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Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:41 pm
by Ziarre
The debate over whether they're a replacement or addition is why I'm asking for someone to check the Alliance/Horde mount vendors on PTR, once this build goes in.

I'd do it myself, but my internet can't download the PTR.

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:43 pm
by Snowy
Personally I hope they start replacing models with these instead of just adding them in. Some things look so old and out of place now! And those wyverns... hng. <3

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:46 pm
by Vephriel
I'm assuming if they were ready to replace all the old models they would have the other skin colours available. The addition of horns also seems like a nod towards a new style of mount since wyverns have never had horns before. Not to say they can't change their mind on that, but it seems that these particular datamined models are only going to be new mounts. I would very much like to see them take this new model though and apply it to the older ones in the future, perhaps removing the horns to keep them more in line with the originals.

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:47 pm
by Ariamodasu
I'll check when the new build is downloadable, just typical the PTR has gone down sans build at the only time I can download anything.

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:50 pm
by Magnakilro
I don't think they'll start replacing old mount models. They've never done so in the past (countless drake models, RBG wolves, etc) don't think they're gonna start...same with tameables. Only things they fully updated and replaced thus far were druid forms way back when and the fire giants during Raggy's last stand if I remember correctly.

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:53 pm
by Kalliope
Junrei wrote:
Kalliope wrote:
Junrei wrote:I dunno. MMO Champ says it's a revamp...which usually means update.
Actually, MMO Champion said "updating the good old faction mounts with newcomers," which sounds like completely new mounts, not a revamp.
Updating the OLD faction mounts, plus adding two more. ;) Which I edited in my post to say.
Aaahhh, that's on MMO for not being clear then. Terribly constructed sentence and the name of the vid doesn't mention the old ones being at the end at all.

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:53 pm
by Miacoda
SWEET MOTHER OF ELUNE IT'S ABOUT TIME WIND RIDERS GOT SOMETHIN' PRETTY.
OH MY GOD IT'S GLORIOUS SKZDJBFKJZDBJKDZFGBJDFKGB
The gryphons wings are monstrous what is going on there I don't even

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:54 pm
by Ariamodasu
Magnakilro wrote:I don't think they'll start replacing old mount models. They've never done so in the past (countless drake models, RBG wolves, etc) don't think they're gonna start...same with tameables. Only things they fully updated and replaced thus far were druid forms way back when and the fire giants during Raggy's last stand if I remember correctly.
Us druids have had a looot of replacements over the years, thank god :) Hell Travel form has been a placeholder long enough.

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:58 pm
by Lisaara
Kalliope wrote:
Junrei wrote:
Kalliope wrote:
Actually, MMO Champion said "updating the good old faction mounts with newcomers," which sounds like completely new mounts, not a revamp.
Updating the OLD faction mounts, plus adding two more. ;) Which I edited in my post to say.
Aaahhh, that's on MMO for not being clear then. Terribly constructed sentence and the name of the vid doesn't mention the old ones being at the end at all.
This is true. We shall have to see then! Either way...the new models look fantastic!

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:02 pm
by Magnakilro
Ariamodasu wrote:
Magnakilro wrote:I don't think they'll start replacing old mount models. They've never done so in the past (countless drake models, RBG wolves, etc) don't think they're gonna start...same with tameables. Only things they fully updated and replaced thus far were druid forms way back when and the fire giants during Raggy's last stand if I remember correctly.
Us druids have had a looot of replacements over the years, thank god :) Hell Travel form has been a placeholder long enough.
Yeah you druids got some neat forms now XD. Point still stands tho....they've only replaced druid forms and the fire giants so far. Too many players may start raging if they start messing with mounts all of a sudden. Particularly many players may feel sentimental value for THESE particular mounts as they are the first flyers many players ever recieved.

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:07 pm
by Ariamodasu
Magnakilro wrote:
Ariamodasu wrote:
Magnakilro wrote:I don't think they'll start replacing old mount models. They've never done so in the past (countless drake models, RBG wolves, etc) don't think they're gonna start...same with tameables. Only things they fully updated and replaced thus far were druid forms way back when and the fire giants during Raggy's last stand if I remember correctly.
Us druids have had a looot of replacements over the years, thank god :) Hell Travel form has been a placeholder long enough.
Yeah you druids got some neat forms now XD. Point still stands tho....they've only replaced druid forms and the fire giants so far. Too many players may start raging if they start messing with mounts all of a sudden. Particularly many players may feel sentimental value for THESE particular mounts as they are the first flyers many players ever recieved.
Well we can always set the Sha of Happiness on them. I'll be one not mourning any loss but can use my art book for a neat progress point of view :) Just find it ironic I mentioned on twitter what I'd do with a manticore design then boom, Wyvern revamp. I'd totally steal the tail if made a bit less glued on looking.

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:10 pm
by Rubywashere
I really do like these new models a lot
BUt im just going to say it here: I really do like the old models as well
The old wyverns had these really neat looking cheetah spots that I honestly really liked. I liked how fluffy the gryphons seems, also the faces they made were if anything quite funny.

Now that thats done
I really love the new wyverns, they suit WoW much more. The gryphons....I like their new models but their eyes look too soulless

Now on the subject of updating old models
Iv'e been waiting for a moonkin update for a looonnngggg time. Im not too fond of stretchy feet

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:16 pm
by Ariamodasu
Rubywashere wrote:Now on the subject of updating old models
Iv'e been waiting for a moonkin update for a looonnngggg time. Im not too fond of stretchy feet
Oh thank god I'm not the only one! Thats why I use Glyph of Stars, I've had Moonkin since it was added god was it 1.8? and I just cannot stand the squash stretch animation running anymore. I feel so dated.

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:27 pm
by Mozag
I can't say I like these that much...the gryphon is quite ugly and the wings are strange. I vastly prefer my old version, despite this one being so much more fluid and realistic in design.

The wyvern would have been awesome, but...those horns? Really...why? But I do love their wings.

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:50 pm
by Wamo
Mumper confirmed them to be from the new factions in 5.1:

https://twitter.com/mumper/status/260838070272790530

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:11 pm
by Wain
The full quote is: "Blizzard is finally updating the good old faction mounts with newcomers: Grand Armored Gryphon and Grand Armored Wyvern"

That suggests to me that they are adding two new mounts that are updates on the old model, and not that they're changing the old mounts as well.

I'm especially glad of the wyvern. It looks really nice. I like the gryphon too, but the current gryphon isn't too bad as it is. The current wyvern, however, seems to be very low in polygons, very blocky. And the horns are pretty cool.

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:22 pm
by Kalliope
Wain wrote:The full quote is: "Blizzard is finally updating the good old faction mounts with newcomers: Grand Armored Gryphon and Grand Armored Wyvern"

That suggests to me that they are adding two new mounts that are updates on the old model, and not that they're changing the old mounts as well.
Oh good, it wasn't just me then. ;)

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:29 pm
by cowmuflage
Kalliope wrote:
Wain wrote:The full quote is: "Blizzard is finally updating the good old faction mounts with newcomers: Grand Armored Gryphon and Grand Armored Wyvern"

That suggests to me that they are adding two new mounts that are updates on the old model, and not that they're changing the old mounts as well.
Oh good, it wasn't just me then. ;)
That's what I got from it, That they where just new mounts.

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:38 pm
by Lisaara
Then I misinterpreted. I wish they would update the old ones. I might use them more.

Re: New Gryphon and Wyvern Models!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:03 pm
by Snowy
So maybe they won't update the old mount models with these. (Though I don't know what the non-armoured versions would be used for...) But even so, we get some really cool looking new ones!

I've had a closer look though and... well, that gryphon. The... wings... just... no. I hope they're not finished - way too big and WAY too stiff! >.<