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Re: Early BM/pet dps testing

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:04 am
by Lisaara
Raydex-of-the-dawn wrote:So SV is the new MM, BM is the new SV, and MM is the new BM? Cool! This is great - I adore the pets of BM, but I love the slightly more chaotic gameplay for SV.
Ew. *hisses* I hate SV. I pray to the gods thats not the top dps spec and never will be. ><;

Re: Early BM/pet dps testing

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:08 am
by bluddy
my ranking. Bm,Surv,MM yesi like playing in surv.

Re: Early BM/pet dps testing

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:09 am
by Fayos
Taluwen wrote:
Raydex-of-the-dawn wrote:So SV is the new MM, BM is the new SV, and MM is the new BM? Cool! This is great - I adore the pets of BM, but I love the slightly more chaotic gameplay for SV.
Ew. *hisses* I hate SV. I pray to the gods thats not the top dps spec and never will be. ><;
Yeah, my thoughts exactly.

Alltho, in internal Blizzard builds right now, SV is higher than BM, and MM is still waaaay down the list.

Re: Early BM/pet dps testing

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:13 am
by Saturo
Fayos wrote:
Taluwen wrote:
Raydex-of-the-dawn wrote:So SV is the new MM, BM is the new SV, and MM is the new BM? Cool! This is great - I adore the pets of BM, but I love the slightly more chaotic gameplay for SV.
Ew. *hisses* I hate SV. I pray to the gods thats not the top dps spec and never will be. ><;
Yeah, my thoughts exactly.

Alltho, in internal Blizzard builds right now, SV is higher than BM, and MM is still waaaay down the list.
bluddy wrote:my ranking. Bm,Surv,MM yesi like playing in surv.
MM > BM > SV.

MM is FAR above the other two tough. It's more like MM > Unspecced > BM > SV.

Re: Early BM/pet dps testing

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:12 pm
by Slickrock2
Saturo wrote:
Fayos wrote: SV is the new MM, BM is the new SV, and MM is the new BM? Cool! This is great - I adore the pets of BM, but I love the slightly more chaotic gameplay for SV

Ew. *hisses* I hate SV. I pray to the gods thats not the top dps spec and never will be. ><

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.

Alltho, in internal Blizzard builds right now, SV is higher than BM, and MM is still waaaay down the list.
bluddy wrote:my ranking. Bm,Surv,MM yesi like playing in surv.
MM > BM > SV.

MM is FAR above the other two tough. It's more like MM > Unspecced > BM > SV.
So... According to Saturo, any BM should be quitting now because our damage is so low?
(and SV too?)

If we are worse than unspecced, that's the only choice. MMers rejoice, the BMers will be gone soon.

Re: Early BM/pet dps testing

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:06 pm
by zedxrgal
This will create a problem for any one (like me) who's solely BM. After all 98% of my pets are exotics. I think maybe even more. So if it really ends up being this way then that will make my exotics completely useless. :(

Re: Early BM/pet dps testing

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:42 pm
by Kalliope
Saturo was posting her preferences.

Re: Early BM/pet dps testing

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:02 pm
by Saturo
Slickrock2 wrote:
Saturo wrote:
Fayos wrote: SV is the new MM, BM is the new SV, and MM is the new BM? Cool! This is great - I adore the pets of BM, but I love the slightly more chaotic gameplay for SV

Ew. *hisses* I hate SV. I pray to the gods thats not the top dps spec and never will be. ><

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.

Alltho, in internal Blizzard builds right now, SV is higher than BM, and MM is still waaaay down the list.
bluddy wrote:my ranking. Bm,Surv,MM yesi like playing in surv.
MM > BM > SV.

MM is FAR above the other two tough. It's more like MM > Unspecced > BM > SV.
So... According to Saturo, any BM should be quitting now because our damage is so low?
(and SV too?)

If we are worse than unspecced, that's the only choice. MMers rejoice, the BMers will be gone soon.
Kalliope wrote:Saturo was posting her preferences.
What Kalli said. Also, I wouldn't want BMers gone, I merely said that I hate it's playstyle. I prefer MM, keeping track of CDs, having a somewhat stable rotation and so forth.

Re: Early BM/pet dps testing

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:28 pm
by Doth777
Updated initial post with Raptor. Also, Cats should be considered the same as Spirit Beasts damage-wise, as both provide the same buff and the 'exotic' ability of Spirit Beasts does not affect damage.

I'll try to do Wind Serpent next, I expect it to be a pretty good one as well, especially for Survival hunters.

Re: Early BM/pet dps testing

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:49 pm
by Slickrock2
Ok, that makes more sense... ;)

But as I've said, I wouldn't mind a MM cannon spec either. 8-) (ducks...)

Good to hear about the pet dps balances...

Re: Early BM/pet dps testing

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:20 pm
by Worba
I like all 3 but have to say I find MM the most interesting, so far - SV also has plenty of stuff to do, but it doesn't seem to gel as well as it does with MM... for me at least it's been more of something hunters can take to feel "shooty-without-being-MM"...

Re: Early BM/pet dps testing

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:25 pm
by Doth777
Well, the pet vanishing bug has returned as of Monday's "tool patch". Lost several pets, including the Raptor, Cat, Shale Spider, a Fox, and 1-2 more I believe. Oddly enough, the most recently tamed pet, the Wind Serpent, survived. I'll try to lvl the WS up and test it, but that sort of depends on Blizz's server stability I guess.

They really need to fix this bug before pushing 4.0.1, it's been ongoing for over a month.

Re: Early BM/pet dps testing

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:35 pm
by Kalliope
Doth777 wrote:Well, the pet vanishing bug has returned as of Monday's "tool patch". Lost several pets, including the Raptor, Cat, Shale Spider, a Fox, and 1-2 more I believe. Oddly enough, the most recently tamed pet, the Wind Serpent, survived. I'll try to lvl the WS up and test it, but that sort of depends on Blizz's server stability I guess.

They really need to fix this bug before pushing 4.0.1, it's been ongoing for over a month.
Confirmed; I lost pets on the PTR as well.

Re: Early BM/pet dps testing

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:44 pm
by SgtMakkie
All my pets got transferred with no problems and my corehound the beast still has his ??…
I haven't had chance to get any decent tome to get used to the rotation to say spa is better or worse. From initial feeling, it seems rushed ( use of focus ) that is.

Re: Early BM/pet dps testing

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:55 pm
by Vephriel
SgtMakkie wrote:All my pets got transferred with no problems and my corehound the beast still has his ??…
Hmm, I just went to UBRS in Beta to double-check on The Beast, and he is still labelled as a level 60 with no Boss tags.

Re: Early BM/pet dps testing

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:12 pm
by zedxrgal
On the PTR my Beast still has his ?? Boss title also. Odd. Was thinking he'd have lost it by now.

Re: Early BM/pet dps testing

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:13 pm
by Vephriel
The PTR hasn't implemented the big changes, it's only for the talent and resource additions, nothing new pet-wise.