Troubleshot wrote:TygerDarkstorm wrote:BW on trash really doesn't kill its use for single target. With it glyphed (which all BM hunters should have now imo as it's only a major glyph) it's only ~1 minute CD. If you know you're coming up to a trash pull that's just before a boss, don't use it.
True enough about waiting on the BM activation, but I suspect that Cata is going to sneak in more pulls where you have a central tough mob that is surrounded by AE trash... I haven't been in beta, so maybe not. If they do, BM will be forced to do either/or damage rather than be effective at both.
TygerDarkstorm wrote: Since when did recount meters mean anything on trash anyway?
To be honest, as long as the bosses fall and the party progresses, Recount is meaningless "period". Doing 1k dps or 40k dps against a boss is meaningless as long as the boss dies and the repair bills are not piling up.
Recounts only actual use (IMHO anyway) is as a post-fight diagnostic to see where points can be shaved in order for better output (for those times when the bosses are NOT getting offed properly).
TygerDarkstorm wrote: This is just my two cents, and I hope the changes start weeding out bad/fotm hunters and pallies.
This only works to a small degree. When "weeding" gets to effective, people stop playing... then we cycle back to "bring on the easy" in order to encourage more less-skilled players to play. It's a cycle that will go on and on.
I agree entirely. I don't really believe in recount either, so long as shit dies that's all I care about. I was remarking on how others were concerned over their decline in dps. If you lost dps after the patch, I feel for you, but focus was Blizzard's original design for hunters, and it took them five years to implement it, so we're all stuck learning it as best we can.
Unfortunately, I haven't done any high end stuff in beta, no randoms or anything because I've been too lazy to copy addons over to beta, so I don't have insight as to how hunters are at the later levels. =(
I imagine that once we get our final tools, we'll be better off (like most other classes will be) after we start leveling and getting to 85. I think the goal with cata randoms will be more focus on taking out the target of the tank, and less focus on AoE (which is why AoE damage got nerfed across the board). I think we'll be planning BW use the same as we do now, weaving it on trash in between bosses.
And yes, if the "weeding" process is too harsh, we risk losing too many people who play the class. People who I know in game that are trying to re-learn their hunters, I always advise them to go BM. IMO, it's the easier of the specs to learn (I've never played MM so it may be easier) and one of the easiest ways to learn the focus system. At BM's simplest, you just hit KC on CD and SS to re-fuel focus. As you get comfortable, you start weaving in SrS, AS, KC, and SS together.