenty of variation to be made available, even if they was simply placed into existing families (kodo and clefthooves added to rhinos).
3. Pets that were viable so we weren't shoehorned into a "have to have" situation like all the other expansions (don't lie it's been like this since vanilla ;p ).

Did this happen? To be honest about the first two not really, yes some families were given a few new models (a good chunk of which were already in model viewer for quite some time now) and we were given a few new pets that have been in game for a while (beetles and brainbugs), but for the most part all I've seen is a handful of new families with about five skins each (see the first hunter request ^) and none of the families that hunters have been clamoring for since vanilla beta. When you take a look at it like that it's kind of disappointing. It really wouldn't take much to make basilisks and hydras tamable and they have plenty of skins, but instead they spent all their time making a handful of new skins for four non-existing families with no more than five variations. I just feel like they place their priorities differently than where the community expected as far as that goes, though I must admit I love what they have done with pet ability variations. ^_^

[Makoes]

I am dissapointed that, given that blizzard asked for hunter feedback on what pets they wanted to see tamable, that they didn't seem to actually do anything on that. Most of the seriouse posts had stags/talbuks/zhevra's as a much wanted new pet/family, as well as adding basilisks to the croc family, and clefthoofs/kodo's to the rhino family. And Adding hydra's as tamable pets. most requests had to do with making already exsisting models tamable, and they all pretty much have thier attack animation inplace anyhow, so its not like it would really be hard for blizzard to implement the change.
It's just dissapointing that they'd ask us what we want, and there was such a large general consensus on what we wanted, and for Blizzard to not act on that...why bother asking us then?

I want my juicy Steak dammit!!! Grrrrrrr!

[Rarako]

It's just disappointing that they'd ask us what we want, and there was such a large general consensus on what we wanted, and for Blizzard to not act on that...why bother asking us then?

My thought's exactly. If you want our opinion and we give it to you honestly and openly then why wouldn't you consider it? I think that whole topic was a fantastic brainstorm session on the part of the community, to just ignore it for the most part just seems snide, imo.

[cowmuflage]

To be truthfull i'd rather see new skins for familys that NEED them than some new shinny family. Really some need more skins and i'm not talking Spirit beasts and i do not care about them . Like worms or something that really needs it. I don't think we need new types just new skins.

[bluddy]

i think we need both...sorry a greedy man here.

[cowmuflage]

I don't think we do heck they ahve given us heaps all ready.