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Kalliope wrote:Back when I had only played a hunter to max level, I felt extremely wronged by this sort of treatment. It's only after years of being in other classes' shoes that I've started to understand why the rest of the playerbase resents us.
It's still wrong treatment tho to treat good hunters, as huntards, when I have seen retards, protards, tanktards for droods and wars, stupid healers..
Mmhmm.

I didn't say otherwise.

I *hate* being talked down to as a hunter at this point; I've leveled so many that I know damned well what I'm doing.

However, we get lumped in with the rest.
Ryai wrote:Tho I have to admit sometimes the worst players aren't dps classes, they're the hybrids.
Yep. The two most offensive classes I've seen for many months now have been dks and paladins.

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Kalliope wrote:@Harpier: The hunter may have been the alt of the tank/healer and why they were doing the run to begin with. Ignore that crap; that's a lazy LAZY group.
Nah, it didn't seem like it. All of us had the Dungeon Cooldown, and the hunter was from a different server than them entirely.

I'm still a little PO'd, but I'll get over it. :/

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Kalliope wrote:@Harpier: The hunter may have been the alt of the tank/healer and why they were doing the run to begin with. Ignore that crap; that's a lazy LAZY group.
Nah, it didn't seem like it. All of us had the Dungeon Cooldown, and the hunter was from a different server than them entirely.

I'm still a little PO'd, but I'll get over it. :/
Then they queued for the instance for....no reason? lol... Buncha noobs.

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Well if anyone needs a lol...

Just had a priest from mag, an Spriest, to be exact..

Who decided He was the tank.

Luckily while everyone else bailed the rogue didn't bail on me :|
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Oh geez I think I know that guy. If you were running at around 75 on Alliance then it might have been him. He would not listen to anyone and kept barging into mobs while we pleaded. Our group fell apart fast, too. Is it a hobby of his?
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Some people like griefing and do that sort of thing on purpose. :/

I don't understand why your groups didn't just kick him....dps is easy to replace. Actually had a similar sort of situation with a level 60 dk in Dire Maul last night on my warrior. He kept running ahead of me and pulling more packs while the casters were attempting to drink. I told him to queue as a tank if he wanted to tank. I wasn't going to pull stuff off him and let him die, but someone else in the group got fed up and votekicked him. That happily left me free to kick the d/ced spriest later in the instance...but that's a whole other (less interesting) story. The point was, we made it to the end rather than falling apart. :)

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Kalliope wrote:I don't understand why your groups didn't just kick him....dps is easy to replace.
Actually, anything is easy to replace. A HoS group I was in on Stereo went trough three tanks. One did'nt save the healer from some mobs he got feared into, because "i dont tank ninjapulls". He then acted like an elitist after the healer had to run and ress, because little bear "i dont ress ninjapullers". He got swiftly votekicked at that point. The second one was a retadin using a twohander, who didn't know what those little icons at the top of LFG window was, and he had just checked everything "cuz i get groups faster nub". He left after the healer didn't heal him (my pet tanked trough Freya, while he sort-of stole aggro sometimes.). The third one had a great spec, average gear, and he was kind. He could'nt hold aggro though, he even warned us at the start, and left on his own when we asked him. We ended up with a pally who was sort of average.

It took around two minutes each time to find a new tank.

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No this was lv 40 bracket and EU side. BUT NICE TO KNOW YOU KNOW OF HIS DOUPLEGSANGER.

hur.

Just had another fail drood.

Is moonkin.

Says he'll be needing for feral.

He takes caster staff...

He takes melee pokearm..

he ninja's a useless staff and only I call him out on it; he starts calling me a retard, stupid and all that and claiming he needs it for Resto if he gets aggro, cause oh idk evidently +3 sec stun on hit is more important than intel, spirit and spell power for Resto!

Then everything goes pearshaped and we've cleared most of ZF anyways so I just leave group cause I don't really care about downing Ghaz or staying with them a moment longer. I do feel bad about bailing on them like that, but we were dying anyways. Someone pulled way to much trash and I was just going oom faster than sin.
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Kalliope wrote:Some people like griefing and do that sort of thing on purpose. :/

I don't understand why your groups didn't just kick him....
He was pulling like mad, so I couldn't. You can't kick while in combat. He didn't give me a chance. We knew we were going to suffer a painful death before we got him kicked.
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Mmm. Jerks. Don'tcha love 'em?

I remember one time I was trying to gear up Azu, while learning the feral priority list. ("Ohplease! Shoot me now! I never want to deal with this again! I fail!") Feral list is pretty hard, you've got to remember all sorts of crud to keep up. (I use Badkitty now. Much better.) So, anyway, Azu had fairly poor gear, some eviserator blues mainly with Ice Striker's, I think.

I'm at the bottom by a fair bit, struggling. The mage is all, "Wow. Fail DPS." I reply that I'm gearing up and trying to get feral rotation. She immediately goes on about her druid and how she's better. Group defends me and tells her to shut up.

We come to the Brann fight. Well, everything is going to merry heck. Mobs everywhere and it's just chaos. I shift bear, grab some loose adds, and try to help the tank out. Lazer beams decide to go right on me. Because of all the mobs, I don't see it until I'm dead. The priest is all, "Lol. Druids seem to die a lot of this fight. :D" The mage pops up again, "With my druid, I never die."

I've learned it's best to group with friends and guildies, especially if the guildie always dominates the recount and your guild is top 5 for 10 man stuff on the server. No questions you then! *cackles*
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Azunara, that sounds alot like the shammy that bullied and antagonized me for using AotV.

Don't you just love people like that.


who I bet fail harder than a light trying to escape a blackhole
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Kalliope wrote:I don't understand why your groups didn't just kick him....dps is easy to replace.
Actually, anything is easy to replace at level 80.
Fixed.

I agree, but it can be rougher in the lower brackets sometimes. It depends on how many people are queuing at that time in your bracket.
Ryai wrote:he ninja's a useless staff and only I call him out on it; he starts calling me a retard, stupid and all that and claiming he needs it for Resto if he gets aggro, cause oh idk evidently +3 sec stun on hit is more important than intel, spirit and spell power for Resto!
lmfao. That's one of the most useless pieces in the game.
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Kalliope wrote:Some people like griefing and do that sort of thing on purpose. :/

I don't understand why your groups didn't just kick him....
He was pulling like mad, so I couldn't. You can't kick while in combat. He didn't give me a chance. We knew we were going to suffer a painful death before we got him kicked.
Ugh. >_<

The quick and dirty solution to that goes as follows:
  • Get the rest of the group to hang back.
  • Let the jackass run ahead and keep pulling.
  • Watch him die.
  • Kick him while he's dead.
Even if a tank's gear is better than he is, he's eventually going to run out of hp.

This strat is why I don't understand tanks who treat their groups like crap. If they don't help you, you're going to die eventually, at least until you overgear the instance dramatically and are decent at keeping yourself up.

The long and short of it is, it pays to know what you're doing, regardless of your role.
Azunara wrote:We come to the Brann fight. Well, everything is going to merry heck. Mobs everywhere and it's just chaos. I shift bear, grab some loose adds, and try to help the tank out. Lazer beams decide to go right on me. Because of all the mobs, I don't see it until I'm dead. The priest is all, "Lol. Druids seem to die a lot of this fight. :D" The mage pops up again, "With my druid, I never die."
I bet the mage dies a lot on his mage, though. ;)

Seriously, I hate these people who are rude for the sake of being rude.
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Did you know that a black hole's gravitational pull is because it has in theory, a super massive object in its core, namely the remnants of an imploded star?

And yeah. And there was one time I had forgotten to switch my tourney lance for my weapon...Oh boy. You can imagine the "fails!" and "lolz". To be fair, it -was- my fault. Now, nobody will let it die either. It's always, "Don't forget to reequip your weapon!"

...It was kind of funny though. It explained why my DPS was lower than usual.
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Azunara wrote:Did you know that a black hole's gravitational pull is because it has in theory, a super massive object in its core, namely the remnants of an imploded star?

And yeah. And there was one time I had forgotten to switch my tourney lance for my weapon...Oh boy. You can imagine the "fails!" and "lolz". To be fair, it -was- my fault. Now, nobody will let it die either. It's always, "Don't forget to reequip your weapon!"

...It was kind of funny though. It explained why my DPS was lower than usual.
Don't feel bad. I can't tell you how many times I was fishing while waiting for the queue and just barely remembered to re-equip my weapon. On my Death Knight, I actually was into a few mobs before I realized. I quietly fixed it. No one said anything. (whew)

I also did an entire boss fight with Aspect of the Viper on. Fortunately we got him down with no problem. If we died I would have felt really bad.

I run out of ammo in dungeons more often than I'd like to admit. I wish I had some kind of warning.

Mistakes like that are only a big deal with an asshole group. What people fail to realize a lot is if it's going fine, it doesn't matter if everyone isn't doing elite DPS or whatever.
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Best part? We were doing CoS...

We got the Gauntlet before someone noticed. xD
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Azunara wrote:Best part? We were doing CoS...

We got the Gauntlet before someone noticed. xD
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I hate it when people leave groups at the drop of a hat while whining about how "fail" the group is, or without any words at all. Seriously, we wiped once. Don't be a sore loser. Just calmly state that something makes you want to leave the group, and I'll understand.

I like doing guild runs and more organized PuGs, probably because people aren't all like "u guyz r f**in retardz w/ down syndrome." My last 25-man Uld PuG was especially relaxed. Nobody seemed to fight over gear, and the people on Vent managed to remain calm even in the face of wiping.

Oh, and using "gay", "down syndrome", and stuff like that as an insult just grinds my gears.
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Just had the most WONDERFUL group for HoR. /sarcasam

Druid and Rogue were both dicks, snapping at me about how my DPS sucked when I was in BM and I had sucky armor that I was at the moment trying to upgrade. Of course it's gonna suck, I haven't been BM for awhile, nor did I have the UBER DOOBER DROOD tank armor he did. Anyways, I switch to MM after they comment on if I was carried through the dungeon after I said I got through this before and I just full out call the dude an ass, because he was and I was pretty much strangling myself with the end of my rope. Not two seconds later I get kicked. They didn't even give me a chance to DPS as MM before doing so.

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ST group: just one thing has happened to make me actually wish for the focus change that Blizz is going to impliment in hunters.

Why do I ask? Why you ask? What crappy hunter did our dear Ryai run into that actually made her change her mind about something she was dreading?

An MM hunter. In caster cloth. Defending it because 166 intell gave her 166 Ap. She could barely manage multishotting, let alone doing anything else.

Her cat was also named cat and she couldn't see to grasp you have to do more, than melee.

Then she tries to make herself feel better by calling me a noob, retard, nub and stupid.

Then irony.

I offered help for Aria, she had a headache, still wanted to do daily. Go on my pally, get Tauntmaster up, decide fiddling with Xperl can wait. We get a group as once again there's NO tanks up and Caim is like the only tank or something my god. But fine. Fine, I'm getting used to tanking, even tho his offspecc is becoming his main specc /weep.

There's a hunter who it seems, decides, I don't need manabreaks, and I don't need chances to pull for myself. He's throwing up MD whenever possible, pulling trash to me, forcing me to blow my taunts on just him as he's not bleeding FDing, tho Aria said he did atleast once or twice. Which means the ones I do have to worry about, IE Aria when she Crits or the healer are left alone and just zsdfsdaf.

It was far from fun, being hustled by an impatient raider to run NEXUS ffs faster than I was ready.

Even when I was struggling to keep Keri off him, he never slowed his DPS down!
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So, after about 30 times through Pit of Saron to get my crossbow, it finally drops. I hit Need and... I get outrolled by a Shaman.
That two weeks ago and I've been farming it every day since, so maybe 45 times through now. /sigh.
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