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Re: New Lizard
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:38 pm
by Wain
I agree with Zed. I don't want to be a downer, but if they are uncommon in the wild already it's probably not good (and perhaps illegal?) to take a wild one for your pet. Sticking with captive-bred stock is much kinder to nature.
Re: New Lizard
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:59 am
by Silivren
I know plenty of people who have brought him turtles/lizards/etc as pets. Alligator lizards up there could be very different from the ones down here. That's the thing about biology. Two different species can exist in the two different places but be nothing alike. Makoes is taking care of it and has deinfested it from having ticks. To be honest if she had left it with those ticks all over it then it easily could have died. There's also that if she's never seen one before it IS a pet or was.. or it's been dumped and she took it in.
I'm not trying to be rude but she's taking very good care of it and I think Makoes is smart enough to know to let it go IF it gets aggressive.
Re: New Lizard
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:55 am
by ashdawn
I'd recommend seeing a proffessional or going to a vet in real life to get all the details, if you should keep it, if you can keep it then how to keep it alive, hibernation etc. I had a frog when I was little, not exactly a lizard but I can relate.
Re: New Lizard
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:32 pm
by Makoes
I was wondering when someone was going to bring up the whole wild animal/legal bit. Looking up the status of Northern Alligator lizards in the wild here, and they are apparently pretty common. As to legality, it is always illegal to domesticate a native wild animal. But I have no plans on debating legality here.
As to aggression, well funny story there...Last night I reached my finger into the tank to pet the lizard, and it turned and hissed am me, mouth open hissing in aggression...considering its size it was very hard not to burst out laughing...especially since it has no visible teeth. So, I started stroking it by the base of its head and down the neck, a spot that the bearded dragon always melts at, and sure enough it went from hissing, to its eyes closing and it even started to flatten out in pleasure. suddenly as if realising it was relaxing its eyes popped open and it started hissing again, so I repeated the process and sure enough there went its eyes, and it started to flatten out. eyes popped open, only a half hiss this time, mouth barely open, about 30 sec later it was just laying there with its eyes closed, and flattened out enjoying the pets.
Then it let me pick it up and i had it sitting in my open palm, its snake like tongue tasting my skin. It didn't try to get away, merely watched me as I watched it.
I am not sure whether or not it might have been someones pet, I've read how aggressive they can be, yet this one seems rather tame. It seems more curious then anything, even the day I caught it, it was not aggressive, despite being a nice warm day.
Re: New Lizard
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:50 pm
by Rawr
Sounds like a pet that was dumped to me. You take good care of it hun, and find a shoe box for it to hibernate in.

Re: New Lizard
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:55 pm
by Ana
Defo sound likes someones pet to me..
Glad you´r taking good care of it

.. it would have scared me to death

Re: New Lizard
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:09 pm
by ashdawn
Sounds awesome!

now, lets all think of possible names :3
Re: New Lizard
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:32 pm
by Rawr
Not sure what the name should be but let us know when you can do this with him Makoes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrefZPU-A2c

Re: New Lizard
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:28 pm
by Makoes
Oh that's awesome!!!!! Hehehehe, would love to be able to do something like that with it

Re: New Lizard
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:15 pm
by Silivren
If its really a boy you should name him Irwin. :3
Re: New Lizard
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:01 pm
by zedxrgal
I'm 99.9% sure that IS NOT someone's former pet. Also given the appeared tail bulge and head size it's probably male. I am (actually was) a vet tech specializing in exotics. I have owned and bred hundreds of species of reptiles. So. My opinion isn't based on a random opinion. Most wild reptiles have ticks and survive just fine with them believe it or not. They also have internal parasites too.
It's not fair to the animal (IN MY OPINION) to take it from the big wild open wilderness it's used to and putting in a box because you feel you "saved" it. Trust me you didn't. That animal is extremely healthy by the looks of it. I'm not trying to be rude but I'm firmly against animals being removed from the while like that. One lizard has a territory about the size of a large room of a house. That's a big space for a 6+ inch lizard.
I strongly suggest you let it go. If you MUST keep it better start researching now on ways to brumate (aka hibernate) the animal properly which isn't exactly easy regardless of what you read. Not hibernating the animal properly can and does lead to illness and possibly death.
Re: New Lizard
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:10 pm
by Rawr
A box on a shelf is a good place to hibernate, just make sure it's somewhere no one will bump it and where you can hear it wiggle when the little guy wakes up.

Re: New Lizard
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:45 am
by ashdawn
Makoes (Personally I'd call it toothless because of its toothlessness and im a huge fan of how to train your dragon but thats just me)
but yeah, I guess at this point its completely up to you if you want to keep it or not, there is perfectly reasonable sides at both ends, but its up to you now

Re: New Lizard
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:59 am
by cowmuflage
I don't understand how it not being aggressive means it was a pet? I mean I'm not trying to say anything about keeping it or anything but I just don't think not being aggressive = someones pet. That's assuming and we all know the saying that goes with that.