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Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:08 am
by Darknez
Worba: As far as I have seen there isn't a "call pet" ability. You can switch between 5 active pets on the fly, but to change the the active ones to ones in the stables, you need a stable master.
Zeilla8 : Silithid Ravager is the only tan one in live outside of AQ (Vekniss Warrior). Presumably that's still the same on the PTR.
Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:50 pm
by Tilo
I know it's not mentioned in the 4.0 patch notes but elsewhere someone mentioned of tame-pet going from 20sec down to 10sec default... so I'm wondering if this'll go in as well? Or if it's just a Cata. thing...
Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:08 pm
by Darknez
I'd assume that comes along with the talent & skill changes etc.
Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:46 pm
by Kalliope
Slivers wrote:I'm still getting up to speed on the changes as I've been busy with a sick 8-year old for the past few days ...
Although I see this as a benefit in 10-Man, I don't see it mattering a whole lot in 25-man where nearly all these "buffs" are already filled be their parent-class. Maybe a situation arises every so often, but I simply cannot see many times a pet will be called on for a buff in 25-man.
However, as mentioned, I've only scratched the surface of the information and am happy to be shown the "error of my ways"

I can't speak for anyone else, but I personally had to bring my druid to a few 25m raids in LK because we were missing one of the owl buffs. Would have saved me a lot of grief if I could have just brought Kalli with a different pet. So I'd assume that it'll depend on your guild's raid comp.
Darknez wrote:Zeilla8 : Silithid Ravager is the only tan one in live outside of AQ (Vekniss Warrior). Presumably that's still the same on the PTR.
Z meant that unless you're hell-bent on having that particular Silithid Ravager, you can tame one of the tan non-rare Silithid Ravagers after the Cataclysm hits....but that'll be later on.
Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:51 pm
by Rawr
You can mount flying mounts in vanilla now, you just can't fly

Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:56 pm
by Kalliope
So uh...
I made a lil' dwarf hunter on the PTR....and my bear has demoralizing roar at level 1. <3
Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:08 pm
by Furiku
Okay, so I've gotten into the PTR and screwed around a bit and this is what I've can say about the patch.
+Class changes are up. (Focus works really well in my opinion.)
+Stable slots are in and you don't have to pay as far as I can see. You might have to pay for the call pet slots, but I dunno.
+New talent trees are up
+Glyph system is up, haven't tried it but it sounds like it's not working yet.
+Nothing in the way of change in the land really. Okay that's a lie. I'm pretty sure Darnassus is a bit more spread out but other then that I haven't really looked around. I must have been seeing something there, my friend says Darn looks like it did before. I need new glasses. >>
+The updated graphics are not in game. Just lower your settings and the old water and lava will load.
+The new spellbook is in. Pretty nice to see.
+The lvl alert thing is in as well. The thing that says you lvl up and tells what skills you geat upon reaching that lvl.
+You can run around on your flying mount, but not actually fly.
+Tame beast is down to 10 seconds.
+The blizzard look-alike of Power Auras in, though it's slightly glitchy on my hunter I noticed...
+Existing armor is modified to reflect class changes. Don't know if it's just your characters armor or if it was all. I would assume all but what do I know.
+Your mounts all scale to your fastest speed. I.E Dawnsaber running at 100% Snowy Gryphon flying at 280% etc.
+The pet abilities are in, haven't really tried them.
+You can see Archeaology in the professions tab but can't actually use it.
+ I haven't noticed any big changes with Multi-shot yet so we might only have explosive trap for any aoe we're gonna do.
+Trap launcher is fun. Very fun. :3
There's probably more but I just can't think of 'em. I've got my hunter transfered over so if you want me to go wander around and tame things and such, just lemme know and then I'll go do it and post it here or pm you the results or something. -shrug- Oh and when word gets out that this patch is gonna go live, stick around a hunter trainer lol. Your gonna have to pick up a few skills.
Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:52 pm
by PorrasouxRex
Somebody mind checking if ZG is still around in this patch? Thanks.
Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:10 pm
by Protego
From what I've heard on MMO-Champion, Beast Mastery is "extremely Over-powered". That pets "does more damage than you". And "Kill Command is critting for 10-25k". And I'm kinda doubting if I'm even gonna try to get into the 4.0 public test realms. I've heard they're full alot.
Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:13 pm
by Kalliope
HA, I'm in! With Big Kalli!

*goes on a mad taming spree*
Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:40 pm
by Ellaran
Got into the PTR, started a lvl 1 Belf Hunter.
So far it's really awesome. Focus is so much more fun, and it regens at a nice rate so you can always fire off an Arcane Shot (Steady works great as an opener if you're low on Focus but just have to kill something lol). Leveling is FAST now that you don't have to worry about mana.
The Dragonhawk's pet ability at least works fine (8% more magic damage, makes Arcane hit a bit harder). Gonna get to 10-11 and tame some other beasts and see how their abilities work.
Seriously, it looks like it's gonna be really fun to be a Cataclysm Hunter

Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:43 pm
by Rawr
Darknez wrote:Worba: As far as I have seen there isn't a "call pet" ability. You can switch between 5 active pets on the fly, but to change the the active ones to ones in the stables, you need a stable master.
Zeilla8 : Silithid Ravager is the only tan one in live outside of AQ (Vekniss Warrior). Presumably that's still the same on the PTR.
He is saw him bouncing around earlier
Protego wrote:From what I've heard on MMO-Champion, Beast Mastery is "extremely Over-powered". That pets "does more damage than you". And "Kill Command is critting for 10-25k". And I'm kinda doubting if I'm even gonna try to get into the 4.0 public test realms. I've heard they're full alot.
My pet pulls more agro than me and will pull off tanks WITHOUT growl
BEAST MASTER IS BACK BABE!!
Side note, all ArP gems, buffs, and stats on items have changed to Crit. Agi, Stam, Haste, and Crit are the only stats on my items.
Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:23 am
by Worba
That's good to hear - but, how much active effort is involved in doing that? Do you need to track/juggle several different CD's/rotations or is this more passive/built-in? I want my BM hunters to hit as hard as my SV and MM hunters but also want them to have to work just as hard for it.

Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:49 am
by Tilo
+Tame beast is down to 10 seconds.
Ooooh easier tames for Mr Krush & Mr Beasty?

Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:54 am
by Kyonarai
Furiku wrote:
+Your mounts all scale to your fastest speed. I.E Dawnsaber running at 100% Snowy Gryphon flying at 280% etc.
OMG YES! I really dislike armored mounts! I can finally ride my ebony gryphon! Sweetness...
Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:58 am
by Anyia
Is it just because I'm playing with an incomplete download, or are add-ons really disabled in 4.0.1 on the PTR?
Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:00 am
by Bellatryx
Kyonarai wrote:Furiku wrote:
+Your mounts all scale to your fastest speed. I.E Dawnsaber running at 100% Snowy Gryphon flying at 280% etc.
OMG YES! I really dislike armored mounts! I can finally ride my ebony gryphon! Sweetness...
I too would like fast non armored mounts. This is awesome! Can't wait!
Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:00 am
by Saturo
Anyia wrote:Is it just because I'm playing with an incomplete download, or are add-ons really disabled in 4.0.1 on the PTR?
The PTR client is separate from your old client. Are you sure you have installed addons for it at all?
Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:23 pm
by Kalliope
Tilo wrote:+Tame beast is down to 10 seconds.
Ooooh easier tames for Mr Krush & Mr Beasty?

I've been looking for Krush for this reason, but sigh, he wasn't up. In fact, NONE of the SB rares were. *shakes fist*
Furiku wrote:
+Your mounts all scale to your fastest speed. I.E Dawnsaber running at 100% Snowy Gryphon flying at 280% etc.
Really? It didn't seem like it; the tooltips on my mounts still show 280%.
Re: PTR 4.0.1 Hunter changes !!!
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:57 pm
by Worba
Tilo wrote:+Tame beast is down to 10 seconds.
Ooooh easier tames for Mr Krush & Mr Beasty?

Definitely. Since they removed the BW effect from the hunter, they had to do this else people would start considering these guys to be the new crocoslime/spirit wolf.
Personally I think new (10 sec cast time) tames of The Beast should not have the special icon however, once this goes live - that would still allow people who did it "the hard way" to retain something special, no matter how cosmetic...
