The Undead being renamed ?

[AdamSavage]

I noticed this on the Mist of Pandaria site.

[Vephriel]

Undead and Forsaken have always been interchangeable. They're referred to as both quite often.

[AdamSavage]

Hmm. That I didn't know..

[Lisaara]

Yeah, what Veph said. It's not a rename.

[AdamSavage]

Yeah, what Veph said. It's not a rename.

Well they say you learn something new everyday.

[Lisaara]

Yeah, what Veph said. It's not a rename.

Well they say you learn something new everyday.

Of course! :3

[Azunara]

Is there any reason why worgen/goblins aren't on that list, though?

[Shade]

Is there any reason why worgen/goblins aren't on that list, though?

Apparently we worgens and goblins are not cool enough to be monks

[Sesamee]

Is there any reason why worgen/goblins aren't on that list, though?

Apparently we worgens and goblins are not cool enough to be monks

Probably just doesn't fit with the lore of the races. Goblins being greedy immoral little things and warewolves being evil shapshifting monsters? It's hard to reconcile those races with a monk who's learned her skills from the peaceful teddy bears...I mean Pandaren. I'll take Goblins and Worgens over teddy bears anyday though!

[Azunara]

Is there any reason why worgen/goblins aren't on that list, though?

Apparently we worgens and goblins are not cool enough to be monks

Probably just doesn't fit with the lore of the races. Goblins being greedy immoral little things and warewolves being evil shapshifting monsters? It's hard to reconcile those races with a monk who's learned her skills from the peaceful teddy bears...I mean Pandaren. I'll take Goblins and Worgens over teddy bears anyday though!

I can't see trolls or forsaken monks either, though. I can see pandaren, humans, draenei, night elves, orcs, tauren, and blood elves as monks, but none of the other races.

[Rikaku]

I can see Worgen being monks quite honestly, but Gnomes, Blood Elves, and Trolls? No I can't see those being Monks at all.

[Holgarr]

Worgen and Goblins have wholly separate startzones from other races whose events all took place long before the Pandaren were revealed. Who would train them? This also explains why there are no Pandaren DKs.

[Sesamee]

I can't see trolls or forsaken monks either, though. I can see pandaren, humans, draenei, night elves, orcs, tauren, and blood elves as monks, but none of the other races.

They are probably going to use the same reasoning that allows the undead and trolls to be priests.

[Drayk]

I can't see trolls or forsaken monks either, though. I can see pandaren, humans, draenei, night elves, orcs, tauren, and blood elves as monks, but none of the other races.

They are probably going to use the same reasoning that allows the undead and trolls to be priests.

Undead use the Shadow faith to heal and Trolls gain their ability from their Loas. I'm not sure how that lends itself to Monks...it seems like Monks do use "dark chi" to some extent but I'm not sure how Loas work with Chi.

[Sesamee]

Undead monks will probably use their dark chi to tap into the shadow power they use to heal or fight or whatever. IDK, it doesnt seem that much of a stretch to me.

[Sigrah]

I can easily see most of the races currently listed as being able to be monks. The only one that raises my eyebrow would be Gnomes. I just have a hard time seeing a race of tiny obsessed technophiles having the desire to take up that kind of discipline, but honestly, I don't care all that much.

By the way, did anyone notice that "Death Knight" was absent as a choice for Pandarens? I thought that was interesting in and of itself. I guess we won't have to worry about a Panda with glowing blue eyes staring darkly at everyone.

[Lisaara]

I can easily see most of the races currently listed as being able to be monks. The only one that raises my eyebrow would be Gnomes. I just have a hard time seeing a race of tiny obsessed technophiles having the desire to take up that kind of discipline, but honestly, I don't care all that much.

By the way, did anyone notice that "Death Knight" was absent as a choice for Pandarens? I thought that was interesting in and of itself. I guess we won't have to worry about a Panda with glowing blue eyes staring darkly at everyone.

Arthas never knew of the Pandarens so there would be know way for him to raise a Pandaren DK. Just a little quick lore lesson. X3

[Cryptography]

Worgen and Goblins have wholly separate startzones from other races whose events all took place long before the Pandaren were revealed. Who would train them? This also explains why there are no Pandaren DKs.

This.

Not so much for lore reasons, but for the ammount of extra work it would require to add in monk-specific stuff in the starter zones.

[Zuilu]

Forsaken refers to the faction of undead that Sylvanas rules over, Undead would just refer to anything like..banshee, ghoul, zombie, death knight, abomination, wraith, etc. Any reanimated corpse/spirit. So Forsaken has always been a legitimate term ^^

[Tsuki]

Forsaken monk = human monk who died.
y/n?