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zedxrgal wrote:Am I the only one who thinks pandas should be allowed to be death knight???
Yes I know that doesn't follow lore, the story etc but I think a panda death knight would be extremely cool!!

Vote for panda death knights!!

When you ask for support, you're going to have people that give their reason for saying no. For many people, that reason is the lore. Not really a way to avoid that, imo.

Sigrah wrote:

It would make no sense at all, but it would be hilarious to see. I love this pic A roly-poly undead

Actually, from that angle he reminds me of a pit lord

zedxrgal wrote:Ok. So no one seemed to have got the point to my post.

zedxrgal wrote:Yes I know that doesn't follow lore, the story etc but I think a panda death knight would be extremely cool!!

So after quoting myself from my original post this was meant more as like a fun, putting lore completely aside topic. Lore had absolutely nothing to do with my just thinking it would be cool to have a panda death knight and wonder if anyone felt the same. Clearly I was wrong and way off.

And my statement still stands, I personally still don't want them to be DKs. It just doesn't seem right to me.

Just because people don't share your opinion doesn't mean you have to belittle it. (Theirs, or your own)

Jessibelle wrote:

Vulpixen wrote:

Jessibelle wrote:No no no and no. It would destroy their lore and also the lore of the DKs. The only reason worgens and goblins were permitted was because they both were around since the beginning of WoW, which made it feasible. The only Pandaren seen since Arthas's reign was Chen. All other Pandaren stayed on the wandering isle or pandaria. Arthas never saw either of those nor ever met a pandaren and I don't believe Chen ever went to Northrend.

Even worgen arent really feasible since they didnt "Become Sane" per say until AFTER the Lich Kings rein. Goblins have been around however, the only worgen that the Lich King could have seen were the more beastial crazy ones.

Well to be fair, they're only feasible because of the fact Arthas did run into them(or atleast his army did) so he could raise and 'tame them' to do his bidding. The lore dictates they're not the ones directly from Gilneas. The DK ones are from a different town that was ransacked near Shadowfang Keep.

Pyrewood iirc?

They should look like cool vanilla worgen then imo

Personally I think that players should be allowed to play any race/class that they like. Most of the actual lore is only in the books anyways, and people standing around in cities waiting for a magical "que" to pop and whisk them away to a dungeon isnt in any books i've read before, there is a lot of stuff in the Game itself that doesnt follow lore, or is a "modified" version of the lore.
And considering how several races have already had new class combo's added to them, I dont see why blizz just doesnt toss the restrictions on class/race for the game.

People who want to follow the lore can do that, and people who just want to play the game with the class/race they want can as well. but thats just my opinion.

Makoes wrote:Personally I think that players should be allowed to play any race/class that they like. Most of the actual lore is only in the books anyways, and people standing around in cities waiting for a magical "que" to pop and whisk them away to a dungeon isnt in any books i've read before, there is a lot of stuff in the Game itself that doesnt follow lore, or is a "modified" version of the lore.
And considering how several races have already had new class combo's added to them, I dont see why blizz just doesnt toss the restrictions on class/race for the game.

People who want to follow the lore can do that, and people who just want to play the game with the class/race they want can as well. but thats just my opinion.

There's an integrity when it comes to proper storytelling in a game. Sure, there are things that happen that clearly wouldn't happen in a "real" world. But when it comes to the lore and characters being presented within that world, there's a sense of grounded reality that exists. You don't see Varian queuing for battlegrounds, after all.

Sometimes, that more grounded reality within the fantasy applies to the players, just to keep us tethered to the realities of the world we're in. It's a fine line to walk, and it can bother some players, but every game has its own quirks and limitations that make it different than other games.

*nods at Kalliope* Some of the things that 'don't follow lore' are simply game mechanics that aren't in lore, or affecting lore, at all. Corpse running/spirit healer? Totally a game mechanic. If they were actually 'real,' no boss would ever stay dead...and most of them do. Usually.

Plus, lore wasn't the only argument against panda DKs...

zedxrgal wrote:Who said I was belittling anything??? Why take it personal as if it was an attack. Sheesh. I swear some people on this board are just to sensitive and take stuff to personally.

I'm not pissed off at all or taking it too personally. You're being just as guilty! It just looked like you were trying to belittle it since no one else agreed.

Road goes both way my friend.

I believe people are taking this thread the wrong way. It's more of a fun "pretend lore doesn't exist for a minute" topic. I'm not sure if that came across very clearly though. Either way, everyone can continue without taking it too seriously or taking insult.

/nod

Just to be clear I'll restate my non-lore objection to the idea:

DKs were the face of WotLK

Pandas are the face of MoP

Combining the two makes both somewhat muddled / less distinct, and thereby reducing overall impact; not really a big deal for WotLK but for an upcoming xpac this is non-incidental.

that was also why I suggested that it MIGHT "one day" become a possibility.

Blizzard has been known to lighten the reins a little a certain time after the release of an expack.

I don't honestly care about the lore once I'm level 85 (or 90, as MoP will have us). The lore was fun while I was playing. It was fun as I was doing quests and advancing through the story.

Once that's done, I don't really care anymore. And I suspect the vast majority of WoW players probably aren't that stuck on absolute accuracy regarding lore in the game.

They could relax that restriction yes, but the earliest I could see it happening would be either 1) when they've rolled out the xpac AFTER MoP, and MoP has become what wotlk is now, e.g. a bargain bin offering that's no longer terribly central to current game events, or 2) if MoP is performing well below projected minimums, they might get desperate and do a firehouse sale on whatever they think might generate more player interest.

WoW had lore issues at various points, but they just gave up with the Worgen retcons, imo. Now there's Tauren shadowpriests and paladins, and well...

After all that I don't really care how they try and justify class/race things. Panda DKs? Wouldn't faze me.

Acherontia wrote:WoW had lore issues at various points, but they just gave up with the Worgen retcons, imo. Now there's Tauren shadowpriests and paladins, and well...

After all that I don't really care how they try and justify class/race things. Panda DKs? Wouldn't faze me.

With everything that they have now.. I dont see why draenei warlocks dont exist They WERE related to Eredar after all and can be shadow priests.(I'm just saying this because warlock armor looks amazing on a draenei and I always wanted a draenei warlock. xD)

Vulpixen wrote:

Acherontia wrote:WoW had lore issues at various points, but they just gave up with the Worgen retcons, imo. Now there's Tauren shadowpriests and paladins, and well...

After all that I don't really care how they try and justify class/race things. Panda DKs? Wouldn't faze me.

With everything that they have now.. I dont see why draenei warlocks dont exist They WERE related to Eredar after all and can be shadow priests.(I'm just saying this because warlock armor looks amazing on a draenei and I always wanted a draenei warlock. xD)

Oh I hear ya there! It's my top wish list race-class combo, now that we have Troll druids!

I'm going to have to throw my vote in with the no crowd. Azeroth may have been lousy with goblins at the time (so that makes some sense... I guess... maybe...) but Gilneas had their own issues and the Pandaren shouldn't have been involved at all. It makes no sense for there to be loads of them running about.

Mozag wrote:

Vulpixen wrote: With everything that they have now.. I dont see why draenei warlocks dont exist They WERE related to Eredar after all and can be shadow priests.(I'm just saying this because warlock armor looks amazing on a draenei and I always wanted a draenei warlock. xD)

Oh I hear ya there! It's my top wish list race-class combo, now that we have Troll druids!

It's not a lack of ability, it's a cultural thing. And it's precisely because of the Eredar. Any Draenei that started summoning demons would become an outcast from their society and so not fit into the normal player progression storyline. Of course Draenei have to consort with other warlocks during the game, but that has to be one of those things that have to be ignored for convenience

Besides, imagine if you were a draenei warlock and you summoned your cousin or something. How embarrassing.