Ninja-ing tames

[Mychelle]

And this is why I have 0 respect for people on PvP realms.

Please do not take this guy, or even others like him, to mean that everyone on a PVP server is a douche.

I, clearly I hope, am not a douche because I am on a PVP server.

Naw. You're awesome. :3

Yay, thank you. <3 I suddenly felt *really* bad about being on a PVP server when I saw that originally. >.< heh.

[Lisaara]

Well not everyone on a pvp server has the 'quiet hunter code' like you do.....which was made apparent.

[Saphera]

I'd have to vote a definite "No" on this one. I try my best to be courteous of other hunters. If I get to a spawn point and find someone already camping, I'll just try again later (they were there first).

[AzureWolf]

I'd have to vote a definite "No" on this one. I try my best to be courteous of other hunters. If I get to a spawn point and find someone already camping, I'll just try again later (they were there first).

same... and if the rare is there, i sometimes help where i can. i lost the green spirit owl 9 times to people who can get on the tree. i got a mage to help get it down and lost it that way too...

[RayginX]

When it comes to Ninja-ing I won't "steal" someones tame while they are attempting to tame it. But if the person taming is a know griefer I'm gonna take them out and take it for myself. Buuuuuut that's only if the persons a griefer. Now earlier today my friend and I were trying to get me Deth'tilac we got him down to below half hp when this Ally hunter showed up. Now normally I have no issues with Ally hunters, we even help each other sometimes, but this was different. He managed to kill my friend (was his turn to kite the spider. We did the two hunters take turns kiting strategy) and he was going to attack me when I Feigned Death so Deth'tilac would attacked the Ally Hunter. He got killed by Deth Strike and my friend rez'd. I got the spider and the Ally came back and obviously went out a jealous rage and started trying to kill us (I even noticed he had tamed Karkin) and we killed him. We took our sweet time getting revenge by killing him every time he rez'd.

It was a good night. I am thankful I got my spider ^_^.

But yeah I can't stand it when people kill you or the creature your trying to tame just so they can try to get it or they CANT get it.

[RHMakonea]

I don't believe in ninja taming I don't think it's right to steal. If they're being jerks about you hunting something too then sure they deserve to get ninja'd doesn't mean I'll do it personally. I like to give all hunters a chance at something, I have a "treat others how you'd want to be treated" mentality so griefer or not I'm not going to take from them unless they're out there killing whatever I'm hunting on purpose or something. I'm against it 100% I also hate people who go and kill rares just out of boredom (almost lost some pets to random people who land in middle of tame and start killing the mob). Respect your fellow hunters and don't be huge jerks!

[Worba]

I'm new to these forums so I have no idea if there will be some huge positive/negative reaction towards this, but here goes nothing. What is everybody's opinions on ninja taming? I'm not referring to killing a pet as an Alliance player is trying to tame, I am talking about taming the pet before the Alliance player can. This is how I got Ban'thalos who is now my favorite pet and the only pet i take on my expeditions for other pets. A night elf who was there first kept falling off of the tree and dying, as did I, but I got on top before him and I tamed Ban'thalos as he looked on (probably quite sadly). I do not see anything wrong with this, especially in this case because he is in a place this person will be every day. If two people are going for a tame, the best person should win and the other person should be forced to wait for the pet to respawn. I did help the hunter tame deth'tilac later when i ran into him in MF, but right after the successful tame, the dozens of Alliance players watching our battle were /spitting and /pitying and /laughing at me. I didn't care, but I would like to know everybody's opinions on this issue.

The title doesn't fit the description.

He who gets there first gets first try - provided he tries right away and doesn't sit there picking his nose.

If he fails, it's the next person's turn.

The only time "ninja-tame" would apply is if you actually disrupted his tame, and then tamed it yourself.

EDIT: Okay, stacking would be one other case where the title would apply - if the mob hasn't spawned yet, the first person can't exactly be faulted for waiting, and others should steer clear as long as the first person isn't going out of their way to be an ass about it.

[Xcreeping]

I picked In certain situations and today is the best example why.

I went to molten front to check on the purple spider and it was up but two horde where going for it ( pvp server im alliance )

I move up and sat there without my pet out just watching them and they decided it would be a good idea to attack me and kill me so in return i ran back and killed them, this repeated about three times so i decided to go to stormwind and tell everyone it was up and the horde where attacking. Two alliance hunters show up and explode them and told me to tame it and long story short they spawn camped the horde while i tamed it.

[Talaridan]

I'd have to vote a definite "No" on this one. I try my best to be courteous of other hunters. If I get to a spawn point and find someone already camping, I'll just try again later (they were there first).

This is my outlook as well.

If I'm looking for a rare and see someone camping the spot, I politely move on, regardless of what race or side they are. They were there first and they're putting in the time. They have right of way, in my book.

I would never kill someone's potential pet in mid-tame. I've had it happen to me and it's an awful feeling to know all your time, effort, and camping were ruined by some piece of dung that randomly flew by and decided to act like a jerk.

And the excuse of "It's PvP" is a load of hooey. I started on Emerald Dream, an RP-PvP server way back in the day. We had manners, politeness, and we treated each other decently. Not every person did, but it was a small community. I had people on the other side I knew and recognized and they knew me. We could smile and wave, help each other with quests, and treat each other with respect...And we'd still PvP when we wanted with no hard feelings. And this was well before RealID.

[pengupuff]

I never try to screw anyone over mid-tame, but the SECOND they die I jump in and give it a shot. They had their chance, so I'm taking mine.

At the end of the day it's a competitive MMO, so I don't feel guilty about taking advantage of a window of opportunity, and by default I expect the same from anyone else on my server.
And while debating the moral obligation of players in a video game can be fun, whenever I get worked up I remember that these rares are just polygons and get on with my life.

[Lazurianis]

Ninja-Ing Tames:

Those who support it, I do not know why but it is against the Terms of Use to "Grief" another player's catch or gain. Including Hunter Pets. So in this case, Griefeing falls under the catogory of Hunters too. Stated on line 4.

[Line1]All these actions are against the ToU/ToS ("Terms of Use"/"Terms of Service", as in ToUA) and if reported action may be taken against the player [Line2]or players involved.
[Line3]
[Line4]Griefing refers to the act of a player ruining the gaming experience of another player on purpose (though this is debatable from one server to another - [Line5]see below). The most obvious form of griefing is constant stalking of a player, by either following him or her for no reason, whispering useless messages, [Line6]repeatedly sending them invitations after they decline, etc.
[Line7]
[Line8] Ninja looting (Though in groups or parties, it is a violation of ToS only if the raid leader explains the loot rules before the raid starts then goes against [Line9]them.)
[Line10] Harassing, mocking, insulting players or gamemasters. (This includes creating pointless GM tickets such as asking for game tips or gold.)
[Line11] Scamming, i.e. fooling others by pretending something that is actually not happening.
[Line12]
[Line13]A griefer in World of Warcraft is almost always one who PKs or trains mobs to other characters, but the term includes any activity specifically designed [Line14]to hamper another player's gameplay, progress, or fun.
[Line15]
[Line16]Griefing can also be harassment as it is defined in the Blizzard's Harassment Policy,[1] which can result in disciplinary action for a player.

~All rights go to the original owner.

[mirandarose]

Does it count as Ninja-taming if you stop a Horde (non-hunter) from killing the pet by taming? If so then yes I do do that, that's how I tamed Ban'thalos, a Horde Priest was trying to kill him. If by ninja-taming you only mean steal from another hunter, then no I don't approve of that.

[Lupis]

Does it count as Ninja-taming if you stop a Horde (non-hunter) from killing the pet by taming? If so then yes I do do that, that's how I tamed Ban'thalos, a Horde Priest was trying to kill him. If by ninja-taming you only mean steal from another hunter, then no I don't approve of that.

It doesn't count if you're stopping them from killing it. Just if you stop another hunter from taming it by stealing it for yourself.

[Martog]

Nah I won't ninja tame. Was watching a fellow horde hunter play with Ban'thalos so I stood up in the tree next to her and had the strategy loaded on my other monitor. She finally got it and we talked for a few minutes. Was just doing dailies. Guess I got rewarded as I went back up there for the elders a few days later on my pally and there was Ban, quickly flipped over and tamed.

[Mindsprocket]

Does it count as Ninja-taming if you stop a Horde (non-hunter) from killing the pet by taming? If so then yes I do do that, that's how I tamed Ban'thalos, a Horde Priest was trying to kill him. If by ninja-taming you only mean steal from another hunter, then no I don't approve of that.

In case of Ban'thalos it's certainly not ninja-taming. I would only see it as ninjaing in the case of tamable rares that have something special to offer for non-hunters, e.g. those that are part of achievements (like Krush and Nuramog) or that drop mini pets (like Jadefang). Afterall, all players have the right to collect those things and they spend just as much time and effort looking for them as the people who want to tame them.