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yup they have...SEAGULLS FOR THE WIN!!!! but i'm never satisfied i'm afraid...

I would MUCH rather have new families then new skins.

I think there's still a chance for kodo/clefthoof being added to rhino, and an outside chance of basilisks being added (I doubt they'd be added to crocs, they'd have their own ability). I'd still love to see pterrordax, either as their own family or in the bat family (Chiro-Pterror?) but I think that's not going to happen either.

I expect they're in the hammering out phase, too late for major additions.

I'm feeling a mix of happiness and disappointment. I love that they've added in so many new parrot models, but then I'm not really a parrot person so then I go, "Oh, wait.....I don't want one." I do like the beetles and will probably get one, so that's a plus. But then, like others have mentioned, there was a huge number of people who all wanted the same beasts to be tameable. Of those that were mentioned, none of them are tameable at the moment. That's what I'm disappointed in.

And honestly, I'd have given my proverbial left nad for a thunder lizard, but that probably won't happen.

What's kind of sad is that I look at my 25-pet grid, and even after all these new beasties in Cataclysm, I might have my stable half-filled. I was hoping for more than what we're getting. I hate to sound like an ingrate, but I just kind of had high hopes for some of these beasts we've been looking at for 6 years to finally become tameable.

Of the new families we're getting, I plan to tame one - the beetle. The foxes look dopey and I'm weirded out by primate pets. But then, I wouldn't have tamed a stag, zhevra, or hydra either. Ok, maybe I would have tamed a hydra if they didn't do that annoying glub noise all the time.

Palladiamorsdeus wrote:I would MUCH rather have new families then new skins.

But why? I keep seeing people want new pet families all the time, but no one ever gives a reason other than "I want".
Not saying it wouldn't be nice if we could tame hydras and clefthooves and so on, but why do you want them?
Just for the sake of "new"?
Variation? We've already got 3 different speccs split between around 35 different families (come Cataclysm). If we say there's 3 different ways to specc each type, that's more than 300 variations right there, without counting different skins in each family.
We certainly don't need new families. All we really need is 3 different pets; 1 for pvp, 1 for pve and 1 for solo.

So again, why new families?

(not trying to be a pedantic douche, btw. Just genuinely wondering why so many insist on new families).

Rhyela wrote:What's kind of sad is that I look at my 25-pet grid, and even after all these new beasties in Cataclysm, I might have my stable half-filled. I was hoping for more than what we're getting. I hate to sound like an ingrate, but I just kind of had high hopes for some of these beasts we've been looking at for 6 years to finally become tameable.

This. Rhyela's whole post actually but mainly this. Part of the reason I am keeping Loque (so far) is purely that he's 'clean' looking. New, not all boxy like the old world cat models. Some I love but keep prowl on so they're not as visible to me because I dislike the old look so much.

I would rather have the old models redone before adding new blocky rebadges of the same old thing.

Yes I am more then thankful for the pet gift blizzard has given but (as said numerous times) it's extremely disappointing that what was truly pined for was seemingly dismissed just as quickly as it'd been uttered. I doubt I'll come anywhere close to filling my stable slots. The max I'll probably is 10 pets simply for the sheer disappointment that nothing I truly wanted (except Gezz) has been made into a pet. Although the seagull will still be Badass.

I really wish Blizz had truly listened to the requests or revamped the old to look new. I'm not completely unhappy but not full pleased.

Sorry for the double post but:

Curumor wrote: But why? I keep seeing people want new pet families all the time, but no one ever gives a reason other than "I want".
Not saying it wouldn't be nice if we could tame hydras and clefthooves and so on, but why do you want them?
Just for the sake of "new"?

For me after having fought those beasts I loved their abilities which would make them a good combat pet IF they'd kept them upon taming. Don't get me wrong the new - cool factor is part of it but in their wild states they have great functionality also.

For me Curumor - my main reason for wanting a thunder lizard is because my favorite dinosaur is the stegosaurus. Yes, my nerd just flopped out a little, let me tuck it back in.......there. But in all seriousness, yes, I want something new, not just re-skins of families I don't use anyway. And to me it seems odd to not put them in, because many of the existing non-tameable beasts out there use skills in combat that could easily translate to a family skill. Basilisk - crystal gaze. Stag - shadow hoof. Thunder lizard - lizard lightning (chain lightning), and etc.

I think I'm maybe just one of the weird people out there that doesn't like any of the families that are receiving new skins. I don't use crabs, crocolisks, primates, foxes (tried one in beta, abandoned it pretty quickly thereafter), wasps, birds of prey, etc. So maybe that's why I feel like there's not a whole lot out there for me. It's all good though, at the very least I'll have enough stable slots to re-tame the critters I miss.

Hopefully, I'm keeping fingers and toes double-crossed for this one, that black panther mount model out in Swamp of Sorrows will become tameable. It's the only cat model I like, and in my favorite skin color. I would be happy as a lark if I could get that. And I would love for them to give me a reason I can't tame it. It's a cat, for crying out loud! If they're making those odd green tigers tameable, at least give me my pretty panther.

I love different abilities. I love having a wider array of ways to fight. I like that this family does this, and that family does that. I'd rather have a new pet family that can do things either differently then another family, or in a different way. Having new skins just doesn't do much for me. Most of the new skins just don't impress me much, if at all.

Palladiamorsdeus wrote:I love different abilities. I love having a wider array of ways to fight. I like that this family does this, and that family does that. I'd rather have a new pet family that can do things either differently then another family, or in a different way.

^This is a large reason for me. I have also been obsessed with the idea of a tameable Stag and Hydra since I started playing WoW, so those two particular species are ones I'd love to see implemented due to that.

I'm not entirely sure where people are getting the idea that "Blizzard didn't listen to hunters." They did listen. They listened to what people have been telling them since Vanilla. not just in that one thread alone. Like that green and orange tiger...how many times has a thread come up in which someone expressed disappointment it isn't tamable? Quite often, as I recall. And Blizzard listened. And now it will be tamable. Some posters in that "brainstorm" thread (like me) requested that the BC families be given more skins, because they were awesome pets that seemed ridiculously limited in variety. And oh look! More warp stalker colors in Vasjh'ir.

You really have to look at what would honestly be feasible. For all that we may have wanted certain things...they'd have had to be scaled, tested, given a family ability, debugged, debugged again, beta'ed, debugged likely a third time...really, for certain families, it just wasn't going to happen. Clefthooves alone would have been a scaling nightmare. And why would you want a pet that's so big and ungainly it blocks your raid-mates views, even if it does have a welcome buff?

Could we have gotten one more brand-new tamable family? Yeah, perhaps we could have. But looking at the hunter class as a whole - not just pets - I'm pretty blown away with what we did get. We are more than the sum of our pets, and we got some nice goodies beyond the pets. I'm not sure Blizzard could have honestly devoted more time to hunters and their pets without shortchanging some other class that also needed (and equally deserved) attention.

We could always have gotten more. But I'm pretty happy with what we did get.

I think it's too late for 'em now. To my memory, Blizzard has never made a "last minute", last-few-1-or-2-beta-"builds" Tameable pet in all of the previous expansions. I would've have liked to have seen more Exotic pets/Exotic pet species be made available. But I do give alot of credit to Blizzard making alot of new things Tameable. The re-designed pet abilities impress me too. But they didn't really listen to "popular" suggestions, in the Hunter pet suggestion official post thing. I don't think they did. I am disappointed there aren't more "shiny" Exotic pets in Cataclysm. Given the choice, I would've chosen brand-new Exotic Tameable species, over just new Tameables.

tbh i myself am very dissapointed with whats turned up i like rare and unique pets such as rarespawns with unique skins and i have had them all over my hunters life but wooing us with a few pritty pets isnt going to do it for me and foxes monkeys im sorry are just not exactly a cool pet in my book considering we have wolves and gorillas already but we have not seen any exotic only pets im just hoping they are saving those for thunderlizards kodos and hydras. Basalisks and Dimenatron or w/e they are called shoul come under the crocalisk family imo. Same for the terridactals in ungro should come under birds of pray and shouvle tusks as bore.

Stags and that sort as pe im sorry but they just sound really lame and lets face it after they have been shrunk to hunter pet size they would look silly. Not to mention the only attack they do is the kick they do no claws or anything just horns and lets face it in the wild stags are just pray for other animals.

Tbh what i would like to see is all pets have the same 3 talent trees and we can choose to make it a tank dps pvp so we have more freedom to choose what to use. I dont see why spirit beasts cant tank considering one is a bear. One of the bosses in AQ is a wasp so why cant it tank.

Tahlian wrote:I'm not entirely sure where people are getting the idea that "Blizzard didn't listen to hunters." They did listen. They listened to what people have been telling them since Vanilla. not just in that one thread alone. Like that green and orange tiger...how many times has a thread come up in which someone expressed disappointment it isn't tamable? Quite often, as I recall. And Blizzard listened. And now it will be tamable. Some posters in that "brainstorm" thread (like me) requested that the BC families be given more skins, because they were awesome pets that seemed ridiculously limited in variety. And oh look! More warp stalker colors in Vasjh'ir.

You really have to look at what would honestly be feasible. For all that we may have wanted certain things...they'd have had to be scaled, tested, given a family ability, debugged, debugged again, beta'ed, debugged likely a third time...really, for certain families, it just wasn't going to happen. Clefthooves alone would have been a scaling nightmare. And why would you want a pet that's so big and ungainly it blocks your raid-mates views, even if it does have a welcome buff?

Could we have gotten one more brand-new tamable family? Yeah, perhaps we could have. But looking at the hunter class as a whole - not just pets - I'm pretty blown away with what we did get. We are more than the sum of our pets, and we got some nice goodies beyond the pets. I'm not sure Blizzard could have honestly devoted more time to hunters and their pets without shortchanging some other class that also needed (and equally deserved) attention.

We could always have gotten more. But I'm pretty happy with what we did get.

Sure, just poop on my pity-party.

I actually took a screen shot of one of the Ring of Law waves in BRD of some thunder lizards. They were the PERFECT size to be a hunter pet. It was dead, which kind of sullied the pic a little, but I can dream, can't I?

I know what you're saying and in a way I agree. I suppose I'm just a little sad that these creatures have been desired by tons of hunters over the years, yet they still remain just out of reach. One of these days, I'd love to see some of them implemented. We get monkeys that throw "something", foxes that have a curious ability called "tailspin", yet the beasties we've been pining for all along still aren't tameable. I'm honestly not asking for something never-before-seen that'd have to be designed from the ground up; I just want the ones that have been there all along.

Maybe someday.

Even if they do make new pet familys i'd rather see them as normal pets than exotics so every one can injoy them.

We got new COLORS, we did not get any ((Or many, if you count the beetle)) of the families that were asked for. They gave the easiest thing they could, and then made pet families that had very little to do with what was requested. I am not saying they HAVE to, but they at the very least did dangle a very tasty carrot in front of hunters last Blizzcon. To not at LEAST deliver on that carrot is disappointing, to say the least. Also, they added and tested in several other pet families, so that doesn't really hold water either. It was things they already did, just not with the popular suggestions. The pre-existing families. They just added in several new ones that had nothing or little to do with anything asked.

It's just disappointed. Just because you are okay with it, doesn't mean that everyone else is or should be.

I get the "favourite beast" thing (mine's Gryphon and I really want one as a pet!) and the utility aspect, since I like that too. But it's still just "new and shiny" in different words. And in my opinion, that's just not a very good argument for new pets. Remember that not all hunters care that much about pets, and there are other requests to accommodate. We got Camo, which has been very much wanted. Trap launchers have also been in high demand. No more mana. And several other things hunters have asked for.
In a broad sense, there are 3 different types of hunters (PvE, PvP and ehm.. Petopians? ) who have different wants (and sometimes demands).

Personally, I think a large part of why there are so few of the requested beasts made tamable is that if they did one, they'd "have to" do the rest too. Which adds up to quite a lot.

On the plus (?) side, Cata has apparently been postponed till December, so there's still 2 months left.

Palladiamorsdeus wrote: I am not saying they HAVE to, but they at the very least did dangle a very tasty carrot in front of hunters last Blizzcon. To not at LEAST deliver on that carrot is disappointing, to say the least. Also, they added and tested in several other pet families, so that doesn't really hold water either. It was things they already did, just not with the popular suggestions. The pre-existing families. They just added in several new ones that had nothing or little to do with anything asked.

It's just disappointed. Just because you are okay with it, doesn't mean that everyone else is or should be.

That's a good point. If they did hint or mention pets/stuff they were gonna put in, it's pretty damn annoying if they don't.

While we haven't gotten as many new pet families as some might have hoped for, I have to say I'm definitely feeling the hunter love from Blizzard. 25 pets, the revamped pet abilities (bloodlust!), heaps faster tame, more skins, a few new models, not to mention the entire focus change-over!

I also reckon one thing we should keep in mind is that new expansions aren't the only time biggish changes are introduced into the game. There will be a few major content patches during the life of Cata, and any one of them could very well include a second pet pass!

Palladiamorsdeus wrote:It isn't a matter of Blizzard answering ALL of our requests. And actually for that matter, I don't see why it would be bad for them to at LEAST do some of them.

Silithid beetles? Eh, I could see that.

And silithid wasps.

And helboars.

And with beetles not only did they make them tamable, after initially lumping them into cunning they listened once again and moved them into tenacity.

Soriid and haarka became tamable once more.

Lots of stuff.

I remember not too long ago these same boards were buzzing with Blizzard <3.

Worba wrote:

Palladiamorsdeus wrote:It isn't a matter of Blizzard answering ALL of our requests. And actually for that matter, I don't see why it would be bad for them to at LEAST do some of them.

Silithid beetles? Eh, I could see that.

And silithid wasps.

And helboars.

And with beetles not only did they make them tamable, after initially lumping them into cunning they listened once again and moved them into tenacity.

Soriid and haarka became tamable once more.

Lots of stuff.

I remember not too long ago these same boards were buzzing with Blizzard <3.

The buzz of having 25 stable slots has worn off and some people are back to being unhappy.

It's not enough that we can tame up to 25 pets.
It's not enough that we have all sorts of new skins available. Hellboars, parrots, seagulls, brainbugs, Silithid wasps, Winna's kitten....
It's not enough that we got new families. Foxes were immediately desired by the playerbase and were almost just as quickly made tameable.
It's not enough that we're not locked into having One Pet.

None of it is Good Enough. Never mind that Blizzard needs to leave some options open for future expansions, since They Didn't Listen...after all, we didn't get everything.

People are entitled to have this opinion, but I personally don't find it very productive.