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Those aren't the same. They could have made it interesting to be in the underwater zones. Instead they just decide to REMOVE two mechanics!

Saturo wrote:Those aren't the same. They could have made it interesting to be in the underwater zones. Instead they just decide to REMOVE two mechanics!

Saturo if you keep complaining and Blizzard decides; Oh well a quest isn't epic enough and people are complaining a quest removes a mechanic. Oh well you remember Northrend? We had a quest for that removal of a mechanic too. But people bitched or it was to easy or not epic enough.

So lets do what we did with Flying in Northrend.

Lets make the players spend MONEY to get this pesky mehanic removed for their questing pleasure!

But it can't be 1k, you see how much people have amassed during questing and after buying all our gold sinks?

Hm..

Lets make it 5000 pieces of gold.

Yes..

I swear.

If it becomes another gold sink because of people complaining.

I was more interested in underwater movement actually, is it as awkward as it is now? Can we actually walk on the bottom or are we forced to bounce around with very strange depth perception and strange spatial positioning?

I would have no problem with paying 5k for it, as long as it's an account-wide effect, like CWF should have been. But that's not really my point, right now, the quest just isn't even close to what it should be. Fetch me some easily obtainable reagents, and I'll remove two mechanics for you!

Ideally, it shouldn't remove the mechanics at all, it should be some other way, since the underwater mounts means faster movement anyway. I don't want to be able to breathe underwater indefinitely, it's just stupid.

Anansi wrote:I was more interested in underwater movement actually, is it as awkward as it is now? Can we actually walk on the bottom or are we forced to bounce around with very strange depth perception and strange spatial positioning?

I did read that you can walk/run along the bottom, you just jump to go back to swimming.

Saturo wrote:I would have no problem with paying 5k for it, as long as it's an account-wide effect, like CWF should have been. But that's not really my point, right now, the quest just isn't even close to what it should be. Fetch me some easily obtainable reagents, and I'll remove two mechanics for you!

Ideally, it shouldn't remove the mechanics at all, it should be some other way, since the underwater mounts means faster movement anyway. I don't want to be able to breathe underwater indefinitely, it's just stupid.

Should be a food you have to eat, unless you are an engineer and can craft the BOP scuba gear..

Slickrock wrote:

Saturo wrote:I would have no problem with paying 5k for it, as long as it's an account-wide effect, like CWF should have been. But that's not really my point, right now, the quest just isn't even close to what it should be. Fetch me some easily obtainable reagents, and I'll remove two mechanics for you!

Ideally, it shouldn't remove the mechanics at all, it should be some other way, since the underwater mounts means faster movement anyway. I don't want to be able to breathe underwater indefinitely, it's just stupid.

Should be a food you have to eat, unless you are an engineer and can craft the BOP scuba gear.. ;)

That's close to what I was thinking they could do.

This smells of gill implants....or gillyweed. One of those. xD

Annndddd straight from a beta tester.....

oh and i found that quest
rikaku: and its only in um vashjir u get those swim buffs.
rikaku: BUT they are SO necessary
rikaku: I cant even begin to emphasize that buff's importance.
rikaku: it helps cause it really doesnt make me feel like I'm fighting underwater. which was a clunky system before.

Well, at least it's just one zone then. That's an improvement. It's obviously important to have something in the underwater zone, I just found it a bit much to remove it with just one quest.

Saturo wrote:I would have no problem with paying 5k for it, as long as it's an account-wide effect, like CWF should have been. But that's not really my point, right now, the quest just isn't even close to what it should be. Fetch me some easily obtainable reagents, and I'll remove two mechanics for you!

Lets see. We fight Elementals. We fight zombies. Dragons and triffids and space monsters from the 4th dimension. We have gods, we have demons. We have the embodiment of pure light. Pure hope. Pure goodness- we have had titans and old gods and things that in the real world would make me wet myself, cry for my mother and hide under the bed.

I have fought and slaughtered hundred of thousands of creatures for a genocidal maniac dwarf. I have murdered, assassinated. Nurtured orphans, killed for their name. I have done quests that have been the highlight of playing wow. I have done quests that have been so horrible I never wanted to do them again.

And you're saying, out of all that. Out of like 3+ of my years of playing. One quest. That has a SHAMAN. A MASTER of the elements, making an ITEM, an enchanted item to allow you to breathe, is game breaking and horrible for removing two mechanics?

Did you know there is actually manufactured water You can breathe. And that this water you can breathe is epic? It's been used to save the lives of babies? And this might be the same idea behind the quest? Breathable water!?

Ideally, it shouldn't remove the mechanics at all, it should be some other way, since the underwater mounts means faster movement anyway. I don't want to be able to breathe underwater indefinitely, it's just stupid.

We're in a game where you can tame raptors, ride dragons and kill a giant. Talking. Eye. And one item that allows you to breathe underwater and removes the penalty from swimming, is stupid and game breaking?


T_T yeah I just am not gonna bother.

Ryai wrote:T_T yeah I just am not gonna bother.

Good. This discussion is futile, as neither of us will be able to agree.

Ah! Rikaku. I haven't seen posts or anything from him since pre-Forums. =D

Ok, enough drama llamas. Back to that nifty seahorse mount!

When I saw it on the mmo-champ models list, it didn't have the armor, so maybe there will be both a 60% and a 100% mount (like everything else). I love it! I bet the horde will get like, an moray eel or something.

I WANT A STINGRAY MOUNT. Also, will take an orca mount. With armor.

Here's a bunch of things that could possibly BE mounts -

Great white sharks -> http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/ima ... /shark.jpg

Whale sharks - http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/ima ... eshark.jpg

Jellyfish (these have already been comfirmed) - http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/ima ... smount.jpg

Monstrous eels- http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/ima ... ouseel.jpg

Seahorses (sans armor, these are probably just mobs) - http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/ima ... ahorse.jpg

Thresher sharks - http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/ima ... rshark.jpg

Jangalian wrote:When I saw it on the mmo-champ models list, it didn't have the armor, so maybe there will be both a 60% and a 100% mount (like everything else). I love it! I bet the horde will get like, an moray eel or something.

D: no want Seahorse not eel. Horde has enough flying eels.

Also, will take an orca mount. With armor.

I'll take mine without armor, but yes. Gief Dolphin.

Great white sharks -> http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/ima ... /shark.jpg

Stabbing a shark. You're doing it wrong. Very. Very. Wrong.

A broom what the hell.

That looks like a broken-off harpoon, actually. Poor ol' shark.

Jangalian wrote:That looks like a broken-off harpoon, actually. Poor ol' shark.

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oh god it's Jaws it's going to be a ?? Elite that can COME ONTO BEACHES.

Veph, that's horrifying.