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Re: Saronite Bomb "glitch" fixed on lich king fight

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:55 pm
by VelkynKarma
Well...it seems a bit harsh still, to ban for 72 hours. And it kinda sucks that another guild got to it first. I mean, if the fight wasn't beta-tested...

Though I'm a bit shocked at the reactions on the Ensidia site. Some of them are just taking it WAY over the top with the complaining and the blogs, and the responses are over the top too. It's just a game guys. Yeah, Blizz should get their act together, and yeah, maybe Ensidia took advantage of a glitch. But geez, people, get over it. It is just a game.

~VelkynKarma

Re: Saronite Bomb "glitch" fixed on lich king fight

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:00 am
by Aleu
VelkynKarma wrote:Well...it seems a bit harsh still, to ban for 72 hours. And it kinda sucks that another guild got to it first. I mean, if the fight wasn't beta-tested...

Though I'm a bit shocked at the reactions on the Ensidia site. Some of them are just taking it WAY over the top with the complaining and the blogs, and the responses are over the top too. It's just a game guys. Yeah, Blizz should get their act together, and yeah, maybe Ensidia took advantage of a glitch. But geez, people, get over it. It is just a game.

~VelkynKarma
This. While I agree the ban was over the top there, it is just a game. It's not the end of the world because they lost the world first kill... Then again a lot of those raiding guilds take it seriously. Thus why I no longer hardcore raid anymore. >.<

Re: Saronite Bomb "glitch" fixed on lich king fight

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:13 am
by Sarayana
Outdps has a post about it, where he started out in Ensidia's favour but seems to be swayed by the commenters...

I particularly find this to be a really valid argument:
It is easy to hear Ensidia’s side, especially muqq’s angry response, and judge that Blizzard did something wrong.

However, remember that we do not have the entire picture. I seriously doubt Blizzard decided to ban one of the most famous guilds in the world as an afterthought. It is quite possible Ensidia are not as innocent as they claim to be.

Blizzard makes mistakes. Maybe the Ensidia ban was a mistake… But maybe Blizzard has enough evidence to warrant such a move. Although muqq has several viable points in his post, it is quite possible that Ensidia knowingly cheated.
I really don't know, I guess the GMs were watching the fights intently, and there's rumours going around that the fraps is being edited for some RWs about "keep doing what you just did!" and such. It's true, we really don't have the whole picture (and Ensidia has been known to use... "questionable" strats before). *retracts her initial statement about Blizzard's decision*

Re: Saronite Bomb "glitch" fixed on lich king fight

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:17 am
by Saturo
Regardless, stripping them of their achievs and such is'nt the right way to go. Blizzard is making it out that the Players are doing wrong, when in reality they released the encounter bugged. They could easily have checked this before, IMO.

Re: Saronite Bomb "glitch" fixed on lich king fight

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:28 pm
by Adam-Savage
Saturo wrote:Regardless, stripping them of their achievs and such is'nt the right way to go. Blizzard is making it out that the Players are doing wrong, when in reality they released the encounter bugged. They could easily have checked this before, IMO.
Yah but at the same time they can't fix or know of every little bug there is to the fight when then let it go live.

Re: Saronite Bomb "glitch" fixed on lich king fight

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:40 pm
by Saturo
But still, the bombs are an important part of Rogue rotations. It's not incredibly obscure.