Taming King Krush

[Adam-Savage]

I know there is alot info out there on this elusive green bugger but you get one sight that says you do this and another that says you can't.. I really want this bugger but I just don't know how to tame him before he fears. My tame time is about 10 seconds and about 8 seconds into the fear he fears me each time..What works on him and what does not work on him ? Can I use a Cobalt Frag Bomb or Adamantite Grenade ? I just need those extra 2-3 seconds to pull the tame off before he fears me. I have a haste potion but I don't know how much time it would take off my tame time.

[Kurasu]

Having just got Krush no more than a couple hours ago, I can say that you don't really need a special trick to get him now. The 10 second tame timer is short enough even without haste that you can get him. Wait until he fears, then once you recover from it, immediately start taming. Then the big problem is surviving it.

However, 'what works on him', from what I've seen, is.... not a whole hell of a lot. A priest friend can Fear Ward you if your tame still isn't fast enough. You can also Bloodlust/Heroism (or use your Core Hound), Bestial Wraith and dismiss a pet (that one works quite well), have a priest friend slap Fear Ward on you...

[Lisaara]

Bestial Wrath doesnt help you anymore, Kurasu. They removed that helpful effect a few patches ago.

[Kurasu]

Really? That's weird. I have BW'ed out of quite a few different fears (and various other stuns/CCs). Or does it not make you immune for the duration and just cancel it when you cast it while mid-run?

[Lisaara]

Really? That's weird. I have BW'ed out of quite a few different fears (and various other stuns/CCs). Or does it not make you immune for the duration and just cancel it when you cast it while mid-run?

Doesn't make you immune. I think it was 4.0 or 4.0.3 that it was removed.

[Setanta]

I think I used a freezing trap to tame him after he had feared or punted me I don't remember which.

[Adam-Savage]

I noticed when I used a haste drink it only reduced my tame by 1 second. My current tame is 9 seconds give or take a few 10th of a second. That haste drink doubles my haste but I only got 1 second taken off my tame time ? That doesn't make much sense. 40 haste = 1/10th of a second ?

[Lisaara]

I think I used a freezing trap to tame him after he had feared or punted me I don't remember which.

Krush is immune to ALL traps. So I doubt you used a freezing trap.

[Adam-Savage]

Really? That's weird. I have BW'ed out of quite a few different fears (and various other stuns/CCs). Or does it not make you immune for the duration and just cancel it when you cast it while mid-run?

It will pull you of a fear or stun but you can be re stunned or feared while under it again.

[Kurasu]

Gotcha! That's a damned shame. In which case, drop my suggestion of BW out of the above. The others, I would hope, would still help out in their own ways.

Haste has diminishing returns. So it's not that 40 haste = 1/10th of a second as... uh... don't make me try and do the math. I suck at math. I just know that unless they've changed how it works on me haste will have diminishing returns. The more you have, the less each point does.

[Setanta]

I think I used a freezing trap to tame him after he had feared or punted me I don't remember which.

Krush is immune to ALL traps. So I doubt you used a freezing trap.

I probably used it, and it didn't work...I remember being wedged between two rocks from whatever he did to me. I think I throw it out habitually even if it's not going to work.

[Ryai]

Gotcha! That's a damned shame. In which case, drop my suggestion of BW out of the above. The others, I would hope, would still help out in their own ways.

Haste has diminishing returns. So it's not that 40 haste = 1/10th of a second as... uh... don't make me try and do the math. I suck at math. I just know that unless they've changed how it works on me haste will have diminishing returns. The more you have, the less each point does.

Actually I find this strange as I have quiet a bit of haste as it is, and I can get my tame beast down to about 6/7 seconds, without a haste pot it's pretty much at 10 seconds. Perhaps he had used the wrong speedpot?

[Adam-Savage]

Gotcha! That's a damned shame. In which case, drop my suggestion of BW out of the above. The others, I would hope, would still help out in their own ways.

Haste has diminishing returns. So it's not that 40 haste = 1/10th of a second as... uh... don't make me try and do the math. I suck at math. I just know that unless they've changed how it works on me haste will have diminishing returns. The more you have, the less each point does.

Actually I find this strange as I have quiet a bit of haste as it is, and I can get my tame beast down to about 6/7 seconds, without a haste pot it's pretty much at 10 seconds. Perhaps he had used the wrong speedpot?

I used potion of speed which increases your haste by 500 for 12 seconds.

[Ryai]

Gotcha! That's a damned shame. In which case, drop my suggestion of BW out of the above. The others, I would hope, would still help out in their own ways.

Haste has diminishing returns. So it's not that 40 haste = 1/10th of a second as... uh... don't make me try and do the math. I suck at math. I just know that unless they've changed how it works on me haste will have diminishing returns. The more you have, the less each point does.

Actually I find this strange as I have quiet a bit of haste as it is, and I can get my tame beast down to about 6/7 seconds, without a haste pot it's pretty much at 10 seconds. Perhaps he had used the wrong speedpot?

I used potion of speed which increases your haste by 500 for 12 seconds.

How much is your base haste? Going off the top of my head I am pretty sure Rosa, Ryai and Yas each have around 300-400ish haste, give or take a hundred. I know it's enough to get Steady shot to a 1.70 cast time atleast, for Yas and Ryai. The speed pot should be shaving atleast 2/3 seconds off your tame.

[Adam-Savage]

How much is your base haste? Going off the top of my head I am pretty sure Rosa, Ryai and Yas each have around 300-400ish haste, give or take a hundred. I know it's enough to get Steady shot to a 1.70 cast time atleast, for Yas and Ryai. The speed pot should be shaving atleast 2/3 seconds off your tame.

I have 489 haste right now from my gear. When I used my watch to time the tame from when I hit the button to when it was done It took 9 seconds. With the haste drink it went down to 8 seconds. I did this a couple times to make sure I was getting the right numbers.

[Ryai]

How much is your base haste? Going off the top of my head I am pretty sure Rosa, Ryai and Yas each have around 300-400ish haste, give or take a hundred. I know it's enough to get Steady shot to a 1.70 cast time atleast, for Yas and Ryai. The speed pot should be shaving atleast 2/3 seconds off your tame.

I have 489 haste right now from my gear. When I used my watch to time the tame from when I hit the button to when it was done It took 9 seconds. With the haste drink it went down to 8 seconds. I did this a couple times to make sure I was getting the right numbers.

One question: Was it via a macro? As I do it manually; IE drink, cast pray


Because if I remember right, I think it was Kalliope- not entirely 100% sure, who said they managed to get like a 2second tame beast cast.

[Adam-Savage]

I moved the tame beast to a hot key when I was testing. The drink last 15 seconds so I had enough time to drink it and have my finger on my watch while I used my other hand to press the hot key to tame the test pet.

When I used rapid fire, my 240 haste boost from my gloves and the drink then the tame was down to 7 seconds.

[Ryai]

I moved the tame beast to a hot key when I was testing. The drink last 15 seconds so I had enough time to drink it and have my finger on my watch while I used my other hand to press the hot key to tame the test pet.

Well, at anyrate it's not like it matters anymore; Rosalyn with her 15k[nearly] hp, almost managed to tame Krush, it was just the fear, it was to much. But I am assuming that you are higher level/have more hp. So just pull/pot, let him fear you, perhaps use a PVP trinket to break fear [you can get one for free basically from thrallmar/honor hold for the capture the 3 PVP spots], and hit tamebeast. 10 seconds, and 100% armor makes his hits [while crushing at times], survivable.

Edit: I think that's the problem, I know rapid fire [it was changed specifically for ranged attack haste I think too, now], and the gloves and or a pot stack, but I don't think the gloves and the pot stack. It might be while you have the pot up, the gloves actually negate it.

[Adam-Savage]

I moved the tame beast to a hot key when I was testing. The drink last 15 seconds so I had enough time to drink it and have my finger on my watch while I used my other hand to press the hot key to tame the test pet.

Well, at anyrate it's not like it matters anymore; Rosalyn with her 15k[nearly] hp, almost managed to tame Krush, it was just the fear, it was to much. But I am assuming that you are higher level/have more hp. So just pull/pot, let him fear you, perhaps use a PVP trinket to break fear [you can get one for free basically from thrallmar/honor hold for the capture the 3 PVP spots], and hit tamebeast. 10 seconds, and 100% armor makes his hits [while crushing at times], survivable.

Edit: I think that's the problem, I know rapid fire [it was changed specifically for ranged attack haste I think too, now], and the gloves and or a pot stack, but I don't think the gloves and the pot stack. It might be while you have the pot up, the gloves actually negate it.

3 tame attempts would killed me. I was able to take 2 tame attempts before I feigned death to recover my health. I do have a pvp trinket that will break his fear on me right away. I did notice the 2nd time it took longer for him to fear me.

[Ryai]

His fear is on, afaik a 8-15 second cooldown, it can be a bitch and have the 8 second cd crop up or what feels like it.

I'm curious, how much health/armor do you have?