Stable ideas for a maybe baby hunter?

[gigandetsgirl]

I was actually able to tame him tonight! It took some help from daddy Constantyne, but he was able to spot him from above and clear the surrounding mobs so Bastienne could slip in for a smooth tame I'm actually not sure why Snort spoke to me so much - I do like hyenas, and I think the color is great, but for some reason he seems to just fit Bastienne:

He is nameless right now, but I've got some possibilities in mind! I have your exact same problem of waiting until the perfect name strikes me; sometimes I think I am a little ridiculous with it, but the right name just has to click. I absolutely LOVE your ideaology behind the bears, and the fact that their daughter will have their cub! It's just absolutely perfect. I have been toying with the idea of changing Whitnee's class, and one of my possibilities is a hunter - if I go that route, she will probably end up with a white wolf, and Bastienne could get a gray one

[Quiv]

Oh yeah they do go good together. I am a bit more impatient with my tames though, I just go blazing in. I died taming one of those elite black wolves in Redridge, but I got it!

How are you going to change Whitnee's class?? I assume you mean delete and just start over?

It finally hit me how Rendir and Salaina met, I am working out the full details and I kinda wanna write it as a short story. I am going to portray Rendir as a Beastmaster, Salaina as a Marksman, and their daughter as a Survival hunter (mainly because the daughter often runs away on her own, and she is good at survival in the wilderness, resourceful etc). I am also considering either the name Hannah or Aimee for the daughter.

Anyway, the basic part is both Rendir and Salaina were in Un'goro for reasons yet determined, and Rendir stumbled upon her running away from a Devilsaur. Turns out that though she had strong bonds with other beasts, she didn't have what it takes to subdue an devilsaur, they were just to primal, to exotic, but she always wanted an Ironhide. Rendir, on the other hand does, and he was able to soothe the beast and get it to stop chasing her. He noticed the nearby nest and thats how they realized the devilsaur was especially violent because it was protecting its young. I am not sure if it is going to happen on the spot or later on, but Rendir will name the devilsaur after Salaina (totally stole that idea from you, sorry! ) and will be the only non white pet he has. Salaina finally gets her devilsaur, she just has to hang around this goofy blood elf to see it.

which leads me to ask have you come up with Constantyne and Whitnee's meeting?

[gigandetsgirl]

Yup, that is exactly what I am planning. It was my husband who initially created her as a warrior, and I’m just not very good at the class at all. Right now, I’m leaning towards a druid – probably a restoration or balance one, as I’m not horribly keen as her running around as an animal with a hunter husband

I love both names for the daughter, but I really like Aimee! I’m a sucker for French names – that’s how the original Bastien, and now Bastienne, got theirs.

Their meeting is perfect! I think it’s just absolutely perfect for two hunters to meet over – what else – a beloved pet? And I love that he names the devilsaur after her, and that it’s the unique one in his collection So sweet! And I like that you call him a goofy blood elf, by the by… Whitnee frequently calls Constantyne her “silly elf” and picks on him about his hair

Constantyne and Whitnee’s meeting still has a few gaps in it, but I do have the rough outline of it made up. When the Forsaken invaded Gilneas, Whitnee’s family was killed and she was the only survivor. Having been previously infected with the worgen curse, the Forsaken only kept her alive in hopes of either experimenting on her or turning her into a slave – or even a member of the undead. She was caught, caged, and hauled off to Silverpine Forest, where she was kept locked up with other worgen in anticipation of Sylvanas’ instruction.

Constantyne was stationed in Silverpine at the time, and by chance happened upon the cage bearing Whitnee. He’d been warned by his superiors that the worgen were nothing but foul, violent beasts, but when he looked into her eyes he didn’t see a monster; he saw a human. At the risk of very possibly being charged with treason, Constantyne released Whitnee from her cage and she promptly attacked him in a fit of teeth and claws. From that moment onward is where my thoughts of them get fuzzy – I’m not sure how he gets her to stop from killing him, because in her eyes he is aligned with the Horde and therefore those who killed her family.

One of the things they bond over is actually the fact that both of them lost family – Whitnee hers, and Constantyne his beloved father – due to an invasion on their homeland.

On that same note of family, I played around with the WoW Model Viewer this morning for fun and created images of Constantyne and Whitnee’s family – so far. I wasn’t sure what to do about clothing, since none of them really have any iconic armor or outfits or anything like that, so everyone but Whitnee just got stuck in a tier set I thought looked nice enough Since Whitnee’s class is up in the air at the moment, she just got some nice casual clothes!

Anyway, this is what I had in mind for Constantyne’s parents, Bastien and Annemarie:



Bastien was, as I’m sure I rambled about before, a powerful war mage who specialized in arcane magic and was highly revered in Silvermoon as one of their strongest fighters. Annemarie was a revered holy priestess who absolutely fell apart after she lost her husband. She began dabbling in the dark magic, and to this day actively practices the shadow arts. As you can imagine, Constantyne worries about her all the time, and goes to visit her when he can.

And then, of course, there is Constantyne and Whitnee – both as a human, and a worgen.



And finally, Bastienne!



Wow this was a long post… time for me to shut up

[Airwyn]

Cute, I liked reading about all of their histories, its neat

[Quiv]

Long posts are no problem for me, like I said I am fascinated by this stuff.

I really liked Constantyne and Whitnee's story, the shared experience of having their homeland invaded is a real strong point. a great bond will be formed over that. I really like that. And the idea of Whitnee being captured and Constantyne being there is really full of options. First thing that popped in my mind is maybe she gets a touch of Stockholm syndrome, but I really doubt you wanna give your character a psychological disorder But yeah its ripe with potential! One thing I am not sure about for my two is alignment with Horde and Alliance. I personally am not a big fan of all the politics involved in that, and I dont know if I want to write about it to explain it away. i am not sure how I am going to handle that.

If you want tips about warrior, I have one at 85 and really enjoyed it, I can help you if youd like to keep her a warrior, arms warrior at least. Talents, glyphs, rotation, whatever. But it is funny you mention a druid. On my original server, i just plain ran out of spaces, all 10 filled up, 9 of which are 85 (all class except mage). so i decided to load up an 85 with gold and heirlooms and jump to another server to start a new batch of alts. my first 2 were night elf sisters, Meakah and Waellah Stormbough. Meakah was a druid and Waellah a hunter, both in close touch with nature but in very different ways. Druid draw on the power of nature, while hunters are in tune with beasts of nature. I was building a whole story until I got so into this hunter family I am building haha.

I really need to work out my model viewer because you did pretty exactly what I would like to do. Its just when I view each item, it takes like a full 5 seconds to load. 5 seconds isnt a lot but when theres hundreds and hundreds of items per slot to look at, I dont have that patience lol. everyone looks good, I would like to see what Annemarie looks like now that she is dabbling in darker magic probably something more like a warlock now.

[gigandetsgirl]

Thank you so much, Airwyn! I’m so glad I have a place where I can share this kind of stuff now

And Quivering, I’m so glad you aren’t sick of all my rambles – Lord knows you’ve endured them a lot the past couple of days! Stockholm syndrome is actually a very real possibility that I never even thought about before; she is so desperate after having lost all her family that it might be part of what brings them together, instead of making her want to just kill him. And even if she doesn’t have an actual psychological disorder, she could still have those same sort of intense emotions flowing through her. I know what you mean about the Horde/Alliance politics. Constantyne joined the Horde after Bastien died because he wanted to strike back at the Scourge, and I feel that Whitnee is really with the Alliance for the same reason. They are both more loyal to their homeland and to their families – and each other – than they are the Alliance or Horde as a whole. They obviously don’t put much thought into the two sides, considering their relationship

You are so sweet to offer about giving me tips on keeping her as a warrior! Right now, I am trying out playing her as a druid and possibly as a hunter, too, and I am going to try again as a warrior as well, and just figure out which one clicks. Part of my problem is I have some nerve damage in my hands so melee classes aren’t always the easiest for me to play. I think it’s so cool that you had druid/hunter sisters – they do seem to complement each other so wonderfully.

The loading time on WMV is definitely a pain, that’s why none of my characters outfits are very creative – I looked up tier sets on wowwiki and picked ones I thought would look good, so I wouldn’t just be sifting through WMV forever. And you have totally inspired me to play around with what the darker Annemarie looks like now! Back to WMV I go

[Airwyn]

You both were talking about how druids and hunters compliment eachother, well I have a hunter main and an alt druid (both 85) that I love to play and in my little world for them, they're the best of friends who grew up together and have adventured together You're really starting to inspire me to write stories for my own characters! WoW was starting to get a bit boring but I think this will put some life back into my characters, thank you for that

[Quiv]

It really does put life back into it, its wild. I have my main character, who I do the raiding and dungeoning and mount collecting and dailies and all of that stuff on.

But with these alts, playing them and giving them stories and reason for doing this or that is just a whole new way to play the game. I wish Rendir and Salaina wasnt on the same account, I would love to take screenshots of them interacting together, like her running from a ticked off Ironhide Devilsaur and Rendir laughing at her.

[gigandetsgirl]

Oh Airwyn, I am so glad! Making up all these stories is what keeps the game fresh for me, too. Especially after you level up that first character, no matter what class or race or faction you play things after that start getting repetitive. It’s how I keep things fun and I am so glad it’s working for somebody else!

I played with WMV some, and indeed this is how I picture the “new” Annemarie – very dark and warlock-y.



Before Bastien died, Annemarie worked in Silvermoon, healing and offering spiritual guidance to soldiers who would return wounded from battle. After losing her husband, however, she took a turn for the dark and has now rededicated her life to destroying as many members of the Scourge as she can. She used to wear bright, girly colors – light blues, lavenders, and pinks – but the new Annemarie favors bloody red colors, dark purples and blacks. She also cut off her long hair; I have a feeling Bastien always loved it, and it hurt her too much to look into the mirror and see that reflection.

So, you can definitely see why Constantyne worries about his dear mother so much…

[Quiv]

Ooh yeah that portrays her descent into shadow very well! All this talk of family, I guess I need to reveal some of my toons background. Still tinkering with the details.

I think I am going to portray Rendir's family as a family of Silvermoon rangers. Not necessary of note among the ranks, but skilled nonetheless. Rendir would be the one who had the connection to beasts his father and brother did not (I am not sure about the mother). As a family of rangers, Rendir was a bit of an oddball. While his brother should hit a bulls eye from a great distance, and then split the first arrow with a second on the bulls eye, Rendir was able control, almost communicate, with the lynx and dragonhawks around Silvermoon. He knew he would not fit in as a ranger, so he eventually left Silvermoon.

Salaina I am going to portray as orphaned early on in her life. I wanted to use Deathwing's attack on Auberdine as the event that orphaned her, but I dont think that happened long enough ago (~10-15 years ago) to use. Either way, she ended up being raised by Night Elfs communally. She took a particular interest to a night elf marksman. She clung to this hunter and learned from her, learned how to shoot with precision, shoot on the run, etc. Being orphaned toughened her up, made her suspicious and a bit of a "tough cookie" to deal with.

I had some other characters that I may integrate in. I mentioned above the Stormbough sisters. I also have an excentric fearless gnome warrior named Ixxa, a wise old dwarf shaman named Merris, and a draenei mage named Miall. I may work them together in the story, I dont know.

[gigandetsgirl]

Oh wow, I love Rendir's story! It's like he fits into the family but was a bit of an oddball at the same time. And that seems so fitting, especially for a beast master hunter.

And I really love Salaina's story, too. Deathwing's attack would have been perfect, but you're right in that I don't think i twould have happened long enough ago if you are trying to stay close to the WoW timeline. I have a feeling she's going to be really stubborn, and tough, and downright frustrating for Rendir to get through to I love it!

I think it would be an awesome idea to integrate even more characters in! I have pictured a couple of characters who would be friends of Whitnee and Constantyne - for Whitnee, I thought a night elf since they helped the worgen so greatly, and I'm not sure about Constantyne. My focus has primarily been on them, but I would like to branch out with more characters soon, too Your other characters sound awesome - I really like the idea of an eccentric, fearless gnome warrior.

You know, I had a thought, and maybe I should stop now before I make another new character but... What if Bastien was raised as a death knight?

[Quiv]

oooooh what an idea! that would certainly throw a kink in the story, especially if Annemarie found out. that could create a really nice plot twist.

and like the knights of the ebon blade, redemption isnt out of the question if he goes renegade against the Lich King. he would serve under Highlord Darion Mograine most likely.

i am very curious to see if you do anything with that angle.

[gigandetsgirl]

That's what I was thinking!!! I wonder how he would find Annemarie and Constantyne again, since the death knights don't remember much or anything of their former life... unless he got faced with one or the other in battle? Ohh... my mind is just spinning with ideas right now and I'm at work!!!

[Quiv]

I need to figure out more pets for Salaina, the black theme. I am overflowing on Rendir, my list is probably too long. Salaina, on the other hand, I am coming up short.

As a theme, it makes sense for the beastmaster to have more pets. As a character though, I want a full stable haha. There are plenty of black pets, but I find myself being picky with Salaina. It is kinda weird, but I suppose it fits.

[gigandetsgirl]

I think it fits, too. And I know what you mean about a full stable - Constantyne really ever only has Whitney out, but in-game his stable is nonetheless full. There are just too many amazing pets out there to let those spaces go to waste! As for Salaina's pets, I see them being a lot like her: strong, independent, confident, beautiful, and deadly if provoked too far. I'm sure you've already combed through all the black pets, but these are the ones I really like for her - in addition to her bear and black widow. For some reason, I really like cats and birds for her.

I'm still in debate about Bastien. I fear that him coming back might be a little too happily-ever-after... but it would be such a fun twist, and I've always wanted to start a death knight but have never decided how one would fit in with my characters.

[Quiv]

I have the black fox, humar, shadowclaw, takk, and a black boar already. I am thinking of switching the black boar to the armored one you shown though, I forgot about those. and there is a grey (white?) version for Rendir so they can have a pair of armored pigs

I really dont want to try to sway you either way about Bastien just because I think something is cool, but the death knight angle I think is really cool haha. However, I do see the dilemma. If you dont do the redemption story, then you probably have to kill him, as I dont know if death knights remain "evil" upon Arthas' death. Of course I have this idea in my head, but ultimately the purity of the characters and their stories are yours alone to choose. If nothing else, fool around in the WMV with it

[gigandetsgirl]

You are already ahead of me, then! You know, I am kind of shocked there aren't more black pets - there just doesn't seem to be nearly as many as I would think. I like the black boar, but I think the armored ones look even cooler! I tamed that one with Constantyne a while back, but it just never really suited him. I LOVE the fel boars too, but same thing, they just don't fit him well. That's why I think one would be such a great match for your rebel girly

I think I might play around with WMV some But I'm with you, I think it is really cool - death knights are just cool in general, really. I don't think I could handle putting everyone through killing him again - I can't imagine Annemarie going any nuttier - so if he comes back, there would certainly be a redemption story involved. It just makes sense, the more I think about it, that Arthas might like him for a death knight since he was so widely revered in his homeland.

[gigandetsgirl]

Well, I wrote a story about Bastien during some slow periods at work today... it's about his death, but it's kind of serving as an inspiration for his possible rebirth...

http://forums.wow-petopia.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12352

[Quiv]

I will take a look when I get home and have to read.

[Quiv]

Yeah that is a great start if you were going to do a death knight with him. You really are good at painting a picture and sucking us into it, I really want to read more

I wasn't able to use the name Aimee for the child, or any derivative of it. Everything is taken on my realm >< Aimee, Aime, Aymee, Ayme... Ive tried every variant I can think of. Right now I have it as Aylee, but I am not 100% on that one. I fear Hannah and its variants are also spoken for though.