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Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:48 pm
by GormanGhaste
Ellaran wrote:It would be nice to have a dragon-ish beast class that has Faerie dragons, Mana Wyrms, Whelps of the Dragons and Proto-drakes, and small Cloud Serpents as tamable.
Eeee, would love to have a faerie dragon hunter pet!
Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:07 pm
by Lisaara
Cloud Serpents are sentient so no, again. Proto Drakes seem to be borderline sentient so again I'd have to say nay.
Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:11 pm
by Snowy
Xakaal wrote:Loque looks 'too awesome' too tho.... i nearly died when i saw the model and then we suddenly got confirmation it was to be the model for our very first spirit beast
Loque is the only spirit beast that looks somewhat original. All the other spirit beasts were simple reskins and most of them are just spectral. But the new one is a brand new model, has a really epic glow around it and, as I said on the other thread, it reminds me too much of the druid fire-cat form which is also a boss model. Not saying I wouldn't like to see it as a new spirit beast, just saying I can't see it happening and I don't want to get my hopes up too much. I do hope as much as the next hunter though that it will be...
Also, Jessi - Have you played the MoP beta? How do you know cloud serpents are sentient creatures? Even things in beta are around 90% likely to get changed right now so don't say things like they're facts. Let people have their fun. I think we all wish that some dragonkin could be tameable but I think we also know that it's not likely to happen for lore reasons.
Faerie dragons do sound like a good idea to me though, since we can have them as mini-pets and all. Maybe some small proto-drakes too.
Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:18 pm
by Lisaara
Chaoyll wrote:Xakaal wrote:Loque looks 'too awesome' too tho.... i nearly died when i saw the model and then we suddenly got confirmation it was to be the model for our very first spirit beast
Loque is the only spirit beast that looks somewhat original. All the other spirit beasts were simple reskins and most of them are just spectral. But the new one is a brand new model, has a really epic glow around it and, as I said on the other thread, it reminds me too much of the druid fire-cat form which is also a boss model. Not saying I wouldn't like to see it as a new spirit beast, just saying I can't see it happening and I don't want to get my hopes up too much. I do hope as much as the next hunter though that it will be...
Also, Jessi - Have you played the MoP beta? How do you know cloud serpents are sentient creatures? Even things in beta are around 90% likely to get changed right now so don't say things like they're facts. Let people have their fun. I think we all wish that some dragonkin could be tameable but I think we also know that it's not likely to happen for lore reasons.
Faerie dragons do sound like a good idea to me though, since we can have them as mini-pets and all. Maybe some small proto-drakes too.
They're dragons. Dragons are sentient creatures. Just because it's in beta doesn't mean "Hey lets make the dragons suddenly be animalistic beasts so the hunters can tame them!"
Even Fae Dragons by any lore(WoW or otherwise) are sentient. They're much like the sprites...tricksters. There's a famous one from DnD named Perlivash -
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monste ... gon-faerie
We have dragon whelps as mini pets too...even Ethereal Soul Traders. Not every mini pet we have is gonna be some epic tameable pet.
People can have their fun all they want but it works both ways. You should let those who disagree be. We're in our right to disagree, especially on a dead-horse topic such as tameable dragons.

Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:30 pm
by Slickrock
Jessibelle wrote:They're dragons. Dragons are sentient creatures. Just because it's in beta doesn't mean "Hey lets make the dragons suddenly be animalistic beasts so the hunters can tame them!"
But I don't think we've ever seen that line definitely drawn. After all, we aren't talking about dragons of the aspects that can shape-shift and all that. There are a lot of "lower" dragonoids (drakes, etc) that you list that I'm not sure fall into the sentient category. If we have them as mini-pet companions, having them as regular pets isn't that far of a stretch. After all, taming them is just creating a companion bond with them.
That being said, I highly doubt that we'd ever see any of them tameable except perhaps for the fairie-dragonoid types, as none of them are really practical for taming.
Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:32 pm
by cowmuflage
Well Whelps are baby dragons so they'd go up to be dragons.
Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:35 pm
by Lisaara
Slickrock wrote:Jessibelle wrote:They're dragons. Dragons are sentient creatures. Just because it's in beta doesn't mean "Hey lets make the dragons suddenly be animalistic beasts so the hunters can tame them!"
But I don't think we've ever seen that line definitely drawn. After all, we aren't talking about dragons of the aspects that can shape-shift and all that. There are a lot of "lower" dragonoids (drakes, etc) that you list that I'm not sure fall into the sentient category. If we have them as mini-pet companions, having them as regular pets isn't that far of a stretch. After all, taming them is just creating a companion bond with them.
That being said, I highly doubt that we'd ever see any of them tameable except perhaps for the fairie-dragonoid types, as none of them are really practical for taming.
The Red, Blue, Black, Bronze, Green, Netherwings would like to have a word with you since all of their bretheren are indeed sentient since birth.
Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:38 pm
by Slickrock
Jessibelle wrote:Slickrock wrote:Jessibelle wrote:They're dragons. Dragons are sentient creatures. Just because it's in beta doesn't mean "Hey lets make the dragons suddenly be animalistic beasts so the hunters can tame them!"
But I don't think we've ever seen that line definitely drawn. After all, we aren't talking about dragons of the aspects that can shape-shift and all that. There are a lot of "lower" dragonoids (drakes, etc) that you list that I'm not sure fall into the sentient category. If we have them as mini-pet companions, having them as regular pets isn't that far of a stretch. After all, taming them is just creating a companion bond with them.
That being said, I highly doubt that we'd ever see any of them tameable except perhaps for the fairie-dragonoid types, as none of them are really practical for taming.
The Red, Blue, Black, Bronze, Green, Netherwings would like to have a word with you since all of their bretheren are indeed sentient since birth.
Lore reference for proto-drakes being sentient please?
Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:43 pm
by cowmuflage
Dragons should never be tameable. We have enough tameable things out there we don't really need Dragons. It's not world of huntercraft after all.

Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:46 pm
by Lisaara
Slickrock wrote:Jessibelle wrote:
The Red, Blue, Black, Bronze, Green, Netherwings would like to have a word with you since all of their bretheren are indeed sentient since birth.
Lore reference for proto-drakes being sentient please?
I said borderline.

Everyone is talking about taming all the dragons, not just protos.
http://www.wowpedia.org/Proto-dragon
The other dragons evolved from them, apparently.
and agreed cow. We got other classes that need attention.
Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:55 pm
by Slickrock
Jessibelle wrote:Slickrock wrote:
Lore reference for proto-drakes being sentient please?
I said borderline.

Everyone is talking about taming all the dragons, not just protos.
http://www.wowpedia.org/Proto-dragon
The other dragons evolved from them, apparently.
Sounds like a beast based on that.
I'm not saying that dragons as we now know them, should be tameable, but as monkeys are tameable, there are some "dragonoids" that would fall into the beast class.
Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:10 pm
by Galaxy
can't tame dragons b/c they are sentient. but. we can mount them and force them to do our bidding in terms of travel.
*giggle* I get ya'lls argument, but this thought struck me and has had me giggling for a bit now...
Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:16 pm
by cowmuflage
Proto-drakes should not be tameable ever. at all. I love them and think thats silly to have one as a hunter pet XD
Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:18 pm
by Lisaara
Galaxy wrote:can't tame dragons b/c they are sentient. but. we can mount them and force them to do our bidding in terms of travel.
*giggle* I get ya'lls argument, but this thought struck me and has had me giggling for a bit now...
Technically we dont force them. We rescue them and they wish to pay us back by helping us with travel.
Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:19 pm
by Snowy
Jessibelle wrote:Technically we dont force them. We rescue them and they wish to pay us back by helping us with travel.
In that sense then they could do the exact same thing but offer to help us fight. *Shrug* I wouldn't mind a slight questline of some kind of it meant a dragon for a hunter pet.
Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:22 pm
by Slickrock
cowmuflage wrote:Proto-drakes should not be tameable ever. at all. I love them and think thats silly to have one as a pet XD
So we can ride them and hunt them for leather, but not tame them? And there are far sillier pets.
Frankly, we shouldn't be skinning sentient species.
Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:23 pm
by cowmuflage
Slickrock wrote:cowmuflage wrote:Proto-drakes should not be tameable ever. at all. I love them and think thats silly to have one as a pet XD
So we can ride them and hunt them for leather, but not tame them? And there are far sillier pets.
Frankly, we shouldn't be skinning sentient species.
We have enough pets to choose from we don't need more :S Can't hunters just be happy with what we have allready?
Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:25 pm
by Slickrock
Jessibelle wrote:Galaxy wrote:can't tame dragons b/c they are sentient. but. we can mount them and force them to do our bidding in terms of travel.
*giggle* I get ya'lls argument, but this thought struck me and has had me giggling for a bit now...
Technically we dont force them. We rescue them and they wish to pay us back by helping us with travel.
And that certainly applies to the "higher" dragonoids, but not the proto-drakes.
But really, I want to know where that dividing line is.
Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:26 pm
by Slickrock
cowmuflage wrote:Slickrock wrote:cowmuflage wrote:Proto-drakes should not be tameable ever. at all. I love them and think thats silly to have one as a pet XD
So we can ride them and hunt them for leather, but not tame them? And there are far sillier pets.
Frankly, we shouldn't be skinning sentient species.
We have enough pets to choose from we don't need more :S Can't hunters just be happy with what we have allready?
Why the angst? So we shouldn't have any new pet models in Panda?.. I'll let Noah know.

Re: Cloud Serpents, possible new pet family?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:30 pm
by cowmuflage
I didnt say no new pet models just the whole "we should beable to tame evrything" stuff is annoying. Thats all.