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Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:41 am
by BorntoRide
Herbing does indeed level a pet. I was able to level Chromaggus from 77 1/2 to 80 in about 45 minutes to an hour , picking herbs in Scholar Basin.
I was getting about 2500 pet xp per pick. Very Efficient
My Hunter is a Herbalist/alchemist.
Whew!
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:32 pm
by Bubu
Rawr wrote:..... while also taming low lvl beasts with the Rank of Claw that I needed because I already had max Rank Bite and wanted my kitty to have both Claw and Bite even tho I knew I would have to drop Sprint (or was it Prowl...) because the only skills ur pet could use at the time were the ones on its bar and Rake was a must and.............................. I'm ok with the instance pet EXP nerf.

Old school, huh?:O)))
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:48 pm
by Slickrock
Saturo wrote:Rawr wrote:Phoronid wrote:Is this where I put on my old man pants and talk about levelling a pet from lvl 9 to 60 in the old classic days, without the new fangled random dungeon system and needing to farm non-grey mobs until my bags were full of runecloth?
But I liked soloing 100+ mobs with my pet on Passive in Winterspring at lvl 60 to get my brand new ghost kitty to the same lvl as me, while also taming low lvl beasts with the Rank of Claw that I needed because I already had max Rank Bite and wanted my kitty to have both Claw and Bite even tho I knew I would have to drop Sprint (or was it Prowl...) because the only skills ur pet could use at the time were the ones on its bar and Rake was a must and.............................. I'm ok with the instance pet EXP nerf.

I miss those days.

Yeah, and I miss AOE farming for purplez on Black Temple with my pally... those were good days too.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:51 pm
by Slickrock
No, it's not a bug. (Well, the bug is the sloppy way they applied this change).
Pet XP has always been based as a percentage of hunter XP. So when they nerfed player XP in Northrend content, pet XP got nerfed as well, since it's a percentage of player XP.
And I doubt they'll fix it, because the goal was they don't want people leveling 80-85 in Northrend. There were far too many leveling guides telling people to level 80-85 in Wrath dungeons or ICC.
If they fix just the pets, they'll likely screw it up even more for Cata, since pets won't be based on hunter XP anymore, or they'll mess with the formula.
But like Saturo said, it won't matter in two days. But it is annoying if you wanted to level your tanking pet to 80 before Cata.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:07 pm
by Lahni
Slickrock wrote:But like Saturo said, it won't matter in two days. But it is annoying if you wanted to level your tanking pet to 80 before Cata.
And it's especially annoying for those of us who won't be receiving Cata until January :/
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:41 pm
by Bubu
BorntoRide wrote:Herbing does indeed level a pet. I was able to level Chromaggus from 77 1/2 to 80 in about 45 minutes to an hour , picking herbs in Scholar Basin.
I was getting about 2500 pet xp per pick. Very Efficient
My Hunter is a Herbalist/alchemist.
Whew!
Have no idea how you did it...
almost hour and half blood rampage in IC gave me 1 bubble.
Not even talking 'bout lvl.
So yes indeed only herbalist can lvl-up pets fast now...
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:43 pm
by Rawr
Bubu wrote:Rawr wrote:..... while also taming low lvl beasts with the Rank of Claw that I needed because I already had max Rank Bite and wanted my kitty to have both Claw and Bite even tho I knew I would have to drop Sprint (or was it Prowl...) because the only skills ur pet could use at the time were the ones on its bar and Rake was a must and.............................. I'm ok with the instance pet EXP nerf.

Old school, huh?:O)))

Very

Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:52 pm
by Pent
I don't know about you all, but I am thinking about going out and getting Herbalism... I wonder how much XP my L.77 pet would get from Peacebloom.
No, I am not really going to do that.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:16 pm
by Worba
Bubu wrote:Tournament dailies, as same as ANY Northrend dailies or just plain run'n'kill lvl 79-80 mobs with your lvl77 pet not working anymore.
Full clean of:
Deathspeaker's Watch x3
The Valley of Fallen Heroes x2
Savage Ledge x3
Plus 3 quests from Shadow Vault, 8 from Tournament and some (20 min long) aside killings.
That's what my boar got at the ens of it...
Yep, just one bubble :O(
So can anyone confirm pet lvl-up from NON-heroic runs?
Otherwise it will be hours and hours of killing. Like back in old good vanilla :O)))
Only numbers r different...
pet xp from regulars is same as for heroics, e.g. they were both nerfed.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:52 pm
by Arisia
Setanta wrote:Arisia wrote:Adding in, running Tournament dailies to quickly level your pet isn't happening either. I tamed one of the blue Coldarra mage hunters that I'd always wanted and have run three days of Dailies with him... he is at this moment in time, two and a half bubbles of XP into 77.
And I do all the dailies, Vanyel at my side killing things-- except for my daily Chillmaw killing. I use a spirit beast for that one. Add in, when I am doing things where I can kill extra for the heck of it, I do it for an hour or so... and yeah, still just those two and a half bubbles...
I don't like doing instances, sorry, and I do not raid, and this *is* annoying; I'd wanted to level most of my mass taming at level 80 by Tuesday, and Vanyel was the last to go.

That was my thought with a blue mage hunter, I ended up rethinking it, and ditched the 77 and walked into heroic violet hold, went off to the left a little bit and trap tamed a lvl 80 blue mage hunter in there.
Thanks so much for this-- I hadn't bonded, as it were, with Vanyel yet-- we'd just started "working" together, so doing what you posted netted me the level 80 Van waiting for Wednesday (I won't be online Tuesday, sadly) to see what Cat will be all about.

Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:27 pm
by Worba
Setanta wrote:Arisia wrote:Adding in, running Tournament dailies to quickly level your pet isn't happening either. I tamed one of the blue Coldarra mage hunters that I'd always wanted and have run three days of Dailies with him... he is at this moment in time, two and a half bubbles of XP into 77.
And I do all the dailies, Vanyel at my side killing things-- except for my daily Chillmaw killing. I use a spirit beast for that one. Add in, when I am doing things where I can kill extra for the heck of it, I do it for an hour or so... and yeah, still just those two and a half bubbles...
I don't like doing instances, sorry, and I do not raid, and this *is* annoying; I'd wanted to level most of my mass taming at level 80 by Tuesday, and Vanyel was the last to go.

That was my thought with a blue mage hunter, I ended up rethinking it, and ditched the 77 and walked into heroic violet hold, went off to the left a little bit and trap tamed a lvl 80 blue mage hunter in there.
That's a great idea - I ended up doing the same just now.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:33 pm
by Ryai
BorntoRide wrote:Herbing does indeed level a pet. I was able to level Chromaggus from 77 1/2 to 80 in about 45 minutes to an hour , picking herbs in Scholar Basin.
I was getting about 2500 pet xp per pick. Very Efficient
My Hunter is a Herbalist/alchemist.
Whew!
I am starting to think this is either A: a glitch or B: not intended, because why would only NORTHREND nodes work? And why only at lv 80? Yeah I've forgotten to test it but I've kept an eye on my pets while spamming mining on my dwarf Harp and none of her pets benefited from her mining.
Edit: I can confirm this is most likely a glitch- any EXP gained is only from herbalising. If it was intended it'd probably be working for both professions and would have been in official notes...
:/ sadly this is giving my pets on Ryai more exp than grinding would.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:13 pm
by Phoronid
I hear AOE farming scourgelings in Icecrown is still great for pet leveling.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:08 pm
by Nightsights
Slickrock wrote:
No, it's not a bug. (Well, the bug is the sloppy way they applied this change).
Pet XP has always been based as a percentage of hunter XP. So when they nerfed player XP in Northrend content, pet XP got nerfed as well, since it's a percentage of player XP.
And I doubt they'll fix it, because the goal was they don't want people leveling 80-85 in Northrend. There were far too many leveling guides telling people to level 80-85 in Wrath dungeons or ICC.
If they fix just the pets, they'll likely screw it up even more for Cata, since pets won't be based on hunter XP anymore, or they'll mess with the formula.
But like Saturo said, it won't matter in two days. But it is annoying if you wanted to level your tanking pet to 80 before Cata.
hmm, makes sense, so would this affect the xp we get from dailys. plan on doing some dailys monday night. then on tues turn them in for some quick xp. then heading over to mt hyjal.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:22 am
by Rhyela
I didn't die back in the day when my pet was 10+ levels below me (ah, the good ol' days), and I won't die in Cataclysm with my pet only 3 levels below me. But, if it is weird bug or something, then it should be fixed. But I'm willing to bet everything will be okay in Cataclysm.

Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:10 am
by Ellaran
I went and ground on the fallen heroes for a bit, but it looks like that's bugged or something as well, my pets were getting practically NOTHING from them.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:53 pm
by BorntoRide
Bubu wrote:BorntoRide wrote:Herbing does indeed level a pet. I was able to level Chromaggus from 77 1/2 to 80 in about 45 minutes to an hour , picking herbs in Scholar Basin.
I was getting about 2500 pet xp per pick. Very Efficient
My Hunter is a Herbalist/alchemist.
Whew!
Have no idea how you did it...
almost hour and half blood rampage in IC gave me 1 bubble.
Not even talking 'bout lvl.
So yes indeed only herbalist can lvl-up pets fast now...
If you have Mining , that will work also. Blizzard added xp experience gain for gatherers in 4.0 or something.
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:52 pm
by Ryai
BorntoRide wrote:If you have Mining , that will work also. Blizzard added xp experience gain for gatherers in 4.0 or something.
Why is no one listening to me?
I have repeatedly said it before testing and am saying it again. Pets are only getting Experience with Herbalism. It's not happening with mining. I know this because I went around the basin testing this out as I had to farm saronite and herbs for Yasindra and Vaeketh [for their eng/inscription respectively] and it was the quickest way to get to the bottom of this problem.
1: Herbalism for some strange reason gives pets 1.2k-2.8k exp, depending on the herb looted. More would probably have been gained from Ice Thorn/Lichbloom or whatever.
2: MINING GAVE NO EXPERIENCE AT ALL. None. Whatsoever.
This is quite clearly [and most likely] an unintended bug and not something that's meant if A: it's only working with Herbalism and B: wasn't said ANYWHERE in the notes. Seriously people do you think they would have ONLY done this for Gathering Hunters? Don't you think that's extremely unfair? If they were going to do something like this, wouldn't they have made it where pets get exp from quests instead?
Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:32 pm
by Worba
Ryai wrote:If they were going to do something like this, wouldn't they have made it where pets get exp from quests instead?
Yeah.
I've been asking for pets to share quest XP since... hummm... 2005 or so?
On the one hand, it probably hasn't happened previously due to difficulty of programming it... but on the other hand as we now see with herbalism XP, it looks like they've just tripped over a way to do it*??
Hope springs eternal.....
*Yes I know gathering is not exactly the same as turning in a quest however it's a lot more like quest turnin XP than mob-kill XP if you think about it....

Re: The nerf to instance experience buggered our pets =/
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:43 pm
by Ryai
Worba wrote:*Yes I know gathering is not exactly the same as turning in a quest however it's a lot more like quest turnin XP than mob-kill XP if you think about it....

You're ignoring the fact that only Herbalist Hunters are getting any real benefit from this. Miners, skinners or people who have non gathering professions
aren't getting anything.
So no sorry it really isn't like quest gain EXP: because only a special few are able to benefit from this, and not everyone. And while I admit I used this method to level Sarah and my Silithid up on Ryai- it was only one level a piece and I ticketed it. Because it's not right and I still feel bad about using it :/