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Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:51 pm
by Nanotrev
It walks that way because it's the new walk animation for silithids. They made it to match the silithid mounts.

Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:10 pm
by zedxrgal
Renle wrote:
This is going to sound harsh (but it's really not meant that way) this is why this should have been kept as quiet as possible. Not secret per say but surely not have received the press it got and the removal is why
If secrecy was what would have saved this pet, then it was doomed to begin with, as the way it was discovered for the most part was in the Totalbiscuit cata video. Totalbiscuit even stops and points out the pet. His videos are very widely watched, so there was no way we were gonna be able to keep it a secret.
And if you re-read what I said said I in no way said for it to be kept "secret". :) I've even said in my original posts on this it shouldn't be kept a secret just as quiet as possible. Yes TB had it in his video, but this bug created A LOT of buzz beyond his video and the actual time shown isn't really that long.

But I still chalk it up to Blizz just being Blizz and ruining things for hunters. They seem to take away all the fun and great stuff for us.

Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:11 pm
by Quin
Qraljar wrote:
Please hold me. I am sad : (
:( :hug: I'm sorry. I kind of wanted the blue brain-bug and I know a lot of people were super excited about it. I'm sorry Blizzard is taking it away.

Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:34 pm
by Kalliope
meunkin wrote:The brain bugs are still there, they have new names now though :)

Found old Soriid and Haarka deep under the hives too
OH! So they're mocking us AND keeping Soriid/Haarka. That's slightly better, at least! :lol:

Actually, this way, it seems less like mocking and more of an acknowledgement of the hunter community in general.

STILL, Blizz should open up some of the other silithid models, even if the brainbugs are too close to sentient to be tamed.

Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:46 pm
by cowmuflage
yeah the scarabs and the worker ones should really be tameable.

Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:31 pm
by Quin
Kalliope wrote:
OH! So they're mocking us AND keeping Soriid/Haarka. That's slightly better, at least! :lol:

Actually, this way, it seems less like mocking and more of an acknowledgement of the hunter community in general.

STILL, Blizz should open up some of the other silithid models, even if the brainbugs are too close to sentient to be tamed.
Well, we can tame raptors! The Wow raptors are quite smart if you look at the Venomhide quests! They wear jewelry, can draw pictographs, etc. They seem to understand the value of certain things as "money" versus just grabbing anything shiny (That Stolen Silver quest).

If we can tame them, why not brain bugs? :D

Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:09 pm
by Pent
I am still keeping mine for the time being.

No reason to dump them, and go retame the Spirit Beasts I junked for the Silithids.

I can honestly say that it doesn't matter...

...I would rather have Gezz, Krush, slime croc, and a Spirit Wolf.

Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:18 pm
by Qraljar
Quin wrote:
Qraljar wrote:
Please hold me. I am sad : (
:( :hug: I'm sorry. I kind of wanted the blue brain-bug and I know a lot of people were super excited about it. I'm sorry Blizzard is taking it away.
Thanks. :cry:

That helped.

And on the thing of the Ticks/Brainbugs/Colossi' being too sentient, incorrect -- those are the qiraji colossi who are basically intelligent versions of the silithids, Haarka and Soriid seem to be Silithids so they're not -that- smart. So there's no reason at all for them not to be tamable, seems Blizzard thinks of it differently though :S

Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:19 pm
by Darknez
Interestingly enough - both Silithids are still not quite right.
If you Beast Lore your own pets you'll see they are "Untameable". Also they are still not classed as exotic as my hunter can bring them out without having the Beast Mastery talent.

Either way - I'll keep them. I have grown quite attached to the little critters (on live and beta!).

Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:21 pm
by Kalliope
Qraljar wrote:And on the thing of the Ticks/Brainbugs/Colossi' being too sentient, incorrect -- those are the qiraji colossi who are basically intelligent versions of the silithids, Haarka and Soriid seem to be Silithids so they're not -that- smart. So there's no reason at all for them not to be tamable, seems Blizzard thinks of it differently though :S
Haarka and Soriid ARE silithids again, though. The colossi might be something else, especially now that they're no longer new versions of existing mobs.

Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:23 pm
by Saturo
Darknez wrote:Interestingly enough - both Silithids are still not quite right.
If you Beast Lore your own pets you'll see they are "Untameable". Also they are still not classed as exotic as my hunter can bring them out without having the Beast Mastery talent.

Either way - I'll keep them. I have grown quite attached to the little critters (on live and beta!).
0.o

That's AWESOME! I hope they don't nerf the non-BM requirement, I wanna' run around with Lapress all the time! :D

Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:33 pm
by Protego
Damn it, that sucks that they reverted the Silithids. I'm not gonna keep Haarka now. To me, I doubt Blizzard "knew" about the Silithids from the get-go. Oh well, 1 Stable slot that I can "give back" to a pet that I had to Abandon. No, Grunter was not an "intended change" to me. And to my knowledge, you can still create Worgens with the "older model". Worgens with the tamer look to them. :P

Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:49 pm
by Qraljar
Kalliope wrote:
Qraljar wrote:And on the thing of the Ticks/Brainbugs/Colossi' being too sentient, incorrect -- those are the qiraji colossi who are basically intelligent versions of the silithids, Haarka and Soriid seem to be Silithids so they're not -that- smart. So there's no reason at all for them not to be tamable, seems Blizzard thinks of it differently though :S
Haarka and Soriid ARE silithids again, though. The colossi might be something else, especially now that they're no longer new versions of existing mobs.
I knew they are Silithids again, but I meant that the colossi aren't as sentient as people think, which is too sentient to be tamed. The only example was Buru the Gorger who wasn't a Silithid, it was a Qiraji. The tick skin of Haarka and Soriid weren't Qiraji, therefore alot less intelligent :)

Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:30 pm
by Kalliope
Qraljar wrote:
Kalliope wrote:
Qraljar wrote:And on the thing of the Ticks/Brainbugs/Colossi' being too sentient, incorrect -- those are the qiraji colossi who are basically intelligent versions of the silithids, Haarka and Soriid seem to be Silithids so they're not -that- smart. So there's no reason at all for them not to be tamable, seems Blizzard thinks of it differently though :S
Haarka and Soriid ARE silithids again, though. The colossi might be something else, especially now that they're no longer new versions of existing mobs.
I knew they are Silithids again, but I meant that the colossi aren't as sentient as people think, which is too sentient to be tamed. The only example was Buru the Gorger who wasn't a Silithid, it was a Qiraji. The tick skin of Haarka and Soriid weren't Qiraji, therefore alot less intelligent :)
That's what I'm saying, though; these new silithids could be Qiraji, now that they're no longer Soriid and Haarka. Or is that not how it works?

Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:24 pm
by cowmuflage
Buru the Gorger is NOT a Qiraji hes a silithid. Qiraji are humoinoids.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Buru_the_Gorger

There is no such thing as a qiraji colossus only silithid colossus
http://www.wowwiki.com/Silithid_colossus

I hope that clears things up :D

Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:09 am
by Renle
And if you re-read what I said said I in no way said for it to be kept "secret". :) I've even said in my original posts on this it shouldn't be kept a secret just as quiet as possible. Yes TB had it in his video, but this bug created A LOT of buzz beyond his video and the actual time shown isn't really that long.

But I still chalk it up to Blizz just being Blizz and ruining things for hunters. They seem to take away all the fun and great stuff for us.
Secret/kept "as quiet as possible"/on the D.L./use a special handshake to receive information/etc.
It doesn't matter, Bliz would have still found out. Whether sooner or later it doesn't really matter, though I'm in the opinion they knew far longer then the hunter community even did. ;P
Just because a few things slip through the cracks doesn't mean the dev team is blind to things like this. And thinking that there is any way that the hunter community could know something that they don't is slightly silly. For all we know there could be a spy among us ;)
(If I were bliz I'd put a spy here lol. After all it seems that us hunters are the only class actively looking to cheat game mechanics on a consistent basis) :P

Anyways, I'm kinda glad this happened sooner rather then later, so it didn't make it into live and get everyone's hopes up that it would stay/we didn't get a chance to get too attached to the pets.

I do find the new names on the bugs to be rather funny, and fitting. Even though it seems the dev team is kinda making fun of us xP
You win this time Blizzard! You win this time.
*slinks away to the shadows to plot next diabolical pet taming plan*

Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:06 am
by Curumor
Renle wrote: (If I were bliz I'd put a spy here lol. After all it seems that us hunters are the only class actively looking to cheat game mechanics on a consistent basis) :P
Every class has their little speciality when it comes to "cheating". Rogues like stun locking, for example. :P
We just mostly do it when it comes to pets. :lol:

About silithids:
"Silithid are an intelligent insectoid race that have grown in strength and power in recent years."
"Before the Great Sundering, Kalimdor, the ancient continent of eternal starlight, was a nurturing mother to all of its creatures. At the continent's center was a mysterious lake of incandescent energies, the Well of Eternity. It was the true heart of the world's magic and natural power. From this magical ether the Silithid were born. As the fallen Old God C'Thun recognized their appearance, he attempted to sunder the world that it once held in its merciless grasp. The Old God created avatars from the Silithid in its own image. These avatars were eventually known as Qiraji. Sapient and with thousands of years the Qiraji worked feverishly to build a force capable of laying waste to the world that would betray their god with the Silithids as their minions. "

So how intelligent they are is up for debate. Considering a lot of beasts in Azeroth possess clear intelligence (the wolves in Howling Fjord, for example), I'd say it's a pretty loose term in WoW. ^^

Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:11 am
by Qraljar
Kalliope wrote:
That's what I'm saying, though; these new silithids could be Qiraji, now that they're no longer Soriid and Haarka. Or is that not how it works?
Well.. I've misread cause seemingly Silithids are just as sentient as the Qiraji, yet we can tame the regular reaver ones (lol wuuuut, lack of sense much)

''Individual silithid possess a certain level of animal cunning, but are unintelligent. They exist to serve the hive, and are specialized in their roles. Wasps attack, tunnelers dig, reavers defend, swarmers train, queens lay eggs, and so on. A silithid instinctively gives its life for the colony.''

And if Haarka and Soriid were a part of the hive, they essentially were a part of that colony and as an individual (as which you tame them) unintelligent. But this also remains to be speculation ofcourse. But I kinda think the inclusion into a hive with unintelligent creatures would be weird if the colossi themselves are alot more intelligent. :P

Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:14 am
by Darknez
Currently Haarka and Soriid are not tameable in beta even though they have been "replaced" again.

Re: Soriid + Haarka - Potentially Changing Silithids

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:47 pm
by Undra
Kalliope wrote:
meunkin wrote:The brain bugs are still there, they have new names now though :)
Found old Soriid and Haarka deep under the hives too
OH! So they're mocking us AND keeping Soriid/Haarka. That's slightly better, at least! :lol:
Actually, this way, it seems less like mocking and more of an acknowledgement of the hunter community in general.
Mocking a community is a form of acknowledgement. I want to chuckle with titles like "the untamable" and "Super-Exotic", i really do, but I'm a little too close to the action to find amusement. Clearly if the red was "And a miss" then the blue should have been "Noh'Siggar the Untamable"

heh, actually i do feel better now. And that's less stress on my live stables. Beta is beta, and all we can do is have fun with the glitches it has. Don't let beta affect your Live game.