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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:05 am
by Wain
HunterFTW wrote:Ok So to give a better image of what I was talking about when I said the guns skins effect hati wolf modle. I know its sloppy cause I used paint (sew me) but I hope it gives a better idea. So the wolf modle would be with the guns skin and then add the colors to the skins will change the wolf's color. This is just an example though.
They've already added the other Hati colours to the database, and they pretty much correspond with the gun's glows (blue, gren, red, purple... there's no specific yellow but they may have decided to be frugal and have the yellow/green count for both?)

Having the base wolf model (as well as colour) change with the gun would be kinda cool, but I don't think they're going that way. We'd need other wolf models that each had the same range of glow colours but we're not seeing that. And since this is a specific wolf (Hati) it might be weird if she changes shape too greatly. The colouration may be as far as they'll go with it.

Then again, we do have Draenor wolves with lightning, fel, void and fire effects, so the colours would be pretty much covered if they did decide to use that model for one of the gun models. Like Hati on steroids.

Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:48 am
by HunterFTW
even if they didn't plan to go that route its atleast something to consider. Even if the big model change is extreme in lore perspective but even in lore perspective it could be cool. Like with fable 2 your K9 changing to over time depending on certain things. In this case the gun and the wolf changes (while doesn't have to be extreme) aswell. But again its just an idea they could consider or not.

Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:35 pm
by f1nr
So, remember those lightning wolf and his snowy friend? Apparently they are new Enh Shaman wolves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlIYliU9VEQ

I'm still hoping for a new Hati model...

Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:02 pm
by SpiritBinder
Awwwwwww, dang it!

The lighting one looks so good too... :|

Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:31 pm
by Equeon
Blech! Why does the class with a 30 second ability get the high-res and fancy model with special effects, whereas the one with a permanent summoned guardian is stuck with a recolored one from 8 years ago?

Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:44 pm
by Wain
f1nr wrote:So, remember those lightning wolf and his snowy friend? Apparently they are new Enh Shaman wolves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlIYliU9VEQ

I'm still hoping for a new Hati model...
Ah wow. I'll be happy with those on my shammy.

It doesn't mean there won't be a tameable rare for hunters somewhere, though. There are precedents for being able to tame the same looks as shaman spirit wolves :)

Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:54 pm
by Wain
... though maybe not right away. I can imagine them wanting to let them be unique to shammies for a while first, but who knows? We're still to see a tameable fire one of that model, and the light tan one. Hopefully soon :) Ooo and they should totally make a black-and-red Nightmare one!

Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:58 pm
by SpiritBinder
Wain wrote:Ooo and they should totally make a black-and-red Nightmare one!
One can #dream :)

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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:08 pm
by Qraljar
Equeon wrote:Blech! Why does the class with a 30 second ability get the high-res and fancy model with special effects, whereas the one with a permanent summoned guardian is stuck with a recolored one from 8 years ago?
This. I mean, I get that we get some nice new pets, so we're getting treated well in that regard.

But all the druid forms, these wolves, and BM is stuck with a recoloured Skoll. I really - really don't like that model.

And I know Hati is supposed to be related to Skoll (at least in mythology) so it makes sense, but as counterpoint, I'd give Fenryr, who has the new model.

Really, the WoD or Legion wolf model (granted it has glowing eyes - I don't like the Legion model's current eyes) would be amazing. You'd think they'd pay some attention to it.

I mean, they still can, but they usually don't really create custom skins for something that is placeholder, so my assumption is that it's intended to be the "final product" for now.

Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:31 am
by Juxia
Equeon wrote:Blech! Why does the class with a 30 second ability get the high-res and fancy model with special effects, whereas the one with a permanent summoned guardian is stuck with a recolored one from 8 years ago?
I must admit, this was my first thought as well. It seems at odds with how much effort they're putting into some things (all the new tameables, the really nice updated skins, the fancy shammy wolves) to use such an old model for what seems to be quite a major element of our new spec mythos.

I'm hoping the recoloured Skolls do turn out to be place holders but, like others, I can't help wondering why they bothered making the new versions if they're only placeholders......

Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:39 pm
by zedxrgal
Equeon wrote:Blech! Why does the class with a 30 second ability get the high-res and fancy model with special effects, whereas the one with a permanent summoned guardian is stuck with a recolored one from 8 years ago?
My feelings /thoughts EXACTLY. Felt kinda like WTF. Shaman's get these badass Draenor wolves while we're stuck with a NR worg. :evil:

Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:38 pm
by Silivren
I love that those wolves are for shaman, every class deserves something special. Shaman have the Doomhammer and already have Feral Spirits as a spell, they constantly use it, Doom Wolves adds the fury of the elements to their wolves. I mean tbh, Shaman's are by and by the wolf class. They've always been heavily tied to wolves. Yeah it sucks Hati is a NR worg but stomping all over shaman's and blaming them and saying they shouldn't have cool stuff too because you're unhappy isn't cool and feels really crappy. And yes I say this as an enhance shammy who is overjoyed I get something neat. Don't forget that other classes besides hunters should get cool stuff too. :/

Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:30 am
by Sukurachi
N'jala wrote:I love that those wolves are for shaman, every class deserves something special. Shaman have the Doomhammer and already have Feral Spirits as a spell, they constantly use it, Doom Wolves adds the fury of the elements to their wolves. I mean tbh, Shaman's are by and by the wolf class. They've always been heavily tied to wolves. Yeah it sucks Hati is a NR worg but stomping all over shaman's and blaming them and saying they shouldn't have cool stuff too because you're unhappy isn't cool and feels really crappy. And yes I say this as an enhance shammy who is overjoyed I get something neat. Don't forget that other classes besides hunters should get cool stuff too. :/
I think you're missing the point that is being made and being needlessly defensive.

No one is saying that "Shaman should not get cool stuff".

The example was given that Shaman get a new wolf skin to go along with a new short-term ability, while BM Hunters get an old skin for a new obligatory permanent companion.
The point being that at this point in time, it feels like more work was put into other class's new special abilities than was put into Hunters', which are the de facto "pet class".

So no one is "stomping" on anyone. It is only being pointed out that at this time other classes appear to have more effort put into the updating of their spells and effects than BM hunters.

Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:38 pm
by WingedCaduceus

Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:35 pm
by Quiv
SpiritBinder wrote:Image
i love this so much :shock: I'd call it BombPop

Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:36 pm
by Wain
Oh I missed that recolour. Great job on the Nightmare wolf look :). Add a nightmare shimmer and that would be amazing. :)

Actually there is a nightmare shimmer effect that is applied to a lot of mobs in the infected areas, but it would probably be lost on taming :(

Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:06 pm
by Bendak
Yep. This isn't over, folks.

Also, I just noticed Hati now gets healed when you use Mend Pet. It's only for about ~30% of what your main pet gets healed, but it's nice to have some healing on her. Next step is letting us control her!

Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:13 pm
by Nazja
I just hope that, if they (allow us to) change the appearance of Hati, her brother's appearance will also change to match hers. It wouldn't do for him to look like a Northrend worg while his sister looks like one of those nice Broken Isles wolves.

Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 8:05 pm
by Nachtwulf
This is in regard to warlocks' 'Summon Beholder' but I'm sure it's the reason for Hati's weirdnesses as well...

• Pet AI in general has some bugs with responsiveness right now. Those'll get fixed.

Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 4:37 am
by Shinryu Masaki
Looks like we're getting a new Hati model! At least I hope it's her...

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