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Lack of unity between the Horde leaders is my guess.

Kalliope wrote:Lack of unity between the Horde leaders is my guess.

I agree about the alliance...just wish Varian didnt rip my clothes off me.....peeping tom. >-> Didnt even realize it til I was in a random. XD The tank kept dying and i made a funny comment and he like "Uh...Lisaara....you're half naked...." and I checked and sure enough....I was. XD

I actually found out when a guy came up to me and role-played finding me half-naked in front of the king. He was shocked at my disrespect. I tried to explain that I had been on a mission and that the shoddy robes the cultists gave me had torn off. It was a fun bit of pick-up RP.

(And I am annoyed about Sylvanas not being there. I adore her.)

Mania wrote:I actually found out when a guy came up to me and role-played finding me half-naked in front of the king. He was shocked at my disrespect. I tried to explain that I had been on a mission and that the shoddy robes the cultists gave me had torn off. It was a fun bit of pick-up RP.

(And I am annoyed about Sylvanas not being there. I adore her.)

My boyfriend and I roleplayed it out on Jetfyre and Kaless. Jet was like "Oh my....." and Kaless just raised a brow and laughed, saying "So you really wanna make sure he believes you, eh?"
It was humorous.

There's a lot of disunity within the Horde. While you may like Sylvannis, she's not exactly doing anything for the Horde, but rather only thinking of herself and the Forsaken.

I told you she was busy washing her hair!

No, she wants to wash her hair but the blood elves keep hogging the shower.

I'm enjoying the event. :3 And I do wish there was a bit more unity between the Horde. Lorthemar is getting blatantly ignored and he's my favourite after Thrall (I do like Garrosh as well, I just really wish my expectations will be met in the future though, and Thrall will return).

You'd think Cairne would have been given something as well, they're about to kill him off, the least they could have done is put him in Thrall's meeting. He would surely have a few things to say about whats coming you'd think.

Saturo wrote:All the bullshit about Garrosh is pissing me off. He ain't a hero, he's a jerk.

/ sigh I may sound psychotic for this but...I don't think Garrosh is such a bad guy. *proceeds to wash mouth out with soap* Okay going back way back in BC, we know that Garrosh was a bit or a crybaby and - moaped and groaned - and it was up to us heros' to make him feel better. We did and then he turned into a clone of his dad in Northrend with poor old Saurfang there to deal with him. We don't technically know what happened and from recent events [You are dismissed! Questline] we have seen that he may have actually learned something from the wise warrior. And he never wanted to be warchief he was rather like forced into the position by Thrall - even though he wanted to do something different - and has otherwise been making decisions that he thinks are the right ones. When I say some of these decisions may be not the right ones I mean quite a few of them are but if you look at it this way Garrosh isn't that bad of a guy. *washes mouth out for good measure.*

Phantomwolf wrote:

Saturo wrote:All the bullshit about Garrosh is pissing me off. He ain't a hero, he's a jerk.

/ sigh I may sound psychotic for this but...I don't think Garrosh is such a bad guy. *proceeds to wash mouth out with soap* Okay going back way back in BC, we know that Garrosh was a bit or a crybaby and - moaped and groaned - and it was up to us heros' to make him feel better. We did and then he turned into a clone of his dad in Northrend with poor old Saurfang there to deal with him. We don't technically know what happened and from recent events [You are dismissed! Questline] we have seen that he may have actually learned something from the wise warrior. And he never wanted to be warchief he was rather like forced into the position by Thrall - even though he wanted to do something different - and has otherwise been making decisions that he thinks are the right ones. When I say some of these decisions may be not the right ones I mean quite a few of them are but if you look at it this way Garrosh isn't that bad of a guy. *washes mouth out for good measure.*

You said it best. :3

At the risk of making an on topic post...

Taluwen wrote:I imagine for hunters, druids, and shamans -- who are intune with the earth -- this is hard to do. Not hard as in they're difficult but hard on their hearts as disguising themselves and killing elementals goes against everything they stand for.

I've never considered hunters and druids in tune with the elemental plane, exactly. It seems that the natural world is kind of split up between the three classes. Hunters are decidedly all about the animals, while druids seem to be focused on healing and damage spells that are almost... plant like... with a dash of animal kinship thrown in. The Shaman does deal with the elements, so maybe they'd have an issue with it. Assuming they aren't interested in maintaining some sort of elemental balance.

Mm hmm, I don't see Hunters and Druids so much with the elemental plane either. That seems very much the Shaman niche of things, where as plantlife and nature to me are Druids and animals for Hunters, as Mr. Perfect said.

Of course but just because all three are nature in general, it still seems heartbreaking. Shamans would be more heartbroken than a hunter or druid but I think the other two would still feel pain to have to destroy something apart of the natural world.

I don't see hunters being hurt as much as druids would be when it comes to killing natural things I mean half the class is based on killing animals. Being a hunter is not just about tameing beasties and stuff or we would be called tamers or something.

Yesh, Hunters are more about survival, which sometimes entails killing living things and possibly harming the land (building campfires, cutting down trees or branches for shelter, etc). They have a respect for the land I think, but are not opposed to using it when situation requires. Something like that.

I suppose thats true, pending on the hunter. MM and SV hunter wouldn't really care too much but I've always felt a BM hunter would care quite a bit more.

I don't think they would care that much more. I mean its not like being a BM would bring you closer to nature it's more about well being a master of beasts a tamer of them if you will like to think of it that way someone who spends their time trying to well master beasts to do their will. I don't think they would care about elementals anymore than a MM or SV hunter would. I mean theres no reason for them to like them anymore.

cowmuflage wrote:I don't think they would care that much more. I mean its not like being a BM would bring you closer to nature it's more about well being a master of beasts a tamer of them if you will like to think of it that way someone who spends their time trying to well master beasts to do their will. I don't think they would care about elementals anymore than a MM or SV hunter would. I mean theres no reason for them to like them anymore.

Personally, being a BM is much more than being a circus tamer. A mastery of beasts means being one with them, knowing their instincts as they do, feeling as they do, and bonding with them like family. It's not about having beasts be minions. They're family....friends....equals.

So in a sense, if the creatures are fearful, feeling something is going on and are uneasy about it, the hunter will understand this and try to find out the source of their companions fears.

That still would not make a BM feel sad about killing elementals tho.

Vephriel wrote:Mm hmm, I don't see Hunters and Druids so much with the elemental plane either. That seems very much the Shaman niche of things, where as plantlife and nature to me are Druids and animals for Hunters, as Mr. Perfect said.

Yes ^ Probably just from personal preference but I kind of associate druids with Shinto-ish animism... which gets passed along to hunters as well, who I see as young druids who are too distracted by all the pew pew gunz and the cute and fuzzy forest friends to focus on the Deeper Mysteries that occupy their elders... (and I'm very much with the hunters, having many of those and only 1 lvl 1 druid who I won't be playing till cata)

Whereas shaman do seem more tuned into the raging primal energies beneath/behind natural events.