Final Boss of Expansion....

[Lisaara]

For a second I was like "...who's this Darth Proudmoore you speak of?" I think loads of people would happily kill her.

Ahh so he is. Wowpedia cleared that up ^_^ silly Broll. It's probably the gnomes. They're terrifying, which is why he's in hiding honestly, Tyrande on her own would be fine as a leader. Broll, now I think on it, not so much of a good leader. Yes, he's a good druid and all, but I see where you're coming from. He's good, but not that good :/

Admit it. Watch her talk to Varian in the cinematic. XD You'll see where it came from! Haha!

Pretty much. Maybe a Cenarion Circle leader at best?

[Krysteena]

Yes. Broll suits one of the lesser factions more than an entire one. Cenarion Expedition, for example. Or the Cenarion Circle.

Ugh watching the cinematic again makes me realise why I hate Jaina so much. Yes. Out of all the alliance leaders/semi leaders that could be killed and still make some sense as to why, it would be her. She's been driven mad and is a downright...umm...birdbrain. Yeah. A birdbrain

[cowmuflage]

It just made me sad more then angry. Jaina was tied with Slyvanas as my all time fave lore leader. Them Mop happened and now I can't stand her >.>

[Lisaara]

Yes. Broll suits one of the lesser factions more than an entire one. Cenarion Expedition, for example. Or the Cenarion Circle.

Ugh watching the cinematic again makes me realise why I hate Jaina so much. Yes. Out of all the alliance leaders/semi leaders that could be killed and still make some sense as to why, it would be her. She's been driven mad and is a downright...umm...birdbrain. Yeah. A birdbrain

And now you'll never unsee Darth Proudmoore *giggles*

[Slickrock]

I'll let the horde kill off Jaina if Alliance gets to off Sylvanis.

[Krysteena]

I'll let the horde kill off Jaina if Alliance gets to off Sylvanis.

If you think on it, they can't kill off Sylvanas. If I'm correct, there's no one to take up the mantle of leadership if she goes. Thrall had Garrosh. Garrosh had Vol'Jin. Jaina...I'd say Rhonin but no. Khadgar? He's the dude in Draenor, at the start, and is a good Mage.

As a horde player, I'd say kill off Gallywix, but he's got no leaders after him. Then again, no one knows his whereabouts Sylvanas, if I'm colorectal, does have some back story in that new novel. I won't give too much away, but basically she's not as cruel as they made out. She meets her sister and the two mingle. Her heart softens slightly and only due to her sister betraying her, in a way, makes her heart harden again. She's got a role to play I reckon and hasn't had much limelight. Jaina? Get rid of her already :/ she's doing my head in...miss Vader Proudmoore, you're as sour as gone-off milk *crosses arms*

[SylviaDragon]

They will hand wave that with "Jaina was a bit nuts then but she's better now" or something >.>

Honestly, I'd like us to end Jaina. She's looney now, and from the events in Dalaran, I don't think she'll ever be completely better. She went so crazy that her hair changed colour! That's just...odd. Plus, she kicked the Sunreavers from the Kirin Tor. They had no reason to be kicked out aside from her believing all the horde is bad, or whatever went through her mind when we took the divine bell back. Even when the threat of the horde was neutralised somewhat, as Vol'Jin took the lead (to which I majorly fangirled so much it wasn't healthy) she tried to convince Varian to 'end the horde'. He was so close, and you could tell she wasn't impressed when Vol'Jin got off with a warning. Then again, a troll that's slouched lower than you is easy to talk to. When he decided to stand up and tower over you without completely showing his fill height, you wouldn't try to kill him.

Between Varian and Jaina, I'd like both to let go of their rule. The Horde has had loads of movement in its leadership. The Allaince hasn't. Why can't, in this expansion perhaps, Varian or Jaina be tempted by demon blood and go all lonely or something? Or Malfurion! Gosh I hate his character. Broll Bearmantle (if anyone knows who I'm talking about/if he's still alive) would've made a better leader than him, imo.

this is more or less a sum of my own feelings. I quite liked jaina before. I was always fairly fond of her and even kind of excited to find out that she was going to toughen up a bit for the war. I didn't expect her to go all crazy-vengeance on everyone. I felt bad being on her side when she kicked the elves out of dal and did not approve of how fast she tried to turn on the horde allies who had helped them storm org. I am surprised the sha did not latch on to her as well considering how bitter she is. I wont be surprised if we have to put her down soon. i would be sad to see her character go but she seems pretty messed up now and i must admit horde have taken a pounding and ally shouldn't always be the good guys.

I'm glad our king has gone through some development and softened up a bit. I have spent most of my wow time disliking him but i can tolerate him now. i do wonder how long he has left though now that his kid is growing up and can make a viable replacement soon. I wouldn't exactly be sad to see him go but hes been changing for the better so if he did die he would probably end up a martyr.

never liked Malfurion. not even in the books. I have always felt that everyone around him has tried to paint him as being a better person than he really is. I think for all his faults I liked Illidan better.

as far as horde goes I am very much burnt out on orcs. what I want to see is vol'jin cement his spot as warchief. If i see thrall lurking about as a nursemaid I will scream. I want to see the new warchief calling some shots and getting the spotlight.
I also want to see the blood elves get a part of the action. which shouldn't be too high a demand since they had close ties to outlands. aside from the end of mop they have pretty much been sitting in silvermoon forgotten.
I would also like to see some development in sylvanas for better or worse. I dont think they would kill her off since there is no one to take her place and since she wont be going anywhere they may as well use her. I actually like her and would love to see her character develop. we have all these assumptions about her character and indeed she is far from being a good guy but i want to see what makes her tick. show me her hopes and demons. aside from getting some lore through the new undead starting zone quests in cata she has never really had much of an important roll. she has just been this dark brooding figure hidden away underground.

[Nachtwulf]

The Forsaken do have Lilian Voss. Who really only has any story if you do the Forsaken/WPL zones, but she's there. And while she tells you to 'leave her to die' in Scholo there's no proof she actually does. In fact, the remains of the spell Gandling cast may even make her more powerful, since, you know, that's what it was really meant to do.

And unlike Sylvanas, Lilian is actually, you know, a Forsaken. Not some mutant banshee not a banshee dead elf thing.

[Thwip]

The Forsaken do have Lilian Voss. Who really only has any story if you do the Forsaken/WPL zones, but she's there. And while she tells you to 'leave her to die' in Scholo there's no proof she actually does. In fact, the remains of the spell Gandling cast may even make her more powerful, since, you know, that's what it was really meant to do.

And unlike Sylvanas, Lilian is actually, you know, a Forsaken. Not some mutant banshee not a banshee dead elf thing.

But there is also no proof that she did survive. Even then, Lillian has no real personality aside from 'Vengence be mine' and that's it. She's no different from Sylvanas in that aspect and for the most part Lillian doesn't even like the Forsaken. She's more of a Neutral, she refused them as a sanctuary because she was taught to hate them. Her lore is very short and I would say isn't substantial enough to be head of the Forsaken.

As well, I would argue the point of Sylvanas 'not being a Forsaken', with the point that they are all Scourge. There is nothing different physically between Forsaken and Scourge. Forsaken is the title they took upon themselves when they freed their minds from the Lich King. There is a vast array of Scourge types that were in the Lich Kings army and we actually see many of them -in- Undercity, but we're limited to playing the human scourge variety. Forsaken use it as a means to differentiate themselves from those Scourge who were not strong enough to earn their free will back.

[SylviaDragon]

I quite like Lilian. her story really grabbed my interest right off the bat and i am curious to see if she will show up again in the future. I don't think she would make a good leader though. she has shown no care nor liking for the horde whatsoever, has made it quite clear she wishes to be alone and dose not want any sort of company. She is wrapped up in her own personal war and flat out runs from you and refuses the help of the Forsaken on more than one occasion in the starting zone. not to mention she hates undead and would not approve of how the Forsaken broaden their numbers. although some parallel could be drawn between her and the Banshee Queen i would say that she dose not have the desire nor the support that would be needed to assume control.
shes a great character but nothing about her really screams "leader" to me.

[Xota]

Lilian might not be a gung-ho leader of the Forsaken (especially the broadening their numbers part), but there's room for her character to develop. I could see her accepting her undeath, and having sympathy for others in the same situation. (Like looking after Gory in WPL).

[cowmuflage]

That cockroach sellsman should be leader of the horde. He'd be the best.