What was Blizzard's Biggest Mistake ?

Unread post by **AdamSavage** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:08 am

What do you think Blizzard's biggest mistake was? I'm not really limiting this to anything, so it can be from things they have yet to do but you may think they should have done. It can be even things that have been done which you think shouldn't of done.

I personally think they could of done without Activision.

Edit: Title was misleading, changed to better reflect the topic.

Unread post by **Katlyne** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:13 am

With my bad luck... Right now Id say making the hunter only rares killable

(i have alot of aggression right now)

**My Characters** · Unread post by **Kurenio** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:15 am

Activision for sure

Unread post by **Aeladrine** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:16 am

Telling hunters that they would be able to continue to tame a certain wolf and then taking it away.(; But seriously, that wasn't a very good idea. It's been a very long time since then, but there are still a lot of hurt feelings. And now, every time Blizzard promises us something will or won't happen, a lot of us can't help but hear that voice in the back of our minds, that little person saying, "How can you trust what they say? They've lied to you once already, who's to say they won't lie again?"

So yeah. I think that was one of their biggest mistakes.

Unread post by **AdamSavage** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:20 am

They are really bad at "changing there minds" They used to swear up and down they would never allow real money to be used to buy gear. Sure it's not in wow, but Diablo III is still a blizzard game, therefore it still counts. I'm just waiting to see how long it takes before it makes it way to wow. Saturo predicted it would happen, so far she has been right.

Unread post by **Monica Gems** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:43 am

Achievements. Sweet Jesus, I hate them. People are so frantic to get them, to get their rewards. I'm sick of it.

Unread post by **Litlemouse** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:27 am

To me personally, it was removing Eyes of the Beast. I still miss it D:

Unread post by **Rikaku** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:29 am

Changing Worgen female from the original WIP styled models to what we have now.

Unread post by **Katlyne** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:20 am

The worgen dances were a pretty bad mistake

Unread post by **Cerele** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:51 am

Inventing the Rogue Class.
A class thats suposed to be cheap.... really??? REALLY???

Unread post by **Gimlion** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:05 am

AdamSavage wrote:They are really bad at "changing there minds" They used to swear up and down they would never allow real money to be used to buy gear. Sure it's not in wow, but Diablo III is still a blizzard game, therefore it still counts. I'm just waiting to see how long it takes before it makes it way to wow. Saturo predicted it would happen, so far she has been right.

I highly doubt they'll put it into WoW's AH, and my reasoning is in the thread about the D3 thread if you would like to read it in full, but the TL;DR is that the WoW AH is full of junk, and unless Tier/Season gear was able to be auctioned, or Crafting Gear became significantly better, no one would make any money off anything except pets and mounts.

Edit: As for the biggest mistake

WoW: Making DK's only able to tank in one spec, I liked the fact that one person could literally choose any of 6 roles (Frost, Blood, and Unholy in both DPS and Tanking), and they wouldn't be ganked for not choosing one of the others. I personally loved being Dual Specced into Dual Wield Frost tanking, and Unholy Tanking. Much more fun than now, where I'm forced into blood.

Overall: Activision by far. They are game-mongering control freaks that severely lust after cash, and IMHO, throw away game quality for such. I guarantee that the D3 AH thing was Activision's idea, and that they bullied Blizz into it.

Unread post by **AdamSavage** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:03 pm

Gimlion wrote:Overall: Activision by far. They are game-mongering control freaks that severely lust after cash, and IMHO, throw away game quality for such. I guarantee that the D3 AH thing was Activision's idea, and that they bullied Blizz into it.

I agree, I bet there where behind the Real ID being needed on the forums suggestion as well. Shame they cant just remove themselves from Activision.

Unread post by **Kayb** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:38 pm

Activision is a big one

Wrath of the Lich King is another

The general dumbing down of the game has a whole

Retconning the Worgen story line

Being able to see other people's achievements and reinforcing the whole gearscore/item level bullshit

Unread post by **Wassa** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:25 pm

The loss of community in whole.

In vanilla WoW, everything was server only. In battlegrounds you gained rivals from the opposite faction. For dungeons you had to have friends to get a group together. You couldn't just hop servers, change names, races, faction, etc. Everyone knew everyone back then.

Now, I can get an alt to max level and get decent gear with random dungeon finder without saying a word or knowing anyone on my server. Why should I when a group of random people is just a click away? For a shy person like me, I have a hard time making friends now than I did six years ago where I was "forced" to group up with people on my server. I STILL play with friends I made back then. If I didn't have them I wouldn't be playing this game anymore.

Role-play servers have a bit more community than normal PvE/PvP servers, which is why I rather play on one even if I rarely role-play anymore.

Unread post by **GormanGhaste** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:38 pm

Wassa wrote:The loss of community in whole.

Now, I can get an alt to max level and get decent gear with random dungeon finder without saying a word or knowing anyone on my server. Why should I when a group of random people is just a click away? For a shy person like me, I have a hard time making friends now than I did six years ago where I was "forced" to group up with people on my server.

I agree. And the current guild system discourages me from trying out new guilds, so I've become pretty isolated.

Unread post by **Corpsebryde** » Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:29 am

The introduction of the LFG tool was the biggest mistake. It took away any accountability for a person's actions. In vanilla and BC, your reputation, or lack thereof, on your server was everything. Now no one has to act like a human because, well, who cares?

The 2nd in my opinion was mass marketing the game (looking at you Mr. T and Ozzy commercials). Sure, it brought in a lot of money to the company, but it also brought people who aren't normally gamers and now you have the problems you have at present; a shallow game that can be "finished" in a couple months. I remember back in BC when I finally hit 70 and thinking "man, there's no way I could ever see every aspect of this world"...and I absolutely LOVED it. That feeling started to disappear at the end of BC when they did their first set of dungeon/raid nerfs.

Unread post by **Aleu** » Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:47 am

LFG tool. Sure, it can get you a group faster (Ha ha) then it could back in the day. However, pugging for heroics and stuff actually got me into my old raiding guild back in BC. Pugged into a heroic Ramparts and found some good people. You didn't act out since the people you were running with were all from your realm. I remember getting two little twerps blacklisted on my old PvE server.

I'll admit, I'm still bleh about the Ghost Wolf thing. It was my lesson never to take their word for anything. I was one of those people who spent days getting mats and haste to tame one only to log on the day I was going to and find their took it away. XP Slap in the face right there and a bunch of wasted gold.

Activision... is another. I won't get into my opinion on that now.

Edit: Oh yeah. Arenas. I hate arenas. I don't like what they've done with their PvP system. They made it pretty much based on gear instead of skill. ><;

Unread post by **Worba** » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:02 pm

Ask 10 different people get 8-10 different responses. E.g. often what totally saves the game for one person totally ruins it for the next.

The LFG tool is a perfect example: for some this has made things less intimate, but for me it's night and day better. I tried to group back in vanilla but typically (not being a tank or healer) it took a good 2-3 hours of spamming /general (back then that channel was still global), during which time some or all of the original recruitees would have gotten bored and left... and even then the healer was often doing it offspec, the tank was a DPS and after several wipes one of them would switch to his max level main and just run everyone through on EZ mode to prevent further armor repairs.

Meanwhile the next person has fond memories of all the friends they made doing it "the long way", and finds it depressing to have to group with random strangers (now that most people are no longer available for ad hoc groups due to using the LFG tool, presumably).

Who's right? Everyone. Who's wrong? Blizzard.

Unread post by **Durokh** » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:50 pm

Worba wrote:Who's right? Everyone. Who's wrong? Blizzard.

Best comment ever. Nothing else can be added.

Unread post by **Sam** » Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:04 pm

Worba wrote: The LFG tool is a perfect example: for some this has made things less intimate, but for me it's night and day better.

Same here... it's SO much better. Yeah, it has its problems but overall? I'm much happier with it than without. And bad PuG stories can be so entertaining. The warrior tank using an int staff... the priest healer who kept asking my warlock to spot heal for her while she was on the phone... first I just laughed, but after 2-3 times I said "You know I'm a warlock, right?" It turned out she thought I was a shadow priest. I said, "Yeah, imp spec..."

And the LFG tool made that possible

Biggest mistake? Not letting me tame the fen striders in Zangermarsh. I want one so bad!

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