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Wain wrote:When my fail guild finally gets that content down a patch late, I'll be sure not to tell you and make you sad

Keke, it's because of you that my daft elitist attitude has become a lot more in check. One can never know to who or why others have what they have, or do what they do, but to judge anyone because of it is insulting to one's own intelligence. Oh and yes I'll be sad when you get yours, cause you will have the baby dark phoenix to match it dammit! (/jokes)


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Wain wrote: You helped me get my vitreous drake mount on the weekend. As far as I'm concerned you already rule

Hey we still have to get you a Drake of the North Wind too, that's gonna be another whole can of luck we have yet to crack open

zedxrgal wrote:If this goes live ...................... I'm done. Blizzard seemingly has stopped catering to the largest of the player base which is the harder or hardcore raiders and dungeon goers. What is the point if it's not hard????? Where's the challenge??

I'm sorry but for me, this may be the straw that breaks the camel's back. My subscription ends in June and I may not be renewing at this point. What a shame.

Novikova wrote:I just can't grasp this 'raiders should get all the content, casuals shouldn't see anything except 5 mans maybe' sentiment.

There are so many views on this subject that you don't have to grasp this sentiment, just be aware that everyone has different opinions and views on this. I believe Cynical Brit (love him or hate him) also shares a concern in the direction certain things are going (agree with him or not), but for other reasons too. Acherontia has started a lovely thread with a link over
here ---> http://forums.wow-petopia.com/viewtopic ... 15&t=12015
I for one don't normally listen to his podcast very often but I found a lot of what he had to say rather interesting simply due to it opening my eyes/mind to others thinking and options (agree with them or not)

I guess I'm just saying weather you choose to agree with them or not, the more options one can hear/read/listen to, the more of an informed personal decision one can make, even if some can be as possibly uninspiring as FFFFFUUUUU >:-Q

Saturo wrote:This is bullshit. Makes me proud of my decision to leave WoW.

Saturo wrote:My message? That I seriously disapprove of where the game is headed lately.

Saturo wrote:I'll keep on posting my profanities and negative attitudes, thankyouverymuch

- Current heroic raid content will remain unchanged. Heroic Cho'gall, heroic Atramedes, heroic Nefarian will all be as difficult as they are now. So you won't see guilds that are 9/12 normal mode waltzing into heroic BoT and killing Sinestra the day 4.2 goes live. She's still going to be ludicrously hard.
- The raids we currently have will become outdated content the day Firelands becomes available, the same way Naxx became outdated when Ulduar came out and Trial of the Crusader became outdated when ICC came out. They will no longer even reward you with valor points, and all current valor point gear will switch to being purchasable with justice points (the same points one can get for running normal 85 dungeons). This means that entry-level raiding will be obsolete, and the only people doing it will be people just starting out or a few completists.
- Therefore, it is in the interest of the game to let people see this content once it becomes obsolete and move on as quickly as possible.
- You can return your seat to its normal, upright position now. If anyone is telling you that this is an outrage, a slap in the face, a nod to the casuals, the ruination of the game, or the horns of the dread Armagedillo poking forth, they're wrong. And possibly a hysterical maniac who overreacts to a simple armadillo pet.

Look, to say this again: The second that patch 4.2 drops and we have Firelands and a new boss in Tol Barad's Baradin Hold, this current content becomes yesterday's news. It immediately loses its status as cutting-edge content. If anyone is struggling on it due to lack of gear, time constraints, or even an inability to complete it, that no longer matters. The content you're meant to be doing for bragging rights is over in the Firelands, folks.

Accessibility for a bunch of old content you've already been doing for months doesn't affect you at all. It's not as if it will provide anything a raider on the cutting edge of content will care about. It will provide gear that is the same ilevel as justice point purchases and justice points -- same as any normal level 85 dungeon.

Players who won't be able to raid Firelands will likely go into these raids to see them for the first time, and there's nothing wrong with that. They're a whole tier of content behind you, anyway.

Combine this with the fact that the heroic level encounters are seeing no changes at all, and you completely avoid any sort of "dumbing down" of content you did when it was hard. The hard stuff is staying hard. Frankly, some of the raid encounters were probably a bit overtuned for people coming into them in 346 blues, anyway. If you are long past normal raiding and are working on heroic Atramedes, those heroic kills you have already done are not going to be accomplished by people in a handful of epics in 4.2.

This is exactly like when all current raid content was nerfed at the end of The Burning Crusade so that people could see it before Wrath dropped. It's exactly like the scaling ICC buff that let groups progress after the hardest of the hardcore have already burned through it.

The sky is not falling.

zedxrgal wrote:That is a great quote Veph.

But at the same time, I am curious if Blizzard is basically putting that out there to cover their asses on this a bit to hopefully reduce some backlash. I don't know. But the Firelands raid is only going to have 7 bosses. I personally, and this is me only speaking for myself, feel it will not take long for people to get through that content. Then it will become as Blizzard or whomever put it, "outdated" to those who have completed it.

Gaw ............. I really wish I could fully put out there what I'm trying to relay. For me, it seems pointless to nerf something and to push new content out that will become outdated within a couple months. I'm sure the Firelands are going to be hard and hopefully harder then the Cata content which was beaten fairly quickly in my eyes but as it appears now it will still be old news after a couple months then people will be screaming for more "new" content.

But it is a good quote.