Tamer's remorse

[Quiv]

Kinda like buyer's remorse, only for taming. Had a good night of rares (after a dry spell), but I kinda ran into these tames accidently. I like your guys opinions, but I dont want to start a flame war either.

Here is the scenario. Ran into a couple rares, and tamed them. When I ran into them, I wasn't out to get them at the time but I got them anyway.

Skarr: I was camping Kirix and Skarr popped up on my tracking (npcscan is useless in molten front, EVERYTHING caches in minutes via pets). Anyway I run to him, get in line, other hunters failed, I tamed. Now I want Skarr, and I waited my turn, but I wasn't out there for him that time.

Solix: I want Kirix, not Solix. However Solix popped, he was up for about 30 minutes, a few people tried to kill him, announce in General but no hunters attempted to tame (btw watching these spiders maim people through eagle eye is so much fun.) Finally I announced "if no one wants Solix, i'll tame him." waited another 5, tamed. I have him, don't really want him :\

Red Madexx: I want blue, I like red, but I want blue. I will post a picture of my hunter, and blue would go AMAZING with this toon. But I tamed red. It was... almost knee-jerk reaction. NPC-Scan blares, DISMOUNT, TAME! It's habitual after all the camping I have done, Im just so used to waiting for the alarm and immediately taming.

Am I bad? I kinda feel bad, especially about Solix.

Pic of hunter with red, blue would go perfect though.

[Loffter]

naw. I tame stuff all the time if its rare, whether i want it or not.

As far as watching people die to the new rarespawns it IS fun. I was having trouble figuring out Skarr, as a double BM hunter, and so I Was staring him down, and a horde rogue runs by, targets me, then targets skarr, runs over and attempts to kill skarr. a couple of fireballs later he dropped. it was great.

[Kurenio]

Your not bad. You tamed them fairly and did not tame steal.... I feel bad to because I'm rehoming 4 of the new rares to my baby hunter once she hits 85 when I should've just waiting and tamed them on her instead of once on my main hunter and then her... I just had to be realm first... but I digress.

[Loffter]

Er, after I make sure no one else nearby wants it, of course.

[CrystalKitten]

As for the solix situation.. I PERSONALLY feel that taming a rare that you really just don't want, just because it's got a shiney silver dragon, is no different than killing it cause it has a shiney silver dragon :/ Sure, you asked, and no one that was there RIGHT THEN wanted it... And sure.. someone could come by and kill it before someone had a chance to tame it... But what if they didn't? What if someone who camped there logged in 2 minutes later to check on the spawn... Only to find it had just been tamed? If you actually want the pet, or at least, think it could be something that could grow on you, that's one thing, but "just because"... I don't see it any different than just outright killing it. You're removing it from the game for another ___ hours so other hunters who do want it can't have it... Not to say that I think this is inherently "wrong". It's a game, people can do what they want.. And I'm a VERY strong believer in that, even when what they want to do annoys me, heh.

I do know that I logged in at about 5 after 8pm... thinking "it's almost 12 hours after the server came up! Maybe Solix will have spawned". Run to the spawn point, ask if there's been any sightings so I know whether to waste my time or not... And get told that someone killed it during a failed tame only a couple minutes earlier.. Made me sad. If I found out they didn't really want it, and were only going after it cause it was a shiney rare and no other reason, and that it would have just grown bored and fat in a stable.. that would have made me tripley sad (I personally don't care about rare/common.. but there's no other orangey fire spidey )

The others, I'd say go for it. If you decide you want it, no harm no foul. If it's something like madexx, where there's a reason to reset the spawn (ie.. you're trying to get another colour), I'd say say whatever. But to me.. If you don't want it, and removing it from the market does absolutely nothing for anyone... What's the point other than to be able to say "has shinies!"

[Rhyela]

Another way to look at it, CrystalKitten, is that taming something you don't think you want could lead to an unexpected bond. I am a perfect example of this. I needed green Madexx like I needed air to breathe. I got bronze first and liked it well enough. I tried to be happy that I even got a Madexx, but the pull of the green Madexx brought me back to the desert again. I camped and camped and camped for hours, days even. Then, FINALLY! - NPC Scan went off. It was none other than BLACK Madexx. I looked around for someone to tame it, no one was around. I didn't want it to be killed, nor did I really want it myself, so I just tamed it anyway and immediately threw it in my stables. I was tired and frustrated and still didn't have my green Madexx.

Well, wouldn't you know it, but when a couple of friends had their Madexxes out to take pictures a few days later, I went back to my stable and pulled out my black Madexx. Then, just out of nowhere, this previously un-wanted black Madexx suddenly had this sense or feeling that he was MINE. He appeared for me and me alone, and I fell in love with him. As you can see in my signature, he's one of my favorites now.

So, you see, taming rares you don't actually want, or any beast for that matter, is not always necessarily a bad thing. Even if you don't think you want them to begin with, you may be surprised at how much you end up falling in love with them later.

[Comett]

Honestly I sort of agree with Crystal here in regards to Solix.

I mean, if you liked the skin/wanted it/actively wanted to test drive the pet or whatever - yeah! No problem. But taming purely because it has a "rare" portrait ... eh. Knowing that you specifically really don't want that skin and 99% chance you WON'T keep it sort of gets to me. I mean I wouldn't go off at you for it or anything Don't get me wrong. I've just had so many Molten Front losses... I really didn't want many when MF was released. I wanted Deth'tilac as I liked the skin and he matched my mount (I would have tamed it if it was common). I was vaguely interested in Ban'thalos, I wanted to see it in game (which I did, and tamed it). Skarr is a sort of "I'm not fussed *really* but I'll get him if he's up and yeah I'll probably keep him" (assuming my list of hunter friends already has him lol). Solix was a "I saw a random hunter with it and he was gorgeous and I knew I had to tame that skin" (again, rare or not). Since I decided that, eh, I've lost out on so many Solixes to hunters who tame "just because" - perfectly within their rights to do so, but it really sucks when you see a tame happen AGAIN to ANOTHER trophy collector who will almost certainly ditch the pet within the week for a new shiny... or if they do keep it, it'll sit in the stables and never get used yet alone probably named.

So yes... don't get me wrong, I'd 100% rather a "maybe I'd like it" tame over a kill, but it is disheartening when you're the poor sucker who keeps missing out on a pet that they'd genuinely enjoy... it's not you personally, but it's you coupled with the ten other hunters who did the exact same "eh maybe" type tame beforehand

[Lisaara]

Eh I think you're fine. It's okay to tame it just for the heck of it. Who knows...you might love it!

[Quiv]

thx for the comments. the Solix is the one I was concerned most over. I guess i was a little jaded since I have seen Solix (and Skitter for that matter) up about 19,000 times and Kirix a whopping 1. maybe someone else has seen Kirix 19,000 times and Solix only once.

Well to help undo any bad karma i might have put out, this morning, I gave a hunter bloodlust so he could get skarr without dying (happened to be nearby with a corehound), so hoping I have righted any wrongdoing. xD Be more mindful in the future, there really was no reason to tame him. I should have just enjoyed the blood bath Solix was causing to unwary players >:).

[Lisaara]

thx for the comments. the Solix is the one I was concerned most over. I guess i was a little jaded since I have seen Solix (and Skitter for that matter) up about 19,000 times and Kirix a whopping 1. maybe someone else has seen Kirix 19,000 times and Solix only once.

Well to help undo any bad karma i might have put out, this morning, I gave a hunter bloodlust so he could get skarr without dying (happened to be nearby with a corehound), so hoping I have righted any wrongdoing. xD Be more mindful in the future, there really was no reason to tame him. I should have just enjoyed the blood bath Solix was causing to unwary players >:).

Well you might've bonded with Solix so no, it wasnt 'no reason'. You wanted to see if you wanted him deep down.

Also I see Kirix a TON. I see Solix and Skitter scarcely.

[Worba]

Skarr: I was camping Kirix and Skarr popped up on my tracking (npcscan is useless in molten front, EVERYTHING caches in minutes via pets). Anyway I run to him, get in line, other hunters failed, I tamed. Now I want Skarr, and I waited my turn, but I wasn't out there for him that time.

You wanted him, you tamed him. Doesn't matter if he showed up when you weren't expecting him.

Solix: I want Kirix, not Solix. However Solix popped, he was up for about 30 minutes, a few people tried to kill him, announce in General but no hunters attempted to tame (btw watching these spiders maim people through eagle eye is so much fun.) Finally I announced "if no one wants Solix, i'll tame him." waited another 5, tamed. I have him, don't really want him :\

If this was just a generic "crystalline tear" rare... or if you *already had him*... I'd probably say this was kind of wrong to do - but since A) Solix is a challenging rare, and B) you didn't already have him, and C) you waited a good half hour for the entire server to have their shot at him... then I'd say it could still be justified for the challenge of the tame. So yeah - this is okay too imo.

Red Madexx: I want blue, I like red, but I want blue. I will post a picture of my hunter, and blue would go AMAZING with this toon. But I tamed red. It was... almost knee-jerk reaction. NPC-Scan blares, DISMOUNT, TAME! It's habitual after all the camping I have done, Im just so used to waiting for the alarm and immediately taming.

Personally I think this one was wrong - I could see it if it was a common brown / black model (in which case ... do what you like), but where it was a unique color that you specifically *didn't* want, it would have been nice to at least give others a chance to tame him before you killed him for the reset timer. Not a big deal - as you said, just a kneejerk reaction, and we all have them now and then, but you asked, so...

Am I bad? I kinda feel bad, especially about Solix.

No.

[Quiv]

Just to clarify about Madexx, I didnt kill it for a reset timer, I actually tamed it. I like the color, its great, but of all the colors, it wasnt the one I wanted the most. My biggest hangup was I could have technically lived without red, because blue is the main one i really wanted. Getting a red/green I view as a luxury... nice to get, but not my highest priority.

I got to think about those who really want the red like I really want the blue. how would i feel if i missed a blue because someone tamed a blue like i did a red. made me feel kinda ehhh

and also to clarify, Im not insecure about these tames, I just believe hunter taming etiquette and consideration is important, and like to make sure my behavior in game matches the the things I value.

[SgtSplacker]

I tame stuff I dont really want all the time. I have things in my stable just in case it's removed from the game. Anyways how are you supposed to know if you like something if you dont try it out first? And those challenge tames i'd do them just for the experience. I kept the blue spider but abandoned all the rest. I mean if theres people in line for a tame I wouldnt try unless I wanted to keep it. But just coming up on something? i'd tame for sure.

[Royi]

Another way to look at it, CrystalKitten, is that taming something you don't think you want could lead to an unexpected bond....

So, you see, taming rares you don't actually want, or any beast for that matter, is not always necessarily a bad thing. Even if you don't think you want them to begin with, you may be surprised at how much you end up falling in love with them later.

Agree^^

I never cared for Maddex, but stumbled across a Green one one day randomly, did the OMG-NPCSCAN-DISMOUNT-TAME and afterwards I never thought I would even use him. I tried him out for PVP and he just seemed quite fitting and I actually started to enjoy the model and the scorpion in general. I upgraded him to a Blue version randomly with another pass by while searching for Camel Figurines but still enjoy the scorpion model much more than I thought I would have.

Pets I thought I would want: Karoma ~ never clicked, Sambas ~ Clicked for a bit, but just thought that type of lion model was too cartoony, Ghostcrawler ~ never clicked, Skoll ~ never clicked, Gondria ~ never clicked.... and probably a few others.

If you repeatadly tame a rare pet and let it go then I would suppose that would be as bad as simply killing it. Or if the hunter had absolutely NO desire to keep that pet. But especially with these 10 new rares, they're considered "challenges". I know I want to try a lot of these spiders out simply because of the challenge, and in all honesty I dont think I'll even use the spiders afterwards (perhaps Deth because I like his model, or maybe the green one)

But I'm not going to actively camp for these guys if I'm not 100% set on keeping them, and if i come across one while questing, (esp if its a uncommon skin) I'll definately allow other hunters who want them more to tame them. By giving others a chance and just saying "eff it i'll try myself". Don't feel bad

But every hunter shouldn't feel bad about trying a rare out. Take a test drive ya' know?


*edit Sgtsplacker just posted my thoughts as well

[Worba]

Just to clarify about Madexx, I didnt kill it for a reset timer, I actually tamed it. I like the color, its great, but of all the colors, it wasnt the one I wanted the most. My biggest hangup was I could have technically lived without red, because blue is the main one i really wanted. Getting a red/green I view as a luxury... nice to get, but not my highest priority.

I'd been under the impression you specifically didn't want non-blue madexxes and just tamed the red purely by reflex; if that's not the case then no worries - as everyone else has said, "take it for a test drive!"

[CrystalKitten]

Oh, I totally understand the test drive thing I just mentioned my thoughts on Solix as he said that even after taming him he didn't really want him. Which just reminded me of how I missed out on my first Solix attempt because someone had a failed attempt only 5 minutes before i logged on, heh.

But yeah, if someone's on the fence at ALL then sure, go for it, give it a try, and see if it grows on you. But if it's a "it's rare, no one else is having any success, so whatever, I'll take it" kind of thing, then for me that's getting close, if not tied with same as a kill just for kicks. As I said People can play how they want, I won't judge whether it's right or wrong to kill (not in this topic anyways, heh). I know that would be a very thin line to draw though.. Because MAYBE there was a slim chance it would grow on you... But yeah. The challenge tames do bring that stuff to a unique position on the moral standard. However.. what keeps someone from almost completing the tame, and then feigning death so that it can rest, and someone that wants it can have it? But again, as I said, very very thin lines. heh

[Novikova]

Yeah, I kinda feel it with Skoll. After over a year and a half of waiting, maybe I built up too much expectation. That said, I <3 my skittle spiders and am glad I have tamed them.

[Loffter]

I collect rares. Stable slots are limited so I do have to pick and choose, but if I have an open slot and something unique and rare comes along, I'm not gonna let someone kill it. I'd rather know another hunter got the pet of my dreams than some random dbag horde walked by and killed it.

[Quiv]

I'd been under the impression you specifically didn't want non-blue madexxes and just tamed the red purely by reflex; if that's not the case then no worries - as everyone else has said, "take it for a test drive!"

yeah thats probably my fault, poor at explaining. xD my thing with the blue/red/green madexx is more a priority system instead of "want/dont want"


this thread has a lot of good perspectives in it though, I think i know how im going to handle things in the future. this actually segues into another dilemma i ran into while trying to be more considerate (announcing rares in general) but thats for another thread probably

[Lisaara]

I'd been under the impression you specifically didn't want non-blue madexxes and just tamed the red purely by reflex; if that's not the case then no worries - as everyone else has said, "take it for a test drive!"

yeah thats probably my fault, poor at explaining. xD my thing with the blue/red/green madexx is more a priority system instead of "want/dont want"


this thread has a lot of good perspectives in it though, I think i know how im going to handle things in the future. this actually segues into another dilemma i ran into while trying to be more considerate (announcing rares in general) but thats for another thread probably

Announcing rares in general actually is a very bad idea. That brings griefers more than hunters to tame it. Everytime someone announces a rare, the rare ends up dead, not tamed on my server. :/