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Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:14 pm
by Saturo
Yah, in lore, anything is possible. I mean, there are human druids in the lore, even tough that doesn't really make sense.

Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:17 pm
by Rawr
Trollocks? Woot I finally have a reason to make a lock. :mrgreen:

Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:14 pm
by Kryte
Dwarf locks remind me more of the dwarves in the Twilight's Hammer than they do Dark Irons. Though, the Twilight's Hammer serve elementals, not demons so much.

Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:26 pm
by Valashe
Kryte wrote:Dwarf locks remind me more of the dwarves in the Twilight's Hammer than they do Dark Irons. Though, the Twilight's Hammer serve elementals, not demons so much.
Actually The Twilight Hammer serve the Old Gods (namely C'thun and his minion Cho'gall) and they enslave elementals for their own purposes. They also have nothing to do with the Bronzebeard clan or the Wildhammer clans in Dwarfish society.

The art of Fel Magic (Warlock) as well as that of Arcane Magic (Mages) are brought into the society of the Bronzebeard clan (aka player character Dwarf society) by closer contact with the Dark Iron's after the (presumed) birth of Moira Bronzebeard's child and heir to the throne of both the Dark Iron and Bronzebeard clans.

Closer contact with the Wildhammer Clan introduces Shamanism to the Bronzebeards, hence why player characters will be able to play Dwarf Shaman in the expansion.

Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:35 pm
by Gimlion
I've always been of the opinion that Blizzard should have let Humans be Druids too, mostly because that's what I planned my main to be after a long time spent on a 100% (cow level too) File of Diablo. My druid was a beast, and after introduction to WoW, i was hoping for the same.

I also thought that an Aragorn/Legolas Styled ranger, where they could specialize in ranged or melee, class would have been a neat idea, as long as they were different enough from rogues and hunters to be unique. :D

Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:26 am
by Kayb
Hm, I disagree with Humans being Druids, I don't think they should get it. Hell, I don't even think Worgen should have it.

If any were to get it, I'd suggest the Draeni, considering how buddy buddy they've gotten with the Nelfies.

Undead should get Paladins one day. I'd rather have them got it than Tauren TBH.

Thank god Belfies get Warriors at last though

Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:19 am
by Redith
HELL YHA! BELF WARRIORS! ...Just someone PLEASE explain lore wise why Tauren can Pali up now. Seriously they are a nature focussed group. Them being Palis makes as much sence as a human becoming a druid. Oh and wargen druid way makes scence. Night elves probably tought them it since they were their sponser team

Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:44 am
by Vephriel
For Tauren Paladins there was a conversation revealed between two NPCs in Thunder Bluff that explained the lore. Taurens druids rely on the moon as a source of power, seeing it as one eye of Mu'sha (their deity who is most likely the same Elune that the Night Elves worship). The conversation goes on to discuss how Mu'sha has two eyes, the other being the sun, and that if Tauren could harness the powers of the moon then they might be able to tap into the sun's power as well. Tauren Paladins are called Sunwalkers because it's a new found power from that source. A little different from other Paladin races, but that's the story behind it.

Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:45 am
by Saturo
Yah, it was my understanding that Tauren pallies are essentually "Druids of the sun".

Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:47 am
by Vephriel
For gameplay purposes Tauren Paladins function just like any other Paladin, but if we were to look at it closer story and lore wise they would probably be quite different in how they use and apply their powers.

Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:08 am
by rubybeam
heh sun druids tha make pallys am I starting to see that blizzard i going to make sun elementals

Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:09 am
by Saturo
Rubybeam, I'm a bit unsure of what you mean... Could you please clarify? :P

Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:21 am
by rubybeam
i would see the more as shaman's more than druids for the reason that if they're working for the sun there's going to be some sun dietys or something of the sun and then boom sun elementals. of ocurse they could just end up makeing yellow fire elementals if elementals do come into play which is only wishful thinking

Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:37 pm
by Anansi
I wonder if anyone is camping the name Trollolock for their Troll Warlock.

Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:45 pm
by VelkynKarma
Redith wrote:HELL YHA! BELF WARRIORS! ...Just someone PLEASE explain lore wise why Tauren can Pali up now. Seriously they are a nature focussed group. Them being Palis makes as much sence as a human becoming a druid. Oh and wargen druid way makes scence. Night elves probably tought them it since they were their sponser team
It's not that surprising either; there's tons of tauren in the Argent groups, so the following is already possible.

~VelkynKarma

Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:04 pm
by Anansi
Redith wrote:Just someone PLEASE explain lore wise why Tauren can Pali up now. Seriously they are a nature focussed group. Them being Palis makes as much sence as a human becoming a druid.
WoWWiki can!
Sunwalkers is the name of the order of tauren paladins coming with the release of the World of Warcraft: Cataclysm according to multiple posts on the official forums by Blizzard poster Kisirani[1][2] and Cataclysm Beta files.[3]

The in-game conversation between Thunder Bluff NPCs Aponi Brightmane and Tahu Sagewind suggests the tauren may be able to draw power from the sun, An'she, like the druids draw power from the moon, Mu'sha.

Due to the tauren having no history with the Holy Light, it is likely that their power comes from another source entirely, similar to night elf priests gaining their powers from Elune and troll priests gaining their powers from the Loa. Thus their in-game abilities would be similar to those of human, dwarf, draenei and blood elf paladins, even though the source of their power is different
Aponi Brightmane says: Talk to me, Tahu. Something. Anything! I'm going stir-crazy.
Tahu Sagewind laughs softly
Tahu Sagewind says: All right, Aponi. I've enough on my mind to share. Have you ever spoken to the elves of Moonglade?
Aponi Brightmane says: Not much.
Tahu Sagewind says: The elves speak of a moon goddess, did you know? They put great stock in the light given by the moon.
Aponi Brightmane says: Like Mu'sha.
Tahu Sagewind says: Just like her. The parallels I've heard are interesting. And it's no secret all druids, Shu'halo and elf alike, can call upon Mu'sha's light.
Aponi Brightmane says: Where are you going with this?
Tahu Sagewind says: I wonder. Hamuul has guided us well, and I've learned so much from. The legends say that our people were druids when time began...
Aponi Brightmane says: I hear the "but" in your voice...
Tahu Sagewind says: ...but what Hamuul teaches is what the elves know. The night elves. They put such stock in their moon goddess, as creatures of the night.
Aponi Brightmane says: Do you think his teachings are wrong?
Tahu Sagewind says: No! No, nothing like that. He is an elder for good reason, sister. Mu'sha is one of the Earthmother's eyes, and she watches over us. That isn't sinister.
Tahu Sagewind says: But we're nothing if not people who strive for balance. Our warriors fight only when there is need. Our hunters take only what the tribes require to live, and use all they can when they do. The shaman stand as guide and mediator to the elemental spirits.
Tahu Sagewind says: And while we, as druids, are guardians of nature, I wonder if we've overlooked a key aspect of balance in all things.
Aponi Brightmane says: So are you going to bring this up to the elder?
Tahu Sagewind says: No, no. No need for him to trouble about a student's idle philosophizing while he entertains a friend.
Aponi Brightmane says: I suppose so. It's not silly, though, what you said.
Tahu Sagewind says: Well, it isn't exactly a new thought, sister.


Aponi Brightmane says: I see that thoughtful frown, Tahu.
Tahu Sagewind says: Sorry, sister. It's nothing to worry about.
Aponi Brightmane says: But something is on your mind, right?
Tahu Sagewind says: I'm thinking about the front to the north. The one you're so eager to return to.
Aponi Brightmane says: What about it?
Tahu Sagewind says: I know I'm counseling patience, Aponi, but I don't like remaining here any more than you do. Times are bleak, and failing to act only makes me worry that my idle hand may have been the one to turn the tide.
Tahu Sagewind says: Still... there is balance in all things, even death. I simply hate the concept that such destruction and darkness might be necessary.
Aponi Brightmane says: There's a phrase... "It's always darkest before the dawn." The dawn will come, though, Tahu. the sun will rise. The balance will shift back to where it should be.
Aponi Brightmane smiles and gestures to the north.
Aponi Brightmane says: Even on the glacier itself, the sun manages to peek through the gloom. I have hope, Tahu. I think we'll make it through this, no matter how dire it looks.
Aponi Brightmane says: But I'd rather still be there on the front lines helping it happen rather than trying to placate myself with belief. We can't just sit around and hope it happens.
Tahu Sagewind says: I know, sister. I know. We'll return to fighting one day. For now, though, maybe it's best to spread the word to others... give them the hope you have.
Aponi Brightmane says: And through that hope, strengthen our side in the fight?
Tahu Sagewind says: That's the idea.

Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:36 pm
by Gimlion
Bah! Seeing Tahu reminds me of Bionicles, which reminds me of how awesome they were/used to be, which reminds me Lego is Discontinuing them... :cry:

Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:44 am
by cowmuflage
You know toa means hero in Maori and lego got in trouble for miss useing alot of maori words so hence why they changed alot of the names XD silly lego should of looked up the meaning of those words instead of just chooseing the "cool" sounding ones.

Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:19 am
by Saturo
Toa means toilet in Swedish.

Re: troll warlocks?

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:59 pm
by Gimlion
Regardless of their Maori fail, that was by far my favorite toy line, with Transformers and Power Ranger MegaZords falling close behind. hahaha :D