Pet Usage Flowchart and Ability Spreadsheet

[Malazee]

Today I learned that mages are special. They really have 22 Arcane talents. There are only 21 Arcane talents on the tab. There is a phantom talent in there.

If you wonder why RaidChecklist can't seem to inspect mages at the moment, it's because of that ghost.

Wow, that's super weird... how do you go about fixing something like that?

Also:

• Removed Cleanse Spirit (Shaman) from the Remove Poison category
• Added Cleanse (Paladin) to the Remove Poison category

...I blame Excel's auto-fill, but I can't prove it >.>

[Anyia]

If you wonder why RaidChecklist can't seem to inspect mages at the moment, it's because of that ghost.

Wow, that's super weird... how do you go about fixing something like that?

I have to wait until either Blizzard fixes it, or the LibGroupTalents people come up with a workaround. Alternatively I could write my own talent inspection handling, but a) I don't like "reinventing wheels", and b) I'll be busy leveling in Cataclysm very soon!

If it isn't resolved by the time Anyia is raid-ready, I'll go ahead and fix it myself somehow.

Also:

• Removed Cleanse Spirit (Shaman) from the Remove Poison category
• Added Cleanse (Paladin) to the Remove Poison category

...I blame Excel's auto-fill, but I can't prove it >.>

RaidChecklist has been updated to reflect this, and I've finally taken it out of beta. Those of you who have your curse client set to only pull release builds should now finally get all the goodies of individual ability scanning.

[Malazee]

Someone's going to have to fill me in since I haven't leveled my hunter yet: does the Shale Spider have a special ability yet, and if so, what is it?

[Kalliope]

Nope, shale spiders still only have an exotic ability. No regular one yet.

[Malazee]

Nope, shale spiders still only have an exotic ability. No regular one yet.

-_-;;

Someone should alert Noah. Though something tells me he probably already knows.

[Kalliope]

Nope, shale spiders still only have an exotic ability. No regular one yet.

-_-;;

Someone should alert Noah. Though something tells me he probably already knows.

*nod* My guess is that he already knows and that this is one of the things that somehow ended up missing the release patch, but is still on a to-do list.

[Malackai]

Nope, shale spiders still only have an exotic ability. No regular one yet.

don't know if it was posted yet

If you have a priest in the group with a stamina buff and you pull the shale spider out it seems to stack?
(both buffs were up and the health increased even further of the party)

I have no clue if it picked the "embrace" buff over the priest buff because its better or that they do indeed stack >_>

anyone knows?

[Kalliope]

Nope, shale spiders still only have an exotic ability. No regular one yet.

don't know if it was posted yet

If you have a priest in the group with a stamina buff and you pull the shale spider out it seems to stack?
(both buffs were up and the health increased even further of the party)

I have no clue if it picked the "embrace" buff over the priest buff because its better or that they do indeed stack >_>

anyone knows?

That's because Embrace of the Shale Spider is the same as Mark of the Wild or Blessing of Kings, not a duplicate of the priest stamina buff. They *should* stack!

[Malackai]

ah completely forgot about the druid buff >_>

[pengupuff]

Have any other MM/surv hunters been spamming the hell out of their ravagers?
I've found that the 4% increased physical damage debuff ravagers give is just plain ugly. >:D

[Malazee]

Arise chicken... chicken: arise!

Minor updates:

• Added the missing ID for Arcane Torrent (all 5 should be there now)
• Added Mind Control under a new CC category called "Control." It just doesn't fit into any other category.
• Added Dalaran Brilliance as a bonus mana ability (this is really redundant since mages already have Arcane Brilliance, but I guess I'm being thorough...)

In other news: Shale Spiders still do not have a second ability. ಠ_ಠ

[Kalliope]

Ooh, if you're adding mind control, enslave demon is sort of a similar effect....but not really. Just tossing that out there.

I wonder if the second shale spider ability will pop up in the first patch.

[Malazee]

Brilliant! And yes, I believe that very much would qualify as a "Control." So warlocks can CC two demons at a time, apparently (three if you count fear). OP! Will have to add that one.

[Basher]

First off: Good Job! Just got linked the spreadsheet by a guildie. However, I couldn't see any mention of the 50% daze effect that shield bash gives the target. It lasts 6 seconds.

[Malazee]

New notes today for the 4.0.6 patch currently on the PTR, and this is all I have to say:

HOORAY SHALE SPIDERS!!

Pets

* Pets now have 70% of the master's armor, rather than a different value based on which type of pet they are.
* Shale Spiders now correctly have a special ability (Web Wrap).
* Bad Manner (monkey) now properly breaks from damage.

Quick! Someone on the PTR tell me what this ability is so I can finally complete my spreadsheets!!

First off: Good Job! Just got linked the spreadsheet by a guildie. However, I couldn't see any mention of the 50% daze effect that shield bash gives the target. It lasts 6 seconds.

Thanks! The daze effect on shield bash is equivalent to a 50% slow, so I will add it to the spreadsheet under that category since you are technically correct (the best kind of correct!).

[Kalliope]

Web Wrap is a 3s stun on a 45s cooldown. Wowhead page is here.

And you still have Bad Manner as a blind, right? Cause now it'll work properly.

[Malazee]

Thanks Kalliope, I didn't realize wowhead had a PTR mirror!

Changes since the last update:

• Added Enslave Demon as a Control effect
• Added Shield Bash as a Slow/Snare
• Updated Rebuke with the 4.0.6 changes (now trained rather than talented)
• Added Shale Spiders' long-awaited special ability Web Wrap as a stun

The pet ability list is now finally complete! /party

[Lisaara]

Sadness, the flowchart doesnt mention spirit beasts. My guildies loved mine cause it was bringing an extra healer along for the OHCRAP situations.

[Kalliope]

Teensy error on the spreadsheet: boars don't get rest, just bears. Unless this is different on live, my boar on the PTR doesn't have it.

[Malazee]

Teensy error on the spreadsheet: boars don't get rest, just bears. Unless this is different on live, my boar on the PTR doesn't have it.

Boars and bears both had Rest on the Beta, since I clearly remember testing that out... but I haven't seen or used a boar since then TBH. Wowhead isn't showing it as a boar ability either, so you're probably right that it was removed. I'll do a quick check on live and then update. Thanks!

I also need to adjust the cd/duration on Dust Cloud.