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He is new, things could change. Though he likely see's things from our point of view, but could be told what to say.Junrei wrote:Well atleast Lore isn't being a douche about all this. That gives me some teensy bit of hope.
I know but still....I'll take Lore over GC anyday atm.AdamSavage wrote:He is new, things could change. Though he likely see's things from our point of view, but could be told what to say.Junrei wrote:Well atleast Lore isn't being a douche about all this. That gives me some teensy bit of hope.
better than nothing, and i don't use scatter much anywaysGlyph of Scattered Thoughts (NYI): Your Scatter Shot no longer Disorients the target, but now interrupts their spellcasts, preventing any spells in the same school from being cast for 4 sec, and Scatter Shot's range is increasd by 0 yards.
Foresight? Planned thinking? What are those?!Tunderbrew wrote:Aye, that glyph is better than nothing. However; I still don't understand why such a universal piece of DPS kit is not baseline for the class and requires a glyph slot. And their reasoning of 'too much CC' looks arbitrary at best when one of our specs will have access to a true interrupt with blanket silence and a disorient or two true interrupts.
It's a start, definitely but the class is still in shambles.Chaix wrote:looks like somebody was actually paying attention.
from wowheadbetter than nothing, and i don't use scatter much anywaysGlyph of Scattered Thoughts (NYI): Your Scatter Shot no longer Disorients the target, but now interrupts their spellcasts, preventing any spells in the same school from being cast for 4 sec, and Scatter Shot's range is increasd by 0 yards.
Considering what we really need Silence for (outside of PVP) is situational, this could be a acceptable solution for that.Junrei wrote:It's a start, definitely but the class is still in shambles.Chaix wrote:looks like somebody was actually paying attention.
from wowheadbetter than nothing, and i don't use scatter much anywaysGlyph of Scattered Thoughts (NYI): Your Scatter Shot no longer Disorients the target, but now interrupts their spellcasts, preventing any spells in the same school from being cast for 4 sec, and Scatter Shot's range is increasd by 0 yards.
That's basically the problem with our CC. We have it, we're called THE CC class, and yet our use for it is so varied and situational, so neutered, it doesn't really amount to squat. It's like demanding a beautiful cake, then wondering why the baker hates you after you tell them to cook the cake without an oven and half of the ingredients.Ariamodasu wrote:Why oh why are glyphs supposed to be the spell changers that people need. There's a healing Druid one as well and they're still dodging how crap we are at moving claiming it'll come later when we've had painfully little all expac.
Still confused about Hunter's having a ton of CC, I have roots but it doesn't mean it works in holding things still most of the time.
I think Cyclone on Aria and the iceburg trap as I always mix the two frost traps up is the only real CC I use between the twoNevish wrote:That's basically the problem with our CC. We have it, we're called THE CC class, and yet our use for it is so varied and situational, so neutered, it doesn't really amount to squat. It's like demanding a beautiful cake, then wondering why the baker hates you after you tell them to cook the cake without an oven and half of the ingredients.Ariamodasu wrote:Why oh why are glyphs supposed to be the spell changers that people need. There's a healing Druid one as well and they're still dodging how crap we are at moving claiming it'll come later when we've had painfully little all expac.
Still confused about Hunter's having a ton of CC, I have roots but it doesn't mean it works in holding things still most of the time.
At least they DO something useful.I'm not surprised by this.Tunderbrew wrote:A slight tangent, but I found this post to be amusing and demonstrative(in regards to the debate over our class' cc kit):
"The funny thing is I made the exact same point to Holinka on his Twitter during the last PTR in response to Hunter pet CCs being thrown in to the wood chipper. I politely asked why Hunters were being targeted for heavy CC nerfing while none of the other main offenders were as well. His response was a snarky retort and listed a CC chain by Hunters (ignoring the fact it used traps and their dubious reliability in PvP). I posted again with three other CC chains, one each for Rogues, Mages and Warlocks. Two of them were nearly identical in duration with Hunters and the Rogue one worked out to be even longer. At which point, Holinka decided to just ignore the conversation and any further posts about it."
I'll reiterate something I said in another thread regarding this:Junrei wrote:It's a start, definitely but the class is still in shambles.Chaix wrote:looks like somebody was actually paying attention.
from wowheadbetter than nothing, and i don't use scatter much anywaysGlyph of Scattered Thoughts (NYI): Your Scatter Shot no longer Disorients the target, but now interrupts their spellcasts, preventing any spells in the same school from being cast for 4 sec, and Scatter Shot's range is increasd by 0 yards.
That about sums it up.Ickabob wrote:This glyph is a crappy band-aid at best. Scatter as an interrupt will be inferior to other class's options and here's why:
1. Scatter Shot has a 30 second CD. That's long if you compare it to Rogues 15 second Kick CD or Shaman's 12 second CD Wind Shear.
2. Scatter has a 20 yard range. Wind Shear is 25 yards and Mage's Counterspell is a whopping FORTY yards.
3. Scatter is on the GCD. Other interrupts are not on the GCD. This means, that in the heat of the moment when interrupting often matters most, you'll likely be mid cast and have to stop your casting (using a /stopcasting macro) and use your interrupt, but won't because you're GCD locked.
We shouldn't have to take a badly implemented band-aid that gives us second rate functionality compared to what other classes have baseline. That's not to mention that no PVPer in their right mind will ever use this glyph because it means giving up Scatter trapping. God forbid if there happens to be a PVE encounter where we have to control adds and interrupt. We'd be screwed.
I also remember GC stating that they want to move away from mandatory glyphs, yet I'm pretty sure this one will become mandatory for PVE, right along side Deterrance and Animal Bond. I guess adding new spells is hard.
The new guys, including Lore, are quite snarky. Rygarius takes delight in tweeting about banning people.AdamSavage wrote:I'm not surprised by this.Tunderbrew wrote:A slight tangent, but I found this post to be amusing and demonstrative(in regards to the debate over our class' cc kit):
"The funny thing is I made the exact same point to Holinka on his Twitter during the last PTR in response to Hunter pet CCs being thrown in to the wood chipper. I politely asked why Hunters were being targeted for heavy CC nerfing while none of the other main offenders were as well. His response was a snarky retort and listed a CC chain by Hunters (ignoring the fact it used traps and their dubious reliability in PvP). I posted again with three other CC chains, one each for Rogues, Mages and Warlocks. Two of them were nearly identical in duration with Hunters and the Rogue one worked out to be even longer. At which point, Holinka decided to just ignore the conversation and any further posts about it."
Slickrock wrote:
Methinks they are getting close to that point where their poor attitudes cause a mass unsub.